User:Ultimate Toad/SSBU Missing stages

While I believe having a wide variety of characters is one of the most important aspects of Smash, I also believe stages are just as inportant, and in my opinion even more so. As you know there are only 15 stages from past Smash games that did not return in Ultimate. Whether these stages are gone for good or will return as future DLC is unknown, so I made a list showing all of the missing stages while making a brief summary about the likelyhood of the stages returning as DLC, and also a short section for why I want or don't want those stages back.

Note: Because Flat Zone 1 and Flat Zone 2 are practically merged into Flat Zone X those 2 stages are excluded from this list. Mushroomy Kingdom 1-2 and B&W Dream Land GB will also be excluded due to being alternate stage layouts.

Super Smash Bros. 64

Planet Zebes

Planet Zebes
Game	Super Smash Bros. 64
Possible?	Neutral

Resons for inclusion

This is one of 2 stages from 64 to not return in Ultimate

Reasons for exclusion

The stage mechanic is identical to Brinstar and so might not make it in due to redundancy.

My opinion

This stage looks cool (mostly the background) and I prefer it over Brinstar, it was one of my favorites in 64. I would like to see this stage back even though it's similar to Brinstar, mainly due to aesthetics.

• Do I want this stage back?: Yes

Sector Z

Sector Z
Game	Super Smash Bros. 64
Possible?	Neutral

Reasons for inclusion

Same as Planet Zebes

Reasons for exclusion

Once again, same: Too similar to Corneria.

My opinion

Not much to say besides the background being cool. IfI were to choose between this and Corneria, I would've rather had this stage since Corneria was already in Brawl and for 3DS. The one problem I have with this stage is that it's too big. If it were the same size as Corneria then it would be better. Either way I like this stage a lot so...

• Do I want this stage back?: Yes

Super Smash Bros. Melee

Icicle Mountain

Icicle Mountain
Game	Super Smash Bros. Melee
Possible?	No

Reasons for inclusion

This is the only Ice Climber stage to not return in Ultimate.

Reasons for exclusion

Then again there are only 2 IC stages, and the other one is much better.

Generally an unpopular stage.

Verticle auto-scroll stages are gone from Ultimate

My opinion

This is one of those stages that I like in silly casual matches where I exploit the AI and play survival tests. But still this stahe is really annoying and not a good stage to fight on since the scrolling speed is unpredictable, and in general the layout makes it difficult to score a KO.

• Do I want this stage back?: No.

Mushroom Kingdom

Mushroom Kingdom
Game	Super Smash Bros. Melee
Possible?	Neutral (leaning towards likely

Reasons for inclusion

Despite being similar to 64's Mushroom Kingdom, this stage has a different layout and mechanic: breakable blocks containing items

Reasons for exclusion

Even though it has the differences mentioned above, it's still almost identical and still might be redundant.

My opinion

Eh, I like this stage, but 64's is better in both layout and mechanics. The blocks make it difficult to KO due to how they are placed and generally there's nothing that interesting in this version compared to 64: 64 had funtioning pipes, POW blocks, and Piranha Plant hazards. Melee? Well you have blocks, some blocks, and more blocks... But what is fun is when the AI suddenly does nothing (as I wrote in the AI flaws page in Melee) then I also do nothing until they start moving again.

• Do I want this stage back?: Neutral

Mute City

Mute City
Game	Super Smash Bros. Melee
Possible?	Yes

Reasons for inclusion

Despite being similar to Port Town Aero Drive, this stage still looks much different and would still be unique

This is the only F-Zero stage That is not in Ultimate

Reasons for exclusion

Too similar to Port Town Aero Drive

My opinion

I like this stage better than Port Town. Well once again it's all mostly aesthetic. One difference is the cars have set knockback unlike in Port Town.

• Do I want this stage back?: Yes

Poke Floats

Mushroom Kingdom
Game	Super Smash Bros. Melee
Possible?	Yes

Reasons for inclusion

LEGALIZE POKE FLOATSThis stage is surprisingally a popular pick for Melee stages

This is the only Pokemon stage missing from Ultimate

There's nothing redundant about this stage. The fact that Pokémon Stadium and it's clone made it in I don't see why not

Reasons for exclusion

Doesn't really represent the Pokemon universe as well anymore.

My opinion

I nicknamed this stage "Self-Destruction Floats". I loved this stage in Melee and am kinda disappointed it didn't return. What kinda bugs me is the reasons people give for why this stage didn't return.

• Squirtle: This is a weak argument. If Squirtle being playable is the reason this stage is deconfirmed, then 75m, Port Town and Duck Hunt shouldn't have made it in either.
• Stage morph: This is an even weaker argument. Basically they say because it's an auto-scroll there is no static platform to start on when the stage transforms. So... what about Rainbow Cruise? Stage morph seems to totally not work perfectly fine there so there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY we can't just use the Squirtle float...

Well anyway this stage is a good auto-scroll unlike Icicle Mountain: it's still playable and possible to fight on. Once again the AI also makes this stage fun because they are awful at it. (I seriously can't believe this crazy stage was once legal...)

• Do I want this stage back?: Yes

Super Smash Bros. Brawl

Rumble Falls

Rumble Falls
Game	Super Smash Bros. Melee
Possible?	No

Reasons for inclusion

It uhh... looks nice?

Reasons for exclusion

Verticle auto-scroll stages are gone from Ultimate

Unpopular stage

I HATE THIS STAGE

My opinion

I absolutely DESPISE this stage. At least Icicle Mountain was fun to some extent (but still really annoying) but this stage is basically Icicle Mountain with all the fun stuff taken out and replaced with infuriating stuff: the layout is much more complex and crowded, at least there's a warning for when the stage will speed up but the layout again makes it hard to platform, the OHKO spikes are self-explanatory, oh did I mention the OHKO spikes? Well you can clearly this is my least favorite stage in the series.

• Do I want this stage back?: ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!

Pictochat

Pictochat
Game	Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Possible?	Neutral

Reasons for inclusion

Transformations are different from Pictochat 2

Reasons for exclusion

Unfortunately it's still not much different from 2

My opinion

This stage is alright. Well there's not much I csn say about this stage... it doesn't matter if this stage returns or not.

• Do I want this stage back?: Neutral

Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS

Rainbow Road

Rainbow Road
Game	Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS
Possible?	Yes

Reasons for inclusion

There's nothing redundant about this stage at all

Rainbow Road is an iconic track in Mario Kart

Reasons for exclusion

If we get a Rainbow Road stage it'll most likely be Mario Kart 8's version, even though that version kinda sucks.

My opinion

Alright this is by far the stage I'm most disappointed to see left out in Ultimate, this stage would've looked so nice with the new graphics and there's nothing redundant about this stage, yet they decide to again just bring back Mario Circuit and it's Brawl clone. I've been wanting a Rainbow Road stage since Brawl but the 3DS version is the only game to have one. If this doesn't return I'd still want to see any Rainbow Road stage from any game, my picks would be the original Mario Kart 64's or Double Dash's.

• Do I want this stage back?: Yes

Pac-Maze

Pac-Maze
Game	Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS
Possible?	Yes