User talk:Myth

SW:SOCK

You can't intentionally have two accounts. Scr7(talk · contribs) 17:39, 16 December 2013 (EST)

Tier discussion

You can use my page to discuss my tier list on the talk page. --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 13:11, 6 January 2014 (EST)

Normally I don't bother commenting on user tier lists, but since you asked for it and I'm doing nothing at the moment:

The big thing I noticed right away is that your tier lists are horribly biased, with all the characters you play ranked much higher than they should be. The biggest offender being Kirby; you have him ranked as top tier and 4th best character in Brawl, this is just blatantly wrong. Kirby is a good character in Brawl, but he's only a solid middle tier character, too many other characters are simply better for him to be anywhere near high tier, much less as the 4th best character in top tier. Your forward smash and Stone spam may work really well against your friends, but it isn't working at all on anyone remotely competent. Kirby additionally is really poor at breaking through opposing camping, while not being a particularly noteworthy camper himself, and in Brawl an inability to break through camping or camp yourself is a really huge detriment. In Melee, Kirby is just an atrociously designed character in every way that is terrible at everything, who is the worst character in the entire Smash series. He has no business being ranked above even Pichu, much less ranked higher than four other characters.

For Dedede, I main him, I'm arguably a pro with him, and I can assure you he isn't anywhere near fifth best character in the game nor top tier. Dedede may be the worst matchup or one of the worst matchups for many other characters, but he is countered by too many top and high tier characters to be anywhere near top tier, and maybe even just be the worst ranked high tier. You can't be a contender for top tier when you're countered by the most common characters, especially one that is used by 25% of the playerbase.

For some other significant things with your Brawl list; you're underestimating the power of Diddy's nanners, he's an unarguable top tier character at this point. Sonic is way too high, he's a decent middle tier character, but he has arguably the worst killing ability in Brawl and one of the worst movesets, you can't be a contender for high tier with that. Lucario is a bit too low; he's one of the few characters in Brawl with real comboing ability, along with an amazing moveset and fantastic KO moves (when sufficiently damaged), including a f-smash that is virtually unpunishable when used right, and he has no deficiencies in other areas, other than an awful recovery (which keeps him on the lower rungs of high tier). Wario is also too low, the grab release issues keep him from being top tier, they don't knock him below high tier. R.O.B. is too low; he has too strong of camping and spacing ability to be lower middle tier, and has a lot of solid all-around moves, only his killing issues and Meta Knight keep from being potentially high tier. Game & Watch is way too low; when you have his great power, good moveset, good speed, and amazing survivability, you have no business being near low tier unless you have some absolutely crippling weakness (which he does not have). Captain Falcon is too high, he just cannot function in Brawl physics at all; his great movement, decent kill power, great jab/uair, and good survivability keep him out of the bottom tier, but he's not anywhere near king of low tier. And finally, you have Bowser too low; he's faster and stronger than Link and Zelda, with better KO moves, a better recovery, and an actually good OoS game. Compared to Jigglypuff, he doesn't die to a stiff breeze, doesn't get wrecked by Brawl physics, and doesn't have to rely on camping to win at high levels. Compared to all three, he also can do some neat grab release stuff. Bowser is poor in Brawl, but he's not bottom tier, and he's definitely better than Zelda, Link, Jigglypuff, and I would say Falcon as well.

For your Melee list, I won't comment much on it beyond the aforementioned Kirby thing, other then that you got Mewtwo and Roy way too high. They're both definitive low tier characters and not solid middle tier characters. For Roy, see the intro I wrote on his character page for why he's such an awful character. For Mewtwo, sure he has some neat things and an amazing recovery, but when you have such drastic design flaws as he does, you can't be anywhere near the middle. Omega Tyrant

21:04, 6 January 2014 (EST)

I honestly made Mewtwo high because of Taj and Kirby maybe a little biased but its probably because of how I play him. Also as for Lucario I think its because his true potential doesnt kick in until he gets beaten up and cmon that just highers the possiblilty of being destroyed. And lastly some chars like Diddy arent in High Tier because im just lazy to put him up there and do all this tier changing crap. Ill probably do it soon lol. --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 21:29, 6 January 2014 (EST) Oh and I will place Lucario and Wario in C+ Tier and Sonic in C- Tier. And CF will get a lower then Mario but not Jiggs, Bowser, Ganondorf, Zelda and Link. Lastly, as for Kirby and Dedede they will be put in one of the B tiers --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 21:37, 6 January 2014 (EST) AND THE ABSOLUTE LAST THING I WILL MENTION: Kirby has 2 good Matchups while Bowser & Pichu have 0 good matchups. Now why is Pichu higher than Bowser? Because Its grab game and its speed. --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 22:06, 6 January 2014 (EST)

"Notable players"

Hi, you seem to be adding people to the "notable players" sections of character pages who are just well known players that occasionally use those characters. I'm telling you now not to do that. The "notable players" section are for players who have done significant things with that character in tournament, whether it be innovating major stuff for the character, getting unusually high placings with the character at some point in history, or just being one of the best players of the character. It's not for any big name player that once used the character in a tournament or uses them in friendlies. For your example, Taj belongs on the Mewtwo and Marth sections, as he's the player people think of when they think of the former character, and he consistently places high in nationals with the latter. He does not belong in the Samus, Link, Fox, or Falco sections, as he has never done anything of note with those characters in competitive play compared to the notable players of those characters.

So yeah, stop adding big name players to "notable players" sections because they have the character listed as an "other character" on their smasher page. Omega Tyrant 18:24, 6 January 2014 (EST)

Read the above, don't just add big name players to character categories because they're listed as an "other" character on their smasherbeta. Omega Tyrant 19:41, 6 January 2014 (EST)

Well what about something like Armada's Young Link? --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 20:06, 6 January 2014 (EST)

If the player's low tier character is actually well known and they have used them to some noteworthy success (such as Armada's Young Link, or Ally's Captain Falcon), then yes they can belong. If they just fool around with the character in friendlies though or used them once, they do not belong regardless of how noteworthy the player is. Omega Tyrant

21:06, 6 January 2014 (EST)

Smash Arena suggestions

You appear to not be reading all the rules of Smash Arena suggestions. One of them is that no user may suggest more than one fight every 7 days. Take note. Toomai Glittershine The Inconceivable 17:57, 7 January 2014 (EST)

Leaving the Wiki for a bit

As of January 7 I will be taking some time off this wiki. I think I have done certain bad things on this wiki such as posting way too much Smash Arena suggestions. This however does not mean I will not be editing my own page or looking up stuff on this Wiki. Note: This isnt my final edit just im not gonna make one for a while. Also I will participate in Smash Arena voting and ideas but not much due to most of my ideas being for SSB4. --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 21:44, 7 January 2014 (EST)

1 thing you may have noticed is that im still making changes. I will only be making SMALL changes. I will only make 1 type of page being a redirect page during this hiatus from big changes. --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 23:46, 8 January 2014 (EST)

Excuse me but

There were two significant problems with that Punch-Out template you attempted to make:

It was previously deleted for being a universe template with only one member (the universe page itself doesn't count). You should pay more attention to messages when you create pages, which would have informed you of this.
You did not preview it, resulting in a horrid mess due to how the system interprets exclamation points (or something like that, I didn't look too hard into it). You shouldn't be adding a template to pages when it's quite obviously broken.

I can tell you're trying to help, but please be more careful so you don't make a mess. Toomai Glittershine Da Bess 17:27, 9 January 2014 (EST)

This may sound dumb but I made that template just because Punch Out being in SSB4 is so likely. Wont happen again unless Little Mac is announced for SSB4! --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 18:07, 9 January 2014 (EST)

You're being reverted for a reason

If I come across as rude, I apologize, but this really needs to be said.

Please stop adding "professional" categories to articles where the subject is either not known for their competitive aptitude, not well-known for playing the character at a high competitive level, or both. An article that lists a smasher as a "pro-am" or "semi-professional", for example, is not an article where you want to add their mains and secondaries to the "professionals" category. Omega Tyrant already notified you on this, yet you chose to ignore it. As a friendly suggestion, I'd suggest to focus on other parts of the wiki. Thank you! PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 18:08, 14 January 2014 (EST)

Young Link in PM

Discuss my Young Link ideas please and give me some ideas. --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 18:49, 26 January 2014 (EST)

I think you should

actually wait for the discussion to reach a conscious before making the respective edits (which is a lot of edits anyway). You didn't even say anything in that discussion anyway... Scr7(talk · contribs) 17:56, 1 February 2014 (EST)

Edit summaries/revert reasons

Why can't you just read the edit summaries that people are giving you while reverting you? You shouldn't just completely ignore them and then make the edit back without even saying anything or trying to refute the summary. This has happened countless times. I'm not trying to be rude, but I have no idea what is with your ignorance. Scr7(talk · contribs) 06:47, 16 February 2014 (EST)

You should take note of this. Instead of reverting other users and just talking in edit summaries, use talk pages to discuss things before you make another edit, or run afoul of SW:1RV. Toomai Glittershine The Trumpeteer 18:06, 19 February 2014 (EST)

These redirects

Why are you making so many redirects? We don't have to redirect every possible phrase that someone could type into the search box.

Just because a smasher was called something in a stream as a joke does not mean that the joke warrants a redirect page.
You don't need to have a redirect for every possible nickname someone could have for an article. "Yoshi's Island (pipes)" is not a legitimate thing to call Yoshi's Island, and nobody is going to type that into the search. Dr. Mario is not a character in PM. Nobody is going to search for Dr. Mario (PM).

Easy there with the redirects. Ryxis (talk) 21:59, 18 February 2014 (EST)

Because Doc is an Alt for Mario and is the most notable alt since he was a character. Not to mention the Tournament legal (SSBM) uses Yoshi's Island (pipes) as a nickname --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 22:33, 18 February 2014 (EST) That doesn't mean they need redirects. You don't need to redirect everything that could ever possibly be redirected. Ryxis (talk) 23:52, 18 February 2014 (EST)

For future reference

Things that are tagged for obvious speedy deletion don't need a talk page discussion. Miles (talk) 21:01, 20 February 2014 (EST)

Editing my page

Might I ask why cant I edit my own page during a block? It needs to be fixed. I can understand not being able to edit anything else but my own page? Thats just evil. --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 11:09, 4 March 2014 (EST)

Sorry, according to policy, even userpages are SmashWiki property. The Wiki encourages people to edit the mainspace than their userpages. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 11:37, 4 March 2014 (EST)

OK but could someone just switch Dr. Mario and Yoshi in my "Other SSBM Characters" while im banned? Please? --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 11:41, 4 March 2014 (EST)

You can wait out the ban, that isn't something that needs immediate fixing. Omega Tyrant

11:44, 4 March 2014 (EST)

Also please read SW:NOT and SW:USER. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 12:47, 4 March 2014 (EST)

Copycat

I cant edit the Copycat page nor create a talk page for it so im gonna say: He plays Sheik mostly but still mains Kirby. Also he seems to be a "Professional". --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 09:13, 5 March 2014 (EST)

I'm going to assume good faith here, but this is quite close to block evasion. Such an error is hardly a major omission or something that could not be done when you get back from your block tomorrow. Also, if you are blocked and must find a way to have your edit made, you need to give a lot of reasons/links for it. Again, I really think this was in good faith, but I just wanted to let you know so you don't accidentaly do something like this in the future. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 13:34, 5 March 2014 (EST)

To be honest

You have several users who are constantly undoing your edits to smasher and related pages. Perhaps you should take a step back and think about whether you really know what you're doing, or whether you should defer until you become more experienced. Toomai Glittershine The Resolute 17:40, 25 March 2014 (EDT)

SW:1RV

Hi, it seems you have been using multiple reverts. You're only allowed to revert once and read page histories and edit summaries to see why posts don't belong there. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is made in America 00:27, 4 April 2014 (EDT)

Dinoboy account?

That was you as well, right? I'm going to it into this unless you have a compelling reason why I shouldn't. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 19:22, 6 April 2014 (EDT)