Talk:Super Mario Maker

How to handle images

Ok so if we put all 4 portions of the stage into the infobox, it's going to be a mess, so here is my proposal (and this is more or less to be implemented when the stage gets released): We put the original SMB portion (wii u) in the infobox and throw the other 3 in a gallery at the bottom of the page. The original version...is the most iconic, obviously. Serpent∞King (talk) 22:12, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

The randomized layout stages are kind of a permanent mess. I think ultimately the trick will be to try and get as much of the randomizable content into as few pictures as is reasonably possible. Miles (talk) 22:15, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

I'd say just one per style, with SMB taking the infobox (which is seemingly what Serpent King was trying to say). And Omega, of course. (how would that even work?) ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 22:16, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

I support that, because, if we've done it before, then I don't see why we can't do it again. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 22:27, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

In case it's unclear: support for me too Serpent∞King (talk) 22:34, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

I support per Serpent peeps. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 23:29, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

What is the policy for currently existing randomized stages? (Only Gamer?) I'm under the impression they use the in-game picture from the stage selector, directly ripped from the game. -Menshay (talk) 15:35, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

All stages use their stage select icon AFAIK. Nyargleblargle (Talk · Contribs) 15:38, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

Announced 3 Days After SMM's release

Alrighty folks, we got a little problem here. A small edit war commenced over a trivial, oh so trivial...trivia point. We got Aidanzapunk here, who is clearly king of trivia (and we mean a LOT of trivia), of all sorts, who has put the detail that the stage was announced 3 days after SMM's release at the current, and only, trivia point. What does this trivia say? To paraphrase this single sentence, it basically states that SMM is the most recently represented game in SSB4. Now, what does SMM's representation in Smash have to do with the SMM stage being announced 3 days after its release? Not as much as the actual release date of SMM, which is mentioned in the first paragraph. It takes like 5, 6, 7 words or so after stating it was announced in the first paragraph to say that it was announced 3 days after SMM's release date. That is also possible to put after the trivia point. But the point is, is that there is a direct relation between the two dates (SMM's release and the SMM stage's announcement), thus, it would be no problem, in fact, most logical to put them together. I've hidden the text in the two possible areas; I would most desire to hear your thoughts. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 23:29, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

If it's a trivia point, it belongs in trivia. I am not sure what there is to argue here. Serpent∞King (talk) 23:31, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Is it trivia though? That is the question. The fact that it was announced 3 days after SMM's release, I think, is enough to warrant a brief mention after the statement stating its announcement date. For all we know, its announcement date could be trivia. Could. In fact, a lot of things could be trivia. There's a reason why the fact that SMM is the most recently represented game in Smash is delegated to trivia. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 23:34, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

By the way, if this ends up being deemed trivia, it belongs in a second bullet point, not in the same point or a sub-bullet point. Actually, I'd be find with that, and I'll change it to that right now. But if we come up with something better here by consensus we can change it.Smashedpotatoes (talk) 23:39, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

SK couldn't have said it better; I'm good with obscure facts, and that's why I'm, as you have dubbed me, "clearly king of trivia". That said, that's the only reason I put it back. I don't see why it's (almost) always you that has a problem with what I put as trivia. We've talked about this before. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 23:44, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Are you good with how it is right now? I should have done that in the first place. A lot of time I have a problem with your trivia is that some of them can be uninteresting. Mostly what's in the sub-bullets. Or, the points in the sub-bullets aren't interesting or significant enough to be sub-bullets, so they could be merged with the parent bullet and be fine. In this case, it's the opposite, as the two points in the singular bullet have little relation to each other, but they're still interesting/significant, so it should be split in two. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 23:49, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Ok, SP, what you put made it worse. Saying "this stage was announced blah blah blah" isn't interesting trivia, whereas saying "this game has the most recent representation, as the stage was announced blah blah blah" makes it sound so much better. It's late for me, I've had a rough day, and I'm in no mood to discuss this now. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 23:50, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Honestly, I feel that Aidan is one of few who actually know what they are doing with trivia. Serpent∞King (talk) 23:51, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Well, hey, SP was right to dub me "clearly king of trivia". Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 23:52, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Split, anyone? I feel that's the best way to go about this. Just split it in two. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 23:53, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

It stands 3-1 in favor of not splitting. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 23:54, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

What? No split. Serpent∞King (talk) 23:55, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Better idea. Instead of saying it was announced 3 days after its release, how about we say the game was released less than a month prior to the stage's release. I mean that's the main problem, the lack of pertinence. Eh? Smashedpotatoes (talk) 23:58, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Why make it less specific? Serpent∞King (talk) 00:00, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

Being vague would only make it less pertinent. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 00:00, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

It's not about specificity. An announcement isn't as significant, or pertinent to the first part of that sentence, as a release. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:02, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

(Reset indent) ...It kinda is. Hell, Splatoon's Smash DLC only got revealed a few days after it came out, didn't it? Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 00:03, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

Agreed. I am not following you, SP Serpent∞King (talk) 00:04, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

But that doesn't have much to do with it, at the time, being the most recently represented series. I mean it is a bit, but that relation is not strong enough to warrant it being a single trivia point. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:06, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

It has everything to do with it. My point is, the way I have it flows better with the rest of the point. Now, sure, SW:YAV, but still. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 00:08, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

I disagree (no idea why you put SW:YAV there), it doesn't flow. I say make it two. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:10, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

Just feel the flow Aidan Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:11, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

Consensus says otherwise. 3-1, in favor of not splitting. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 00:12, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

Maybe, we just flow differently. And I guess that is ok. But let's see how other people feel this flow k. It's 2-1 in favor of not splitting, I think Miles was in favor of merely keeping it in trivia. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:13, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

Differences are okay. I'm one who's all for equality. But when consensus is the way to make decisions around here (which it is), then that takes priority. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 00:15, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

Yes, I agree bro. How long do you want to keep this flowing? Anything more than a 24 hours ain't worth it. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:15, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

Fine by me. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 00:17, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

Alrighty. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:17, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

If this conversation last 24 hours, there is a serious problem. Serpent∞King (talk) 00:18, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

We're giving other people time to submit their opinions on the subject. SP and I are simply bystanders as of now. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 00:19, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

It's a minor but interesting note. It's totally fine in my book. Miles (talk) 23:47, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Let me reiterate: the trivia point is fine. This is way too inconsequential to warrant a discussion this big. Miles (talk) 00:20, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

See, what'd I tell ya? 3-1. Let's let bygones be bygones and focus on other shit. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 00:21, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

We're sticking it out to the end! Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:23, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

...I'm not... Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 00:24, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

You know what, this is literally the stupidest thing I've ever done here. Let's call it quits. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:25, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

On another note, I'm surprised we went at it for this long. It'd be almost impressive if it weren't a dispute over a trivia point. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:27, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

Tyvm Serpent∞King (talk) 00:27, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

Np, always a pleasure Serpent. And you too, Aidan. My heart is elated that we could end this in such a civil manner. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:29, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

So what type of stage is this?

Is it a full 3D one or a 2D one? I'm going for the former because it's impossible to rotate the camera, so it might be a 2D stage, not to mention the enemies in the backround are all prerendered sprites ripped from Super Mario Maker. Nintenzilla (talk) 09:49, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

2D...why do you ask? Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 09:53, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Because I feel we should mention this somewhere in the article. Nintenzilla (talk) 09:55, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

On the subject of the DLC for SSM being hinted.

I think this is a strong possibility, notice how all of the stage's aesthetics are ripped straight from the source material. Nintenzilla (talk) 13:36, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Key word: "possibility". That's not something we need to report on. Also, just because they used similar or even the same sprites for some things doesn't mean that they did for everything; also, rotating sprites isn't that difficult so that explains the slopes, and the lava sprite already exists from the castle, it just can't be placed in the overworld. It's not necessarily implying anything, and even if it is we should not be reporting on it as an encyclopedia. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by BOO! Or maybe Nutta. 13:39, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

I could ask NWPlayer on Twitter if she could datamine SSM and see if she finds anything. She's open for requests. Nintenzilla (talk) 13:41, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

We already mention that the usage of certain elements in the way this stage uses them isn't possible in SMM. Whether that indicates a "hint" about future content is a conclusion a reader will have to draw for themselves; it's not our place to claim such a thing. And as to your other point, she and RTB have gone through SMM pretty thoroughly by this point. I think they'd have mentioned such a thing if it existed. Miles (talk) 13:43, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Per Miles. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by BOO! Or maybe Nutta. 13:44, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a minor patch that was released recently that bumps the game to ver. 1.0.2? Nintenzilla (talk) 13:45, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

okay look, if you absolutely want to know if it's dlc have her datamine, i don't care. But it's not something that goes on this page. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by BOO! Or maybe Nutta. 13:49, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Look, I'm sorry if I upset you, but I don't think that it should be said it's entirely impossible, it feels somewhat subjective, at least in my opinion. Nintenzilla (talk) 13:51, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

We aren't saying it's entirely impossible. We're saying nothing on the matter. What the trivia point says is that slopes and lava cannot be placed in the game- that is fact. Anything else is speculation, and should not be on a mainspace article. Readers can draw their own conclusions. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by BOO! Or maybe Nutta. 13:53, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Understood. Nintenzilla (talk) 13:57, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Star KO and Screen KO occurrences

I've learned that Star KOs and Screen KOs only occur in the 3DS version. The same also goes to the Duck Hunt stage in the 3DS version.

Already on the page. Also, sign with four tildes (~) please. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by BOO! Or maybe Nutta. 23:07, 28 October 2015 (EDT)

Can this stage be in 3DS attract mode?

I didn't see can anyone tell this is gonna to be in 3DS attract mode? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.163.140 (talk • contribs) 17:16 10 October 2015

First, please sign your comments with ~~~~. Second, I know what you're talking about, but it would be a pain to look for unless someone happened upon it. I would imagine so, though. Nyargleblargle (Talk | Contribs) 17:20, 10 November 2015 (EST)

This is not hard to understand

Fire Emblem Fates will be the most recently represented game in Smash once Corrin releases. When that happens, Yoshi's Wooly World will not longer be the most recently represented game in Smash in North America.

Trivia point is NOT about listing games that come after Smash, only the most recently represented game (NOT plural) in both regions. For Japan it's Super Mario Maker, and in North America, Fire Emblem Fates. Smashedpotatoes (Talk) 17:05, 26 December 2015 (EST)