Talk:Olimar (SSB4)

the pikmin

look very nice. also love the addition of the whistle in Olamars helmet.
Ixbran (talk) 07:11, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

Do not use talk pages to muse about the article subject. If you want to discuss Olimar in Smash 4, make a forum about it. Omega Tyrant 08:00, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

OT's revert

"He was called "Pikmin and Olimar" on the Dojo too", you say. That's true. But nowhere in any form of official media has the character been called "Olimar" yet, so it's unofficial. We have an unofficial tag on Skyloft, we can't just pretend Olimar is the official name yet. It's not like I'm asking for the page to be renamed, it's just an article icon. Toast ltimatum 09:10, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

You might as well argue that we should change the title of Super Smash Bros. 4 to Super Smash Bros. for Wii U/3DS because the term SSB4 isn't official nor has it ever been mentioned. SmashWiki is not official ----- Conanshinichi 11:54, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

Clearly, you have misunderstood me. I am not proposing that we rename the article. When our articles use an unofficial title, we must display a purple Article Icon at the top-right of the article to show that the name we're using is unofficial. "Olimar", as of yet, is not the official name of the character. Currently, it is "Pikmin & Olimar". Therefore, we needed to add the Article Icon. This was reverted for what I find unacceptable reasons, so I brought up this discussion to respond to it. Toast ltimatum 12:12, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

Oh, Ok then, I agree with you because SSB4 has that icon as well ----- Conanshinichi 12:37, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

No, this argument is terrible. It's not like we're calling him pajama or something. He's been called "Olimar" in previous games and "Olimar" is still a portion of the name "Pikmin & Olimar". Also, this doesn't at all fit the usage of the unofficial lingo tag. It's for fan-made-up terms like priority. Last I checked, he's actually called "Olimar". DoctorPain99 14:23, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

Besides, "Olimar" is used in the game too, so that's still an official name. - Ceci n’est pas un Smiddle. 16:25, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

It's used in Brawl, so it's official on the Olimar (SSBB) article. All we have so far for SSB4 is Pikmin & Olimar, so as far as I'm concerned, that's his official name at the moment, whether it gets in the game or not. There is no proof that it will, so calling him Olimar is speculative. Again, it's not like I want the page renaming, it's just an unofficial term icon. Toast ltimatum 16:31, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

It's the same character – I don't see how an official name could be restricted to one game. - Ceci n’est pas un Smiddle. 16:36, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

But the icon is misleading for the reasons I already explained. Your argument is based on the fact that we aren't calling it exactly word for word what the site is calling it and is somewhat speculative. If it were a completely different name, I'd see your reasoning, but it's not. "Pikmin and Olimar" includes "Olimar" as part of it, therefore, it's not unofficial. Also consider how we deal with the Melee stages. Fountain of Dreams is technically named by the game as "Dream Land: Fountain of Dreams". Do we have an unoficial lingo tag on that page? No, because the name we use is the most relevant piece of the official name, as is the case here. And stop with the "it's not like I'm asking to rename the page"; that's irrelevant. It only matters why we should have the tag on the page, and clearly, we should not. DoctorPain99 16:39, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

We can leave the page where it is as a result of SmashWiki is not official, but by using the non-official name for something that has an official title, we should indicate that clearly with the unofficial name icon. If he's referred to as simply "Olimar" in the actual release of SSB4, then and only then should we remove the tag. Miles (talk) 17:02, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

No, we should remove the tag now and move the page to "Pikmin & Olimar (SSB4)" and not use the unofficial name tag. There is no proof that the name used on the site is used on the game, as that wasn't the case for Brawl. And the name is not fucking unofficial; if he is called "Pikmin & Olimar", he is still called "Olimar". DoctorPain99 17:10, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

So splitting a name in half still makes it official? If we called the Wii Fit Trainer (SSB4) article "Trainer (SSB4)", would that still be official? Would "Popo (SSB4)" be an official name? The fact that the character from the Pikmin games is called Olimar means nothing, the playable character in SSB4, as far as we're concerned, is called Pikmin & Olimar, so Olimar is a speculative and unofficial name, until the game itself refers to him as "Olimar" by itself, if it does at all. Toast ltimatum 17:47, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

No because each of those are slightly different situations. More like if we called it "DK (SSBM)" instead of Donkey Kong (SSBM), it would still be official, but one is clearly the better name. DoctorPain99 18:10, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

Second-person pronoun

In one of the last pictures in the article, the caption reads, "You can clearly see his whistle and Hocotate Freight patch." "You" needs to be replaced by a third-person pronoun. I'd take care of that myself, but I am not allowed to edit the page. Could someone please do that for me? I'd really appreciate it! 71.105.121.171 14:15, 24 August 2013 (EDT)

Done. DoctorPain99 14:17, 24 August 2013 (EDT)

On another note, you'd be able to edit the page if you made an account. It's worthwhile doing so, we have a full help page explaining why. Toast ltimatum 15:06, 24 August 2013 (EDT)