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::'''Oppose''', as they're identified as separate entities in both the Smash and Mario series. -[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 09:50, 13 January 2016 (EST)
::'''Oppose''', as they're identified as separate entities in both the Smash and Mario series. -[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 09:50, 13 January 2016 (EST)
sorry, but i oppose [[User:Nintendofan1653|<font color="red">'''Nintendofan1653'''</font>]] ''([[User talk:Nintendofan1653#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the true north strong and free 12:05, 13 January 2016 (EST)
sorry, but i oppose [[User:Nintendofan1653|<font color="red">'''Nintendofan1653'''</font>]] ''([[User talk:Nintendofan1653#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the true north strong and free 12:05, 13 January 2016 (EST)
:::I'd also like to point out that [[Koopa Troopa|Green and Red Koopas]] having the same page leads to something else: [[Koopa Paratroopa]] has its own page, something, I think, that is closer to this situation here, as Paratroopas are functionally different from Koopas, as Goombas are functionally different from Giant Goombas. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 13:46, 13 January 2016 (EST)
::::Except, as this page makes clear, they aren't. The only difference is that it takes an extra hit or two to kill a Giant Goomba, just like the only difference between Green and Red Koopas is that one walks off ledges. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  13:49, 13 January 2016 (EST)
Primids and Big Primids have separate pages, and there's never been any debate there, so... [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Pan-Galactic 15:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)
:I didn't see a point in starting a discussion on both. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  15:08, 13 January 2016 (EST)
== Big Goomba ==
It's new name is big goomba.can we move it to big goomba???? [[User:Larry Koopa|Larry Koopa]] ([[User talk:Larry Koopa|talk]]) 08:47, 18 October 2017 (EDT)
:Where's your proof? Keep in mind that we have to go with whatever name the character has at the time of the last Smash game's release. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the Internets go! :3''']]</span> 09:01, 18 October 2017 (EDT)
::I mean, [[Giant Goomba#In Super Smash Bros. 4|the wiki itself is proof enough, no?]] [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Rurouni'''</span>]] 09:30, 18 October 2017 (EDT)
what i'm saying is that in mariowiki the article name is big goomba.[[User:Larry Koopa|Larry Koopa]] ([[User talk:Larry Koopa|talk]]) 10:03, 18 October 2017 (EDT)
:I had a small feeling that that's what it was about. I'll say what I was going to say before I looked at our own page and changed my response: we're not MarioWiki, or Wikipedia, or any other wiki - we make page names based on official ''Smash'' things (with [[SW:OFFICIAL|some unofficial lingo from time to time]]). If this were any other page, I would say a flat out no to this, but given how the trophy for ''Smash 4'' does refer to it as a "Big Goomba" instead of a "Giant Goomba", I'm willing to let this one slide. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Rurouni'''</span>]] 13:08, 18 October 2017 (EDT)
Wow this tag has been up for 2 years? '''Support'''. The trophy in  Smash 4 calls it Big Goomba. [[Special:Contributions/72.203.118.154|72.203.118.154]] 20:12, January 31, 2020 (EST)
:'''Support''' for reasons already stated above.[[User:Mogo|Mogo]] ([[User talk:Mogo|talk]]) 15:14, February 1, 2020 (EST)
'''Support'''. Smash always refers to it as "big Goomba" and no where have I seen it called "giant Goomba" (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). Judging how no one opposed this I will move the page. If anyone disagrees please mention soon. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd</font> <font color="aqua">the Toαd Wαrrior</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">(BUP)</font></span>]]''' 02:31, April 4, 2020 (EDT)
:'''Support.''' I know that article of the big Goomba, has three different names: Giant Goomba, Grand Goomba and Big Goomba. Regardless, '''I am going to agree that we merge this article to "Big Goomba".''' Also, one of the users said ''Smash'' referred that Goomba as a big Goomba. [[File:Derekblue1SigHead1.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">'''Derekblue1'''</span>]] [[User talk:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Derekblue1SigHead2.png|20px|link=]] 23:27, April 24, 2020 (EDT)
:'''Support''' as said above. [[User:S3AHAWK|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:Blue;">S3AHAWK</span>]][[File:S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.png|20px]][[File:S3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:S3AHAWK|''<span style="color: Red;">talk</span>'']]) 21:52, May 6, 2020 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 22:59, May 10, 2020

Merge[edit]

Does this seriously need its own page? Most of the page is just repeating what's said on Goomba, plus "it's bigger and more resilient". Why can't we just say on Goomba's page "It has a larger variant which is more resilient and can be found in (levels)"? ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 20:01, 12 January 2016 (EST)

Oppose; it is identified as a separate enemy by the SSE HUD and its trophies. Merits its own page (albeit barely). Miles (talk) 20:07, 12 January 2016 (EST)
Oppose per Miles. Disaster Flare My signature image for the default signature. Duplicate of Lucina's life white stock head. (talk) 20:10, 12 January 2016 (EST)
Ehhh that doesn't really seem like good logic. First of all, trophies also make a difference between Daisy and Baseball Daisy, but those are merged despite also having different roles. And more relevantly, Green and Red Koopas. And also, the SSB4 trophy specifically says "It's a Goomba, but bigger", making it clear there isn't really much of a difference, and the Brawl trophy has to mention a completely unrelated creature in order to barely reach the length of a typical trophy. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 20:24, 12 January 2016 (EST)
Strong oppose per Miles Serpent SKSig.png King 06:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)
Oppose, as they're identified as separate entities in both the Smash and Mario series. -Menshay (talk) 09:50, 13 January 2016 (EST)

sorry, but i oppose Nintendofan1653 (talk) the true north strong and free 12:05, 13 January 2016 (EST)

I'd also like to point out that Green and Red Koopas having the same page leads to something else: Koopa Paratroopa has its own page, something, I think, that is closer to this situation here, as Paratroopas are functionally different from Koopas, as Goombas are functionally different from Giant Goombas. Serpent SKSig.png King 13:46, 13 January 2016 (EST)
Except, as this page makes clear, they aren't. The only difference is that it takes an extra hit or two to kill a Giant Goomba, just like the only difference between Green and Red Koopas is that one walks off ledges. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 13:49, 13 January 2016 (EST)

Primids and Big Primids have separate pages, and there's never been any debate there, so... Toomai Glittershine ??? The Pan-Galactic 15:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)

I didn't see a point in starting a discussion on both. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:08, 13 January 2016 (EST)

Big Goomba[edit]

It's new name is big goomba.can we move it to big goomba???? Larry Koopa (talk) 08:47, 18 October 2017 (EDT)

Where's your proof? Keep in mind that we have to go with whatever name the character has at the time of the last Smash game's release. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the Internets go! :3 09:01, 18 October 2017 (EDT)
I mean, the wiki itself is proof enough, no? Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 09:30, 18 October 2017 (EDT)

what i'm saying is that in mariowiki the article name is big goomba.Larry Koopa (talk) 10:03, 18 October 2017 (EDT)

I had a small feeling that that's what it was about. I'll say what I was going to say before I looked at our own page and changed my response: we're not MarioWiki, or Wikipedia, or any other wiki - we make page names based on official Smash things (with some unofficial lingo from time to time). If this were any other page, I would say a flat out no to this, but given how the trophy for Smash 4 does refer to it as a "Big Goomba" instead of a "Giant Goomba", I'm willing to let this one slide. Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 13:08, 18 October 2017 (EDT)

Wow this tag has been up for 2 years? Support. The trophy in Smash 4 calls it Big Goomba. 72.203.118.154 20:12, January 31, 2020 (EST)

Support for reasons already stated above.Mogo (talk) 15:14, February 1, 2020 (EST)

Support. Smash always refers to it as "big Goomba" and no where have I seen it called "giant Goomba" (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). Judging how no one opposed this I will move the page. If anyone disagrees please mention soon. Image for my signiture icon. OmegαToαd the Toαd Wαrrior (BUP) 02:31, April 4, 2020 (EDT)

Support. I know that article of the big Goomba, has three different names: Giant Goomba, Grand Goomba and Big Goomba. Regardless, I am going to agree that we merge this article to "Big Goomba". Also, one of the users said Smash referred that Goomba as a big Goomba. User signature icon. Derekblue1 (talk) User signature icon. 23:27, April 24, 2020 (EDT)
Support as said above. S3AHAWKThis image is my signature icon. Also seen on Wikibound as File:S3AHAWK SIG.pngThis is my signature icon (talk) 21:52, May 6, 2020 (EDT)