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:Changing my opinion to '''oppose'''. I still honestly think compared to other combos like the Greenhouse, it's not notable enough for a page, but the current results in itself prove that people want to keep it for a reason. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:58, 1 January 2016 (EST)
:Changing my opinion to '''oppose'''. I still honestly think compared to other combos like the Greenhouse, it's not notable enough for a page, but the current results in itself prove that people want to keep it for a reason. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:58, 1 January 2016 (EST)
:: I change to '''''Oppose''''' per DF. [[Special:Contributions/98.157.202.185|98.157.202.185]] 15:13, 1 January 2016 (EST)
:: I change to '''''Oppose''''' per DF. [[Special:Contributions/98.157.202.185|98.157.202.185]] 15:13, 1 January 2016 (EST)
== Eh? ==
Why is this article written in a way that hypes up MK's ladder combos in Brawl while downplaying them in Smash 4, when it was nearly MK's entire meta in 4 and we all know how minor non-chain grab combos were in Brawl, it looks like the writer saw "oh his Smash 4 uair is nerfed so his combos must be worse" without actually knowing anything about the context of the games. Watch some MK sets between the two games, and you'll rarely see MK actually pull off a successful ladder death combo in Brawl (I don't even think I got "rufio'd" before in my entire Brawl career), while you'll probably see it nearly every set in 4. I'll probably rewrite this myself at some point, but if someone else is up for it, I'll let them handle it.
Also needs information for Ult too, where it's about as important for MK as it was in 4, though they're more varied as often he'll end up "bridging" you to the sides and KOing you horizontally instead. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 19:18, February 24, 2021 (EST)

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I do believe that this combo is well used with Meta Knight but if it doesn't have a proper name, we could mention it on his character pages or in his moveset subpages. Dots (talk) 60% tech skill, 30% crazy, 10% you name it. :P The Jiggly 14:17, 26 December 2015 (EST)

Found one. Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 14:31, 26 December 2015 (EST)
Bump, and Strong Support for deletion. It doesn't need this much detail. 98.157.202.185 15:05, 30 December 2015 (EST)
Support Definitely deserves a mention on MK's pages, but I don't think it's notable enough to warrant its own page. Disaster Flare My signature image for the default signature. Duplicate of Lucina's life white stock head. (talk) 15:07, 30 December 2015 (EST)
Slight opposition I definitely agree with DF and anon, but let's not forget these two. Yes, I know they're Smash 64, but just because this one's Brawl doesn't make it any less important. Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 15:19, 30 December 2015 (EST)
The problem is unlike the two you mentioned, I've never even heard of this combo, which unfamiliarity in itself kinda hurts credibility. Disaster Flare My signature image for the default signature. Duplicate of Lucina's life white stock head. (talk) 15:20, 30 December 2015 (EST)
Smashboards didn't have a lot on this subject as well. I'll stick to my opinion, but I'm aware it's only a matter before the page gets deleted. Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 16:54, 30 December 2015 (EST)
Strong opposition This term is widely used between top players like ZeRo, Seibrik and Mew2King and this combo is very relevant in both games, as it's a core of Meta Knight's gameplay. Never hearing about the term is not a reason for deletion, actually Wiki pages are for people to learn things, like this term. There's absolutely no reason for deleting this page. Joaco (talk) 03:55, 31 December 2015 (EST)

I oppose per Joaco. Not knowing about something does not, in itself, warrant it's deletion. I was unaware of what this was, and after reading the article, I now know. It has a purpose and it should stay. Serpent SKSig.png King 04:07, 31 December 2015 (EST)

Oppose per SK and Joaco. Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Contribs) 09:05, 31 December 2015 (EST)

Oppose I heard this term before in Brawl, when I watched the stream in the past. It does exist in Smash 4. Like Joaco, never hearing about this term does not mean deletion. Luigi540 (talk) 12:56, 31 December 2015 (EST)

oppose yeah i heard of this combo before Nintendofan1653 (talk) the true north strong and free 13:26, 31 December 2015 (EST)

Oppose. The combo itself is still a fairly notable thing, regardless of its name. John This is for my signature, which I was told needed to be edited. PK SMAAAASH!! 13:31, 31 December 2015 (EST)

Oppose Don't know if my response is appropriate since I created the page. Like Joaco said, wiki pages are for readers to learn things. This combo is central to Meta Knight's play style in both games; almost every notable Smash 4 Meta Knight main has pulled off the combo, including Ito, Leo, and Abadango, and others. Since it's arguably one of the more iconic combos, it deserves a page that details it. Dhia 12:58 AM, 1 January 2016

Changing my opinion to oppose. I still honestly think compared to other combos like the Greenhouse, it's not notable enough for a page, but the current results in itself prove that people want to keep it for a reason. Disaster Flare My signature image for the default signature. Duplicate of Lucina's life white stock head. (talk) 14:58, 1 January 2016 (EST)
I change to Oppose per DF. 98.157.202.185 15:13, 1 January 2016 (EST)

Eh?

Why is this article written in a way that hypes up MK's ladder combos in Brawl while downplaying them in Smash 4, when it was nearly MK's entire meta in 4 and we all know how minor non-chain grab combos were in Brawl, it looks like the writer saw "oh his Smash 4 uair is nerfed so his combos must be worse" without actually knowing anything about the context of the games. Watch some MK sets between the two games, and you'll rarely see MK actually pull off a successful ladder death combo in Brawl (I don't even think I got "rufio'd" before in my entire Brawl career), while you'll probably see it nearly every set in 4. I'll probably rewrite this myself at some point, but if someone else is up for it, I'll let them handle it.

Also needs information for Ult too, where it's about as important for MK as it was in 4, though they're more varied as often he'll end up "bridging" you to the sides and KOing you horizontally instead. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 19:18, February 24, 2021 (EST)