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*At [[Genesis 2]], {{Sm|Mew2King}} was red carded by the [[Unity Ruleset Committee]] for using {{SSBB|Ganondorf}} and {{SSBB|Falco}} in a losing effort against female smasher {{Sm|Sade}} in [[pool]]s, after defeating everyone else in his pool with his usual {{SSBB|Meta Knight}}.
*At [[Genesis 2]], {{Sm|Mew2King}} was red carded by the [[Unity Ruleset Committee]] for using {{SSBB|Ganondorf}} and {{SSBB|Falco}} in a losing effort against female smasher {{Sm|Sade}} in [[pool]]s, after defeating everyone else in his pool with his usual {{SSBB|Meta Knight}}.
*Canadian Fox main, {{Sm|Unknown522}} incited controversy at [[Revival of Melee 5]] by refusing to play his main against {{Sm|Mew2King}} in grand finals, [[john|claiming]] to be tired.  
*Canadian Fox main, {{Sm|Unknown522}} incited controversy at [[Revival of Melee 5]] by refusing to play his main against {{Sm|Mew2King}} in grand finals, [[john|claiming]] to be tired.  
**Unknown would then cause similar controversy in [[NEC 13]] by again sandbagging against Mew2King in Winner's bracket.
**Unknown would then cause similar controversy in [http://www.smashboards.com/threads/nec-13-road-to-apex-2013-results.330624/ NEC 13] by again sandbagging against Mew2King in Winner's bracket.
*Mew2King has recently picked up a habit of sandbagging in ''Melee'' (although not in a losing effort as he did to Sade years earlier), mostly in locals, smaller tournaments, or pools against opponents he does not deem to be as competent as he is.
*Mew2King has recently picked up a habit of sandbagging in ''Melee'' (although not in a losing effort as he did to Sade years earlier), mostly in locals, smaller tournaments, or pools against opponents he does not deem to be as competent as he is.
**At [[Omegacon 2013]], Mew2King sandbagged the second half of his grand finals set against {{Sm|Milkman}}. After destroying Milkman with his usual Sheik and Fox, he shocked the audience when he chose {{SSBM|Mewtwo}} and {{SSBM|Roy}} to fight subsequent matches [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVMYW58juKs&t=5m20s]. Despite this, Mew2King still ended up winning the set with Roy after losing with Mewtwo.
**At [http://www.smashboards.com/threads/omegacon-2013.340887/ Omegacon 2013] Mew2King sandbagged the second half of his grand finals set against {{Sm|Milkman}}. After destroying Milkman with his usual Sheik and Fox, he shocked the audience when he chose {{SSBM|Mewtwo}} and {{SSBM|Roy}} to fight subsequent matches [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVMYW58juKs&t=5m20s]. Despite this, Mew2King still ended up winning the set with Roy after losing with Mewtwo.
***Mew2King recently tried doing this again at [[The Big House 3]] on {{Sm|Toph}} after being guaranteed first place in his pools, regardless of whether he won that particular set or not. Toph, however, managed to avoid being humiliated, and defeated Mew2King to win the match 2-0.
***Mew2King recently tried doing this again at [[The Big House 3]] on {{Sm|Toph}} after being guaranteed first place in his pools, regardless of whether he won that particular set or not. Toph, however, managed to avoid being humiliated, and defeated Mew2King to win the match 2-0.
**At Smash Break #2, a bi-weekly, Mew2King sandbagged almost the entire tournament. He played low tier characters such as his infamous {{SSBM|Mewtwo}} and even {{SSBM|Pichu}} against ''Brawl'' player {{Sm|Keitaro}} in ''Melee'' [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5bGZYy6mDU], and still won by very noticeable margins. He also sandbagged his Grand Finals set with {{SSBM|TecZero}} after defeating him in less than 5 minutes during their Winner's Finals set; TecZero, knowing he would probably lose no matter what he did, agreed to do random mirror matches with Mew2King per the stream's request, and proceeded to lose badly in {{SSBM|Mr. Game & Watch}}, {{SSBM|Ice Climbers}}, and {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}} dittos.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbWiC3552rU]
**At Smash Break #2, a bi-weekly, Mew2King sandbagged almost the entire tournament. He played low tier characters such as his infamous {{SSBM|Mewtwo}} and even {{SSBM|Pichu}} against ''Brawl'' player {{Sm|Keitaro}} in ''Melee'' [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5bGZYy6mDU], and still won by very noticeable margins. He also sandbagged his Grand Finals set with {{SSBM|TecZero}} after defeating him in less than 5 minutes during their Winner's Finals set; TecZero, knowing he would probably lose no matter what he did, agreed to do random mirror matches with Mew2King per the stream's request, and proceeded to lose badly in {{SSBM|Mr. Game & Watch}}, {{SSBM|Ice Climbers}}, and {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}} dittos.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbWiC3552rU]

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Sandbagging is the act of playing poorly on purpose and/or intentionally using a character that the player would perform worse with. Most of the time, players sandbag in friendly matches to keep others from learning their style. Players also often sandbag against weaker players in tournament, and when playing friendlies, to have lower stress matches and avoid draining themselves before later tournament matches against stronger players.

Sandbagging is often seen as a sign of disrespect when done in serious settings, as it is seen as the player not treating their opponent as an equal nor as a threat, as well as depriving their opponent of a pure competitive match. Due to compromising a tournament's competitive integrity and disrupting the natural progress of the tournament bracket, it is not uncommon for tournaments to have a rule forbidding intentional underperforming at the threat of being disqualified from the tournament altogether. This is a controversial ruling though, as it's not always clear cut if a player is sandbagging, thus making it difficult to enforce, as well as some players claiming it's the right of the player to perform however and use whatever character they want. Despite the negative connotations behind it, it is not uncommon for players to use the excuse that they were sandbagging when they lose.

Sandbagging occurs at all levels of play, even in top level tournament play, where Isai in particular is infamous for rarely trying his best to win, regardless if a substantial amount of money is on the line.

Notable incidents of sandbagging

  • At the Smash 64 tournament in Apex 2012, Isai only used the bottom tier Link, though he still managed to place second, only losing to SuperBoomFan, which regardless of the sandbagging, was a remarkable feat with a bottom tier character.
  • At the Smash 64 tournament in Apex 2013, Isai would again sandbag with his character choice, this time using Mario, despite the crowd yelling for him to use Pikachu several times. He placed second again, this time defeating SuperBoomFan, but losing to Kikoushi in Winner and Grand Finals.
  • Mango went through a period where he adopted the persona of "Scorpion Master", and used Mario at several tournaments, including the Melee tournament at Apex 2010 (where he placed 25th instead of his usual top 4 placing).
  • At Genesis 2, Mew2King was red carded by the Unity Ruleset Committee for using Ganondorf and Falco in a losing effort against female smasher Sade in pools, after defeating everyone else in his pool with his usual Meta Knight.
  • Canadian Fox main, Unknown522 incited controversy at Revival of Melee 5 by refusing to play his main against Mew2King in grand finals, claiming to be tired.
    • Unknown would then cause similar controversy in NEC 13 by again sandbagging against Mew2King in Winner's bracket.
  • Mew2King has recently picked up a habit of sandbagging in Melee (although not in a losing effort as he did to Sade years earlier), mostly in locals, smaller tournaments, or pools against opponents he does not deem to be as competent as he is.
    • At Omegacon 2013 Mew2King sandbagged the second half of his grand finals set against Milkman. After destroying Milkman with his usual Sheik and Fox, he shocked the audience when he chose Mewtwo and Roy to fight subsequent matches [1]. Despite this, Mew2King still ended up winning the set with Roy after losing with Mewtwo.
      • Mew2King recently tried doing this again at The Big House 3 on Toph after being guaranteed first place in his pools, regardless of whether he won that particular set or not. Toph, however, managed to avoid being humiliated, and defeated Mew2King to win the match 2-0.
    • At Smash Break #2, a bi-weekly, Mew2King sandbagged almost the entire tournament. He played low tier characters such as his infamous Mewtwo and even Pichu against Brawl player Keitaro in Melee [2], and still won by very noticeable margins. He also sandbagged his Grand Finals set with TecZero after defeating him in less than 5 minutes during their Winner's Finals set; TecZero, knowing he would probably lose no matter what he did, agreed to do random mirror matches with Mew2King per the stream's request, and proceeded to lose badly in Mr. Game & Watch, Ice Climbers, and Captain Falcon dittos.[3]

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