Forum:Removing matchups from character pages
All of our character pages for Smash 64, Melee, and Brawl feature the relevant character's matchup data, based on the various matchup tables we have on this Wiki.
While these tables may have been more useful back when I first started editing back in 2011, I have to question their relevance to today's character articles. Smash 64 and Melee notably have very out-of-date matchup tables, being 6 and 7 years old, respectively, and both their metagames have long since advanced beyond what these tables display (just look at our friend Yoshi). At this point, including them on character pages, to me at least, seems questionable; we don't list tier list data from 7 years ago, after all. I feel that including such data on our character pages is of little use today, but I also understand this is a pretty big decision, given it's affecting tens of articles. And for all I know, I could be dead wrong on how inaccurate they are. Furthermore, if we removed such data from our pages, then there exists the question of what to do with the actual pages on matchups; do we keep the old data up, with a disclaimer, or remove it?
Now, as a result of Brawl's stagnant metagame since 2013, that matchup chart isn't too much a problem, but I can't exactly verify how accurate it is today (though I could potentially bug OT or someone similar about it, I guess). If we removed the matchup data on pages for Smash 64 and Melee, I would keep the matchup data on Brawl pages, mostly because of the current stagnancy of Brawl's metagame. However, this does create a lack of consistency between the Brawl pages and the other pages, but hey, we already have such an inconsistency with Smash 4 pages. Maybe I'm overthinking it.
Again, soliciting for input on this. Not exactly a small decision (again).
--- Monsieur Crow, Author Extraordinaire, 20:04, 22 June 2017 (EDT)
- The matchup charts certainly have historical value and should not be removed from the wiki entirely. It's obvious at this point, however, that they are completely out of date. Even Brawl's is out of date - I think Fox is more highly regarded than he used to be, although I could be wrong on that. Either way, I think we should warn users by adding "As of 2011/2013" to the matchup templates on the individual character pages, or remove them and add a link somewhere to the complete matchup chart. John
HUAH! 23:28, 22 June 2017 (EDT)
I think it's fine to remove them form character pages but keep them on their own pages. They have a large visual footprint that stands out form the rest of their section, and being so out-of-date is bad for that kind of thing when the rest of the text is a fair progression of historical to present. Toomai Glittershine 
The Boss 06:40, 23 June 2017 (EDT)
- Yeah, in hindsight, completely deleting the machups from their page without a disclaimer would be pretty boneheaded. Sorry about that. Still, I'm on board with removing the Smash 64 and Melee charts from character pages, and I'm going to ask around for the Brawl matchups.
