Category talk:Smashers who participate in SmashWiki

So, uh...

We need to set concrete standards in what is considered "participating in SmashWiki." There's no question that people like Toomai or Omega Tyrant participate in SmashWiki. But what about people who have SmashWiki accounts, but have made a few edits, such as Rickety or Slhoka, or even Mew2King? Should we have something like "more than 100 edits"? Or just "made an account"? Or something entirely different? Discuss. Air Conditioner Goo goo g'joob. 17:57, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

I still disagree that this should exist at all. Why don't "Smashers who participate in SmashBoards", or "...AllIsBrawl"? Because why would we need to make this distinction? Toomai Glittershine The Breegull 18:02, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

+1. There's no reason for this category to exist. It's not notable. DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 18:05, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

Due to this, I support deletion on this page. Dots The Kirby 18:06, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

You people have a point, and as I said, there's no concrete standard for getting into this category. Support deletion. Air Conditioner Goo goo g'joob. 18:12, 30 October 2012 (EDT) I'm now not quite sure. Both sides have a point. I withdraw my support of deletion, but do not support keeping the category. Air Conditioner Goo goo g'joob. 19:03, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

I'm not entirely sure on my support of this yet, but I can give responses to some of the things said:

@AC: "Participate in SmashWiki" is clearly different from "Have accounts on SmashWiki". Simply, any user who can be considered an active user on the Wiki for some time would qualify here.

@Toomai: Pretty much every notable smasher out there has been active on those sites and those are the goto sites for the competitive community (it's pretty much necessary to be on one or the other to be active within the competitive community), whereas an extreme minority have been here. A category for smashers on those sites would be pretty much useless when they would have nearly every smasher article in them. Making this comparison is a pretty bad strawman.

As for a "reason" for this category, simply, perhaps users on here are interested in knowing which pros have been active on the site, and what users on the site are notable smashers. I know this applied to me. Omega Tyrant 18:40, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

Indeed, that has applied to me as well, so I support keeping this category. Toast ltimatum 18:47, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

OT: I see what you mean, but we need some concrete standards. How much is considered "participating"? One edit? Ten edits? One hundred? Five hundred? Air Conditioner Goo goo g'joob. 19:03, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

People who had a SmashWiki account since October 2010 are considered participating. ShupaRoeh 19:21, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

Remember what I said back in the VIP category debate how we don't need to be completely objective about every single thing? We have the mental capacities to determine if a smasher was a part of the community, we don't something stating "requires X edits" to tell us if a smasher was a part of our community (not to mention, we can make that determination ourselves better than objective standards would). Omega Tyrant 07:48, 31 October 2012 (EDT)

That would be a pretty silly requirement, ShupaRoeh. What if Brian or Fugudev suddenly became notable smashers? They'd be excluded for no good reason. You may just be putting "October 2010" as the standard because that's what it happens to be, but that should not be the concrete. Toast ltimatum 09:27, 31 October 2012 (EDT)

Just ignore that, that's when we made the move and most of the active users here weren't around then. It has no bearing as a "standard" to determine if someone is a part of the Wiki. Omega Tyrant 09:38, 31 October 2012 (EDT)

I think we should keep this. As OT says, a small minority of smashers are or have been active here, while the majority of them participate in other Smash sites like AiB. --RoyboyX Talk 19:49, 31 October 2012 (EDT)

Delete, tbh. It seems like it would get a bit complicated in the long run.--Starman125 (talk) 20:02, 31 October 2012 (EDT)

Elaborate on how it would get "complicated". Omega Tyrant 20:07, 31 October 2012 (EDT)

Does this mean only users who are in the active user list are considered participating?Brawls of fury (talk) 09:20, 1 November 2012 (EDT)

No, because RJM/Randall00 has long disappeared from the active user list, and KoRoBeNiKi's probably dropped off it too. Toast ltimatum 09:42, 1 November 2012 (EDT)

Do we even have the concrete standards in what is considered "participating on SmashWiki" yet?Brawls of fury (talk) 09:52, 1 November 2012 (EDT) I'm not sure anymore which I would support. Brawls of fury (talk) 11:03, 1 November 2012 (EDT)

What is so difficult to understand what constitutes as having been active and a part of the community? Omega Tyrant 10:28, 1 November 2012 (EDT)

There are smashers who occasionally edit this wiki, and there are smashers who have been instrumental in its development. Mew2King, Isai, Simna, and others have occasionally shown up, but myself, Randall, OT, etc. have actually had major impacts on this wiki. That is what this category is for. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 12:26, 1 November 2012 (EDT)