Category talk:Flags

I Need a Denmark Flag for a Tournement results table Nocturnal Dragon (talk) 15:22, 18 July 2012 (EDT)

Missing flags?

I noticed there are a bunch of European sovereign states that don't have their own flags (namely Belgium, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Andorra, Monaco, San Marino, and most of Eastern Europe) that don't have their own flags. Is it because people don't play Smash there? Awesome Cardinal 2000 18:23, 9 March 2014 (EDT)

Well currently we only upload flags if we have a need for them, so if we don't have any smashers with pages or tournament results from a country, we don't need their flag. Toomai Glittershine The Frivolous 19:30, 9 March 2014 (EDT)

I need a Belgium flag for the results on this page. Scr7(talk · contribs) 13:21, 1 May 2014 (EDT)

Due to that, I uploaded Belgium's. Red (talk) 13:25, 1 May 2014 (EDT)

Latin America

Just as we have flag representing Europe, I believe we need one to represent Latin America, which is needed for articles that include release dates and such. For some reason (not only on this wiki), it's always said "This thing was released on this date in North America/the United States and Canada", ignoring the rest of the continent, even though most game releases in Latin America are on the same date as in those two countries.

Now, there is a problem. There is no actual flag for Latin America or a recognizable organization that includes all of its countries, like there is for Europe. Bulbapedia, for example, uses what seems to be a flag for CELAC, however, there is no actual CELAC flag and that's just its logo over a colored background, which is also representing just one of the several organizations that try to embrace the Latin American countries. There have been proposals for a common flag like this one, though.

The thing is, it'd be too hard to combine all of the Latin American flags in one rectangle (it already looks messy here, in my opinion), or to use all flags separately, so I'm not sure about what we could do. I'd appreciate any ideas or opinions, since I still believe we need something to represent Latin America. --Gabo 2oo (talk) 20:09, 11 November 2014 (EST)

Quebec flag

We noticed that the Quebec Flag is missing in the database. Although this is a minor problem (since flags are supposed to reflect nationality, not the province you are born). there are players that identify themselves more with a place than another. We would like to request if it was possible to add them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wtvdd (talk • contribs) 10:48, 26 March 2015 (EDT)

Well I guess it would depend what you'd be using it for. If you want it for a template or something, then sure. But for smasher infoboxes, I feel it would set a precedent for any province or state being entitied to their own flags, and I don't really see the usefulness of that. Besides, we have categories like Category:Quebec smashers. Toomai Glittershine The Cloronic 11:45, 26 March 2015 (EDT)

Quebec flag... again ?

Oh hi, it's been a while that I checked my account.

I wanted to reply to the initial conversation but I'm not sure how the system works, sorry if this bothers the admins lol

I'm requesting once again to add the Quebec flag to the DB. A lot of said "Canadian Smashers" don't necessarily identify themselves with the whole country. Quebec in a really different place from the entire North American continent, culturally and socially and a lot of local players would rather see their names beside a QC flag rather than being in the giant pack of Canadian flags, specially for Canadian Major tournaments.

Adding the QC flag doesn't add a precedent for other states/provinces to have their own flag, as Quebec is recognized by the Government of Canada as a nation (source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Québécois_nation_motion).

It's an issue for a lot of Smashers, since they are always overwhelmed by anglophone content and can't express their difference due people putting them in the same bag as other regions of Canada. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wtvdd (talk • contribs) 19:45, January 4, 2016‎

Luxembourg

I could add it but... I'm not sure. The consensus is left to Toomai. -- BeepYou, a user with no grammar at all :v (talk) 16:18, 7 April 2016 (EDT)

Definitely need to add the Luxembourg flag, Luxembourg is surprisingly pretty good, and their players travel a lot, to many different countries in Europe. TraX got 25th at BEAST 6 for instance, and LuiS usually gets good results in Germany and the Netherlands. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tetra (talk • contribs) 16:28, June 29, 2016

Trinidad and Tobago

The Rio de Janeiro eGames Showcase 2016 tournament took place recently, and there was a player from Trinidad and Tobago, Wabz, who participated. We might not see such a flag being put to use again for a long time, but given the ambitious and Olympics-esque nature of this invitational tournament, it'd be great to have all players rocking their proper country flags in the article, in my opinion. Zakken (talk) 23:05, 17 August 2016 (EDT)

Done. In the future, if there's one we need that we don't have yet, you can simply upload a clean version of the flag (like I got from Wikipedia) to a filename like "File:Flag of ____.png" and it should work just fine. Miles (talk) 23:45, 17 August 2016 (EDT)

Singapore

A Singapore flag has been requested by Riko for the YouCMe smasher article. Pokebub (talk) 20:59, 23 January 2018 (EST)

Andorra

Didn't even know this country existed until I discovered it when I was creating a page for a European tournament. Wikipedia file here. Pokebub (talk) 02:39, 24 July 2018 (EDT)

I'd also like to request one for Malta. Pokebub (talk) 03:29, 24 July 2018 (EDT)

India

We appear to be missing India's flag. I'd like to request it for use on DreamHack Mumbai 2018. Pokebub (talk) 23:15, 13 November 2018 (EST)

UK constituent countries flags

This discussion is in regards to a proposed change on SmashWiki. The discussion must first meet with a consensus before it is implemented.

As we have discussed on Discord prior to updating the policy about UK regional flags, the constituent countries (England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland), despite being referred to as "countries" in both common and legal usage, are not actually independent or autonomous entities.

• The UK is a bit of a political oddity in the modern international landscape, the only country with a somewhat comparable system I could find is the UAE. There are some kingdoms that have "constituent countries" within, such as the Netherlands and Denmark, that award much greater autonomy to their constituent countries (i.e. Aruba in the Netherlands, or Greenland in Denmark); this is perhaps more comparable to the political status of Gibraltar in practice. On the other hand, there are many federal countries (the United States, Canada, Switzerland, Belgium, Germany, Mexico, Russia, Australia and so on), that devolve to their subdivisions comparable (roughly, I don't want to get in the gritty details) to the power devolved to UK constituent countries, which calls into question how special, from a purely legislative standpoint, the political status of the UK is. In sport events and other international competitions, the constituent countries compete sometimes separately (soccer, rugby) and sometimes together (the Olympics, Eurovision); in actuality, Smash players don't really represent their country in competitions, and are often free agents, so any physical sports comparisons feel iffy. This first point is important to get across, but I don't want it to be the focus of the debate, since this isn't Wikipedia or a political sciences encyclopedia.
• It has been suggested on Discord that having regional flags for the UK allows for easier identification of players. While this is undeniably true, I don't see how this can't be applied to literally every country. Most relevantly, the United States is a large and populous country, with the largest competitive Smash scene in the world; a lot of players there rarely or never travel outside of the country, and many tournament feature almost exclusively American players. It would be arguably even more useful for the United States than for the United Kingdom to add state flags for easier identification. Of course I am not suggesting that we should start using US (or any other country) state flags, I am just using the US as an example of why allowing regional flags for UK and no one else for easier/more accurate identification is basically exceptionalism, since there are a lot of countries that would benefit from more specific regional identification, but of course I do not wish to open this slippery slope. And no, the UK is not the only country where people feel extremely strongly about their regional identities, if that needs to be stated.
• The new policy defines where it is appropriate to use a regional flag for the UK and where to use the national flag. However, there are hundreds (thousands?) of pages where these flags are used, in all likelihood they are used wrong in almost all of them. It would take a monumental effort to update them all, since it needs to be done manually on a per case basis, while if we switched to just the national flag, we could easily automate the process using a bot or creating redirects.

Based on the points I outlined above, I support using only the UK national flag going forward. I hope to hear as many opinions as possible on this, and I hope it doesn't get too heated! --Rdrfc (talk) 07:56, May 9, 2020 (EDT)

In previous discussions I was more opposed but after looking up some stuff myself I'm more neutral, leaning towards opposed. The UK is a country composed of 4 countries; no other country in the world has something like that. The United States have states and the UAE have emirates but they aren't separate countries. Therefore, we don't represent US smashers by their state flag nor UAE smashers with their emirate flags. On the other hand, the UK countries aren't 100% independent since they are still overall governed by the UK. It's really iffy defining whether they deserve to have their own flag or not on the wiki, but since the UK's the only country with a situation like this I don't see much of a problem using the regional flags for regional tournaments while using the UK flag for international tournaments.

One thing for sure, however, is that we shouldn't redirect the regional flags to the UK flag. As Toomai had said, several people had an issue with that in the past. CookiesCreme 09:35, May 9, 2020 (EDT)