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[[File:PopoDSpecialSSBU.gif|thumb|300px|Hitbox visualization showing Popo's down special, [[Blizzard]].]]
[[File:NanaDSpecialSSBU.gif|thumb|300px|Hitbox visualization showing Nana's down special, [[Blizzard]].]]
==Overview==
==Overview==
Each of the duo thrusts their empty hand forward, generating a miniature snowstorm from their palm. It's a high-committment, high-risk-high-reward utility move that unleashes a harshly damaging and highly active multihit, but leaves the Ice Climbers wide open if they miss. It's one of the duo's only midrange attacks, able to give them a chance at stuffing out even long ranged melee fighters such as [[Shulk (SSBU)|Shulk]] or [[Corrin (SSBU)|Corrin]]. Opponents hit with a high enough concentration of snow will be [[frozen]], and the time frame and quantity required for this effect become more lenient at higher percentages. Enough that just three or four hits can freeze somebody at kill percent.
The Ice Climbers' down special hasn't got combos in the traditional sense, there's far too much ending lag and too little [[hitstun]] for that. But it can be converted into nearly anything in their kit if the victim is frozen. The most reliable option is [[Ice Climbers (SSBU)/Up tilt|up tilt]], which not only frame traps opponents who 'escape the ice, but also leads to dangerous combos or simple kill confirms. At relatively high percents, a [[down throw]] can instead be followed up with a Blizzard to catch opponents attempting to [[Air dodge|airdodge]] or [[Directional influence|DI]] to escape. With good timing, the Ice Climbers can be [[Desynching|desynced]] while grabbing the [[edge]]. This allows them to pick two different getup options at once, making them difficult to [[Ledgetrapping|ledgetrap]]. What's more, if only one of the climbers is trapped successfully, the other can punish the opponent, turning an unfavorable situation into an advantageous one. This technique is often used to make the 2nd Climber use a [[Ice Climbers (SSBU)/Edge attack|getup attack]] while the 1st Climber safely gets up or jumps up to hit the opponent with a Blizzard. By desyncing them, the duo's down specials can be used one after the other, creating a constant barrage of ice that can cover most ledge getup options, rack up major damage against unsuspecting foes, and even wall out opponents who lacks a prioritized and disjointed move to combat it, forcing a predictable approach from above. A desynced Blizzard can also be used in tandem with [[Ice Climbers (SSBU)/Neutral special|Ice Shot]], attacking distant foes while Blizzard prevents the shots from being sent back at the climbers. The multihits of the partner climber's down special can lead to [[Grab|grabs]], but this is unreliable since a frozen opponent can't be grabbed. On top of its utility in zoning and ledge-trapping, a desynced series of blizzards can simply be used to harass opponents, dealing damage that sticks and often forcing them into an awkward position.
When it comes to edgeguarding, down special can be quite a potent option due to its large and long lasting coverage. Its ability to freeze its victims make it a major threat  against opponents susceptible to gimping, but offstage Blizzards aren't a common sight due to the risks of using it offstage and edgeguarding in general.
Upon isolation, Blizzard maintains most of its primary uses, but the risk-reward ratio is tipped moreso out of the lone climber's favor. Even at its lowest point, it's far from the worst down special in the game, and is quite good in its stronger base form.
==Hitboxes==
==Hitboxes==
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==Timing==
==Timing==
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!Blizzard generated
!Ice shards (clean hits)
|16, 21, 26, 31, 36, 41, 46, 51, 56
|16-17, 21-22, 26-27, 31-32, 36-37, 41-42, 46-47, 51-52, 56-57
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|18-21, 23-26, 28-31, 33-36, 38-41, 43-46, 48-51, 53-56, 58-61
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|-
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|16-24, 21-29, 26-34, 31-39, 36-44, 41-49, 46-54, 51-19, 56-64
|22-24, 27-29, 32-34, 37-39, 42-44, 47-49, 52-54, 57-59, 62-64
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==Parameters==
{|class="wikitable"
!Ice shard X/Y offsets
|[2, 1]
|-
!Travel speed
|2.8
|-
!Vertical acceleration
|0.125
|-
!Highest random angle deviation
|25°
|-
!Lowest random angle deviation
| -30°
|-
!Size multiplier of shatter effect from clanging
|0.8 to 1.3
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Latest revision as of 21:12, May 31, 2024

This article is about the hitbox visualization in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. For the move itself, see Blizzard.
Hitbox visualization showing Popo's down special, Blizzard.
Hitbox visualization showing Nana's down special, Blizzard.

OverviewEdit

Each of the duo thrusts their empty hand forward, generating a miniature snowstorm from their palm. It's a high-committment, high-risk-high-reward utility move that unleashes a harshly damaging and highly active multihit, but leaves the Ice Climbers wide open if they miss. It's one of the duo's only midrange attacks, able to give them a chance at stuffing out even long ranged melee fighters such as Shulk or Corrin. Opponents hit with a high enough concentration of snow will be frozen, and the time frame and quantity required for this effect become more lenient at higher percentages. Enough that just three or four hits can freeze somebody at kill percent.

The Ice Climbers' down special hasn't got combos in the traditional sense, there's far too much ending lag and too little hitstun for that. But it can be converted into nearly anything in their kit if the victim is frozen. The most reliable option is up tilt, which not only frame traps opponents who 'escape the ice, but also leads to dangerous combos or simple kill confirms. At relatively high percents, a down throw can instead be followed up with a Blizzard to catch opponents attempting to airdodge or DI to escape. With good timing, the Ice Climbers can be desynced while grabbing the edge. This allows them to pick two different getup options at once, making them difficult to ledgetrap. What's more, if only one of the climbers is trapped successfully, the other can punish the opponent, turning an unfavorable situation into an advantageous one. This technique is often used to make the 2nd Climber use a getup attack while the 1st Climber safely gets up or jumps up to hit the opponent with a Blizzard. By desyncing them, the duo's down specials can be used one after the other, creating a constant barrage of ice that can cover most ledge getup options, rack up major damage against unsuspecting foes, and even wall out opponents who lacks a prioritized and disjointed move to combat it, forcing a predictable approach from above. A desynced Blizzard can also be used in tandem with Ice Shot, attacking distant foes while Blizzard prevents the shots from being sent back at the climbers. The multihits of the partner climber's down special can lead to grabs, but this is unreliable since a frozen opponent can't be grabbed. On top of its utility in zoning and ledge-trapping, a desynced series of blizzards can simply be used to harass opponents, dealing damage that sticks and often forcing them into an awkward position.

When it comes to edgeguarding, down special can be quite a potent option due to its large and long lasting coverage. Its ability to freeze its victims make it a major threat against opponents susceptible to gimping, but offstage Blizzards aren't a common sight due to the risks of using it offstage and edgeguarding in general.

Upon isolation, Blizzard maintains most of its primary uses, but the risk-reward ratio is tipped moreso out of the lone climber's favor. Even at its lowest point, it's far from the worst down special in the game, and is quite good in its stronger base form.

HitboxesEdit

ID Part Rehit rate Damage SD Angle Angle type BK KS FKV Set weight Radius Bone Offset SDI× T% Clang Rebound Effect Type G A Sound Direct Hit bits Hit part Blockable Reflectable Absorbable Flinchless No GFX Heedless
Clean hit
0 0 0 1.8% 0   Speed-based 10 50 0   5.0 top 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.5× 1.5× 0%               Freeze   All All            
Mid hit
0 0 0 1.0% 0   Speed-based 10 50 0   4.0 top 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.5× 1.5× 0%               Freeze   All All            
Late hit
0 0 0 1.0% 0   Speed-based 10 20 0   2.5 top 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.5× 1.5× 0%               Freeze   All All            

TimingEdit

Ice shards (clean hits) 16-17, 21-22, 26-27, 31-32, 36-37, 41-42, 46-47, 51-52, 56-57
Ice shards (mid hits) 18-21, 23-26, 28-31, 33-36, 38-41, 43-46, 48-51, 53-56, 58-61
Ice shards (late hits) 22-24, 27-29, 32-34, 37-39, 42-44, 47-49, 52-54, 57-59, 62-64
Interruptible 85
Animation length 89
                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                 
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Lag time
 
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Interruptible

ParametersEdit

Ice shard X/Y offsets [2, 1]
Travel speed 2.8
Vertical acceleration 0.125
Highest random angle deviation 25°
Lowest random angle deviation -30°
Size multiplier of shatter effect from clanging 0.8 to 1.3