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(→Overview: Finally got back to this. Something that has a low chance of working doesn't make for a good strategy. Too much emphasis on up special, this is side special. Also contained writing as if this was a comprehensive Marth article/video instead of standalone) |
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{{ArticleIcons|ssbu=y}} | {{ArticleIcons|ssbu=y}} | ||
{{competitive expertise}} | {{competitive expertise}} | ||
==Hitbox | ==Hitbox visualizations== | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
! !! | !Type!!First!!Second!!Third!!Fourth | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Up | !Up | ||
| || [[File:MarthSSpecialHit2UpSSBU.gif|180px]] || [[File:MarthSSpecialHit3UpSSBU.gif|180px]] || [[File:MarthSSpecialHit4UpSSBU.gif|180px]] | | || [[File:MarthSSpecialHit2UpSSBU.gif|180px]] || [[File:MarthSSpecialHit3UpSSBU.gif|180px]] || [[File:MarthSSpecialHit4UpSSBU.gif|180px]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Forward | ||
| [[File:MarthSSpecialHit1SSBU.gif|180px]] || [[File:MarthSSpecialHit2SSBU.gif|180px]] || [[File:MarthSSpecialHit3SSBU.gif|180px]] || [[File:MarthSSpecialHit4SSBU.gif|180px]] | | [[File:MarthSSpecialHit1SSBU.gif|180px]] || [[File:MarthSSpecialHit2SSBU.gif|180px]] || [[File:MarthSSpecialHit3SSBU.gif|180px]] || [[File:MarthSSpecialHit4SSBU.gif|180px]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
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==Hitboxes== | ==Hitboxes== | ||
===First | ===First hit=== | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage=2.5% | |damage=2.5% | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=25 | |bk=25 | ||
|ks=30 | |ks=30 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|setweight=t | |||
|r=6.5 | |r=6.5 | ||
|bn=top | |bn=top | ||
| Line 46: | Line 46: | ||
|effect=Slash | |effect=Slash | ||
|sfx=Slash | |sfx=Slash | ||
|slvl= | |slvl=S | ||
|clang=f | |clang=f | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
| Line 54: | Line 54: | ||
|damage=3.0% | |damage=3.0% | ||
|angle=90 | |angle=90 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=25 | |bk=25 | ||
|ks=30 | |ks=30 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|setweight=t | |||
|r=5.5 | |r=5.5 | ||
|bn=top | |bn=top | ||
| Line 66: | Line 68: | ||
|type=Sword | |type=Sword | ||
|effect=Slash | |effect=Slash | ||
|sfx= | |sfx=Marth Sword | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
|clang=f | |clang=f | ||
| Line 75: | Line 77: | ||
|damage=2.5% | |damage=2.5% | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=25 | |bk=25 | ||
|ks=30 | |ks=30 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r= | |setweight=t | ||
|r=5.5 | |||
|bn=top | |bn=top | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
| Line 88: | Line 92: | ||
|effect=Slash | |effect=Slash | ||
|sfx=Slash | |sfx=Slash | ||
|slvl= | |slvl=S | ||
|clang=f | |clang=f | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
}} | }} | ||
|} | |} | ||
===Second | ===Second hits=== | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Up|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage=2.5% | |damage=2.5% | ||
|angle=90 | |angle=90 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=30 | |bk=30 | ||
|ks=30 | |ks=30 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|setweight=t | |||
|r=4.5 | |r=4.5 | ||
|bn=top | |bn=top | ||
| Line 123: | Line 128: | ||
|damage=3.0% | |damage=3.0% | ||
|angle=110 | |angle=110 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=30 | |bk=30 | ||
|ks=30 | |ks=30 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|setweight=t | |||
|r=3.0 | |r=3.0 | ||
|bn=top | |bn=top | ||
| Line 135: | Line 142: | ||
|type=Sword | |type=Sword | ||
|effect=Slash | |effect=Slash | ||
|sfx= | |sfx=Marth Sword | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
|clang=f | |clang=f | ||
| Line 143: | Line 150: | ||
|id=2 | |id=2 | ||
|damage=2.5% | |damage=2.5% | ||
|angle= | |angle=60 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=30 | |bk=30 | ||
|ks=30 | |ks=30 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|setweight=t | |||
|r=4.5 | |r=4.5 | ||
|bn=top | |bn=top | ||
| Line 161: | Line 170: | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Forward|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage=2.5% | |damage=2.5% | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=30 | |bk=30 | ||
|ks=25 | |ks=25 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|setweight=t | |||
|r=6.5 | |r=6.5 | ||
|bn=top | |bn=top | ||
| Line 188: | Line 199: | ||
|damage=3.0% | |damage=3.0% | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=30 | |bk=30 | ||
|ks=25 | |ks=25 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|setweight=t | |||
|sd=1.0 | |sd=1.0 | ||
|r=5.5 | |r=5.5 | ||
| Line 201: | Line 214: | ||
|type=Sword | |type=Sword | ||
|effect=Slash | |effect=Slash | ||
|sfx=Marth | |sfx=Marth Sword | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
|clang=f | |clang=f | ||
| Line 210: | Line 223: | ||
|damage=2.5% | |damage=2.5% | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=30 | |bk=30 | ||
|ks=25 | |ks=25 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|setweight=t | |||
|sd=1.0 | |sd=1.0 | ||
|r=4.5 | |r=4.5 | ||
| Line 228: | Line 243: | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
}} | }} | ||
|} | |} | ||
===Third | ===Third hits=== | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Up|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage=3.0% | |damage=3.0% | ||
|angle=65 | |angle=65 | ||
|bk= | |af=3 | ||
|ks= | |bk=55 | ||
|ks=30 | |||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|setweight=t | |||
|r=4.5 | |r=4.5 | ||
|bn=top | |bn=top | ||
| Line 260: | Line 276: | ||
|damage=4.0% | |damage=4.0% | ||
|angle=85 | |angle=85 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=55 | |bk=55 | ||
|ks=30 | |ks=30 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|setweight=t | |||
|sd=1.0 | |sd=1.0 | ||
|r=3.0 | |r=3.0 | ||
| Line 273: | Line 291: | ||
|type=Sword | |type=Sword | ||
|effect=Slash | |effect=Slash | ||
|sfx=Marth | |sfx=Marth Sword | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
|clang=f | |clang=f | ||
| Line 282: | Line 300: | ||
|damage=3.0% | |damage=3.0% | ||
|angle=35 | |angle=35 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=55 | |bk=55 | ||
|ks=50 | |ks=50 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|setweight=t | |||
|sd=1.0 | |sd=1.0 | ||
|r=4.5 | |r=4.5 | ||
| Line 300: | Line 320: | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Forward|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage=3.0% | |damage=3.0% | ||
|angle=50 | |angle=50 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=55 | |bk=55 | ||
|ks=30 | |ks=30 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|setweight=t | |||
|r=6.5 | |r=6.5 | ||
|bn=top | |bn=top | ||
| Line 327: | Line 349: | ||
|damage=4.0% | |damage=4.0% | ||
|angle=55 | |angle=55 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=55 | |bk=55 | ||
|ks=30 | |ks=30 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|sd=1 | |setweight=t | ||
|sd=1.0 | |||
|r=5.5 | |r=5.5 | ||
|bn=top | |bn=top | ||
| Line 340: | Line 364: | ||
|type=Sword | |type=Sword | ||
|effect=Slash | |effect=Slash | ||
|sfx=Marth | |sfx=Marth Sword | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
|clang=f | |clang=f | ||
| Line 349: | Line 373: | ||
|damage=3.0% | |damage=3.0% | ||
|angle=40 | |angle=40 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=55 | |bk=55 | ||
|ks=30 | |ks=30 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|setweight=t | |||
|sd=1.0 | |sd=1.0 | ||
|r=5.5 | |r=5.5 | ||
| Line 367: | Line 393: | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Down|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage=3.0% | |damage=3.0% | ||
|angle=52 | |angle=52 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks=30 | |ks=30 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|setweight=t | |||
|r=4.8 | |r=4.8 | ||
|bn=top | |bn=top | ||
| Line 394: | Line 422: | ||
|damage=4.0% | |damage=4.0% | ||
|angle=52 | |angle=52 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=40 | |bk=40 | ||
|ks=30 | |ks=30 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|setweight=t | |||
|sd=1.0 | |sd=1.0 | ||
|r=3.0 | |r=3.0 | ||
| Line 412: | Line 442: | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
}} | }} | ||
|} | |} | ||
===Fourth | ===Fourth hits=== | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Up|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage=5.0% | |damage=5.0% | ||
|angle=79 | |angle=79 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=85 | |bk=85 | ||
|ks=40 | |ks=40 | ||
| Line 444: | Line 474: | ||
|damage=7.0% | |damage=7.0% | ||
|angle=87 | |angle=87 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=80 | |bk=80 | ||
|ks=40 | |ks=40 | ||
| Line 457: | Line 488: | ||
|type=Sword | |type=Sword | ||
|effect=Slash | |effect=Slash | ||
|sfx=Marth | |sfx=Marth Sword | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
|clang=f | |clang=f | ||
| Line 466: | Line 497: | ||
|damage=5.0% | |damage=5.0% | ||
|angle=79 | |angle=79 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=85 | |bk=85 | ||
|ks=40 | |ks=40 | ||
| Line 488: | Line 520: | ||
|damage=7.0% | |damage=7.0% | ||
|angle=87 | |angle=87 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=80 | |bk=80 | ||
|ks=40 | |ks=40 | ||
| Line 501: | Line 534: | ||
|type=Sword | |type=Sword | ||
|effect=Slash | |effect=Slash | ||
|sfx=Marth | |sfx=Marth Sword | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
|clang=f | |clang=f | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Forward|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage=4.0% | |damage=4.0% | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=74 | |bk=74 | ||
|ks=103 | |ks=103 | ||
| Line 519: | Line 553: | ||
|ypos=9.0 | |ypos=9.0 | ||
|zpos=11.7 | |zpos=11.7 | ||
|sd= | |sd=5.0 | ||
|ff=1.0 | |ff=1.0 | ||
|type=Sword | |type=Sword | ||
| Line 532: | Line 566: | ||
|damage=6.0% | |damage=6.0% | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=85 | |bk=85 | ||
|ks=125 | |ks=125 | ||
| Line 544: | Line 579: | ||
|type=Sword | |type=Sword | ||
|effect=Slash | |effect=Slash | ||
|sfx=Marth | |sfx=Marth Sword | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
|clang=f | |clang=f | ||
| Line 553: | Line 588: | ||
|damage=4.0% | |damage=4.0% | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=74 | |bk=74 | ||
|ks=103 | |ks=103 | ||
| Line 561: | Line 597: | ||
|ypos=9.0 | |ypos=9.0 | ||
|zpos=5.0 | |zpos=5.0 | ||
|sd=5 | |sd=5.0 | ||
|ff=1.0 | |ff=1.0 | ||
|type=Sword | |type=Sword | ||
| Line 570: | Line 606: | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Down, hits 1-4|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage=2.0% | |damage=2.0% | ||
|angle=80 | |angle=80 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=2 | |bk=2 | ||
|ks=20 | |ks=20 | ||
| Line 597: | Line 634: | ||
|damage=2.0% | |damage=2.0% | ||
|angle=80 | |angle=80 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=2 | |bk=2 | ||
|ks=20 | |ks=20 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r= | |r=4.0 | ||
|bn=top | |bn=top | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
| Line 619: | Line 657: | ||
|damage=2.0% | |damage=2.0% | ||
|angle=80 | |angle=80 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=2 | |bk=2 | ||
|ks=20 | |ks=20 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=5 | |r=4.5 | ||
|bn=top | |bn=top | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
|ypos=6.0 | |ypos=6.0 | ||
|zpos=6.0 | |zpos=6.0 | ||
|ff=0.5 | |ff=0.5 | ||
|sdi=1.0 | |sdi=1.0 | ||
| Line 637: | Line 675: | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Down, hit 5|42}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage=4.0% | |damage=4.0% | ||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=57 | |bk=57 | ||
|ks=90 | |ks=90 | ||
| Line 664: | Line 703: | ||
|damage=5.0% | |damage=5.0% | ||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=60 | |bk=60 | ||
|ks=90 | |ks=90 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r= | |r=3.0 | ||
|bn=top | |bn=top | ||
|xpos=0.0 | |xpos=0.0 | ||
| Line 677: | Line 717: | ||
|type=Sword | |type=Sword | ||
|effect=Stab | |effect=Stab | ||
|sfx=Marth | |sfx=Marth Sword | ||
|slvl=L | |slvl=L | ||
|clang=f | |clang=f | ||
| Line 686: | Line 726: | ||
|damage=4.0% | |damage=4.0% | ||
|angle=30 | |angle=30 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=57 | |bk=57 | ||
|ks=90 | |ks=90 | ||
| Line 694: | Line 735: | ||
|ypos=5.0 | |ypos=5.0 | ||
|zpos=5.0 | |zpos=5.0 | ||
|ff=1.0 | |ff=1.0 | ||
|sdi=1.0 | |sdi=1.0 | ||
| Line 705: | Line 745: | ||
}} | }} | ||
|} | |} | ||
==Timing== | ==Timing== | ||
=== | ===First hit=== | ||
{|class="wikitable" | {|class="wikitable" | ||
!Hitboxes | !Hitboxes | ||
| Line 714: | Line 755: | ||
|12 | |12 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Interruptible grounded | !Continuability window | ||
|2-30 | |||
|- | |||
!Interruptible (grounded) | |||
|40 | |||
|- | |||
!Interruptible (aerial) | |||
|30 | |||
|- | |||
!Animation length | |||
|66 | |||
|} | |||
{{FrameStripStart}} | |||
!Grounded {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3|e=HitboxContinuableS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=28|s=LagContinuableE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=27}} | |||
|- | |||
!Aerial {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=8}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3|e=HitboxContinuableS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=18|s=LagContinuableE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=37}} | |||
|- | |||
!Continuability {{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Continuable|c=29}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=36}} | |||
{{FrameStripEnd}} | |||
===Second hit=== | |||
====Upward==== | |||
{|class="wikitable" | |||
!Hitboxes | |||
|4-7 | |||
|- | |||
!Earliest continuable | |||
|8 | |||
|- | |||
!Continuability window | |||
|2-29 | |||
|- | |||
!Interruptible (grounded) | |||
|39 | |39 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Interruptible aerial | !Interruptible (aerial) | ||
| | |41 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Animation length | |||
|51 | |||
|} | |} | ||
{{FrameStripStart}} | {{FrameStripStart}} | ||
!Grounded {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=3}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=4|e=HitboxContinuableS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=31|s=LagContinuableE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=13}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
!Aerial {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=3}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=4|e=HitboxContinuableS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=33|s=LagContinuableE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=11}} | |||
|- | |||
!Continuability {{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Continuable|c=28}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=22}} | |||
{{FrameStripEnd}} | {{FrameStripEnd}} | ||
=== | |||
====Forward==== | |||
{|class="wikitable" | {|class="wikitable" | ||
! | !Hitboxes | ||
|5-7 | |5-7 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Earliest continuable | ||
|8 | |8 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Continuability window | ||
| | |2-29 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Interruptible (grounded) | ||
|4- | |39 | ||
|- | |||
!Interruptible (aerial) | |||
|41 | |||
|- | |||
!Animation length | |||
|48 | |||
|} | |||
{{FrameStripStart}} | |||
!Grounded {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=4}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3|e=HitboxContinuableS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=31|s=LagContinuableE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=10}} | |||
|- | |||
!Aerial {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=4}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3|e=HitboxContinuableS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=33|s=LagContinuableE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=8}} | |||
|- | |||
!Continuability {{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Continuable|c=28}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=19}} | |||
{{FrameStripEnd}} | |||
===Third hit=== | |||
====Upward==== | |||
{|class="wikitable" | |||
!Hitboxes | |||
|5-7 | |||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Earliest continuable | ||
|8 | |8 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Continuability window | ||
| | |2-24 | ||
|- | |||
!Interruptible (grounded) | |||
|44 | |||
|- | |||
!Interruptible (aerial) | |||
|47 | |||
|- | |- | ||
!Animation length | |||
|51 | |||
|} | |} | ||
{{FrameStripStart}} | {{FrameStripStart}} | ||
!Grounded {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=4}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3|e=HitboxContinuableS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=36|s=LagContinuableE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=8}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
!Aerial {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=4}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3|e=HitboxContinuableS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=39|s=LagContinuableE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=5}} | |||
|- | |||
!Continuability {{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Continuable|c=23}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=27}} | |||
{{FrameStripEnd}} | {{FrameStripEnd}} | ||
=== | |||
====Forward==== | |||
{|class="wikitable" | {|class="wikitable" | ||
! | !Hitboxes | ||
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! | !Aerial {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=3}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3|e=HitboxContinuableS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=40|s=LagContinuableE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=7}} | ||
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===Fourth hit=== | |||
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==Trivia== | ==Trivia== | ||
* Despite being a | *Despite being a forward-angled attack, the second hit's standard variant is named "SpecialS2Lw" (or "SpecialAirS2Lw" in the case of the aerial version) within the game's files, using the suffix of the downward-angled attacks instead. | ||
{{MvSubNavMarth|g=SSBU}} | {{MvSubNavMarth|g=SSBU}} | ||
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Hitbox visualizations[edit]
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Dancing Blade can be used as a standard combo ender. It should be avoided in neutral as it is very unsafe on shield, with most opponents having enough time to dash forward and grab before Marth can jump. His safest option if a non-ending hit does hit a shield is to continue using Dancing Blade, delaying hits in hope that the opponent drops their shield. It is Marth's third fastest out-of-shield option, tied with neutral aerial. It is slightly easier to perform than up aerial (second fastest by 1 frame) and doesn't leave him as vulnerable as whiffing his fastest out-of-shield, up special.
The down-angle ender provides the most damage. The side-angle ender sweetspot can KO very early on, being able to KO several characters below 70% at ledge (30-50% earlier than the non-sweetspot hits). The side-angle ender's sweetspot can be hard to hit as it has lower priority than the weaker hits, requiring the attack to be delayed for the highest chance of hitting the sweetspot. Because of various other factors such as rage and directional influence, hitting the sweetspot is inconsistent and it is best to plan around a non-sweetspot hitting instead. Forward tilt is a good, grounded alternative if the side-angle ender's sweetspot is too difficult to land.
The first hit can be used to attack an opponent recovering along the stage, making it a safer alternative to up special (which has the potential to face the wrong way and likely lead to an SD). It also serves as a mixup option, as the tech timing is different than that of an up special along with requiring different reaction timing, potentially resulting in the opponent buffering an air dodge if they've been conditioned to expect up specials. The first hit can also be used to reorient Marth to properly use an aerial or correct his direction to more safely perform an up special.
While recovering, the first hit can be used to slightly halt his downward movement. This can make his recovery slightly less predictable, along with being much safer against opponents that have high-commitment edgeguards or to intercept opponents who go for an offstage KO.
Hitboxes[edit]
First hit[edit]
| ID | Part | Rehit rate | Damage | SD | Angle | Angle type | BK | KS | FKV | Set weight | Radius | Bone | Offset | H× | SDI× | T% | Clang | Rebound | Effect | Type | G | A | Sound | Direct | Hit bits | Hit part | Blockable | Reflectable | Absorbable | Flinchless | No GFX | Heedless | ||
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| 0 | 0 | 0 | 2.5% | 0 |  |
Forward | 25 | 30 | 0 |  |
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Timing[edit]
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| Continuability window | 2-30 |
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| Continuability window | 2-29 |
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| Continuability window | 2-29 |
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| Earliest continuable | 8 |
| Continuability window | 2-24 |
| Interruptible (grounded) | 44 |
| Interruptible (aerial) | 47 |
| Animation length | 51 |
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| Continuability window | 2-24 |
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| Interruptible (aerial) | 47 |
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| Continuability window | 2-24 |
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| Interruptible | 56 |
| Animation length | 75 |
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| Hit 5 | 19-21 |
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Hitbox |
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.png){kind=small} .png){kind=small} Earliest continuable point |
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Parameters[edit]
| Horizontal speed multiplier on startup | 0.5 |
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| Added vertical speed in the air | 1.4 |
Trivia[edit]
- Despite being a forward-angled attack, the second hit's standard variant is named "SpecialS2Lw" (or "SpecialAirS2Lw" in the case of the aerial version) within the game's files, using the suffix of the downward-angled attacks instead.
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