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Please list the names/IP's of potential vandals here. Also, if possible, tell me the page(s) they vandalized so that I can verify the claim and assess the damage. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 02:20, 28 June 2008 (UTC) I don't know but I have gotten messages of snake's codec messages changed i'll check it out. Darkness studios Help desk (talk) 04:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC) Yet another vandal! I pity you, Chawk, having to ban all of these. He's just adding in all completely stupid comments on the "Did you know?" template. ~Teh Blue Blur~~You're too slow!~ 18:23, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

This guy's been messing up a random smasher page for no reason, insulting him and calling him a Jew. ~Teh Blue Blur~~You're too slow!~ 10:58, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

This guy's removing all content from the Tier list for no apparent reason. ~Teh Blue Blur~~You're too slow!~ 15:43, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

This Guy's been vandalizing Snake's Codec Messages page and swapping quotes with ridiculous words that are completely unacceptable. So, please ban him. (I'm working on undoing his damage.) Thanks. :) --~Teh Blue Blur~A revolution begins. 19:30, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/2good = vandal of smasher pages. GutripperSpeak

I do not know if you would call this vandal or not, but some of the articles has made do not seem relevant to the wiki. ClonedPickle 04:31, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, made another irrelevant article: [[Best falco on the west coast]. ClonedPickle 07:31, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

If you look at This user's contributions, the only kinds he has made is editing his userpage saying "smashwiki and its mods fail, kthanxbai." ClonedPickle 06:06, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Ban this guy.--Bek The Conqueror (talk) 22:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/ Another sockpuppet. This is far beyond annoying now. MarioGalaxyMay Guthix be with you... 21:50, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

This really should be obvious, but User:African American Ninjakoopa just owned/vandalized the wiki. Hard. 13375poolR (talk) 07:16, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Set phasers to maximum. Bek The Conqueror (talk) 19:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC) This guy is inserting false information on SSB4.--Bek (talk) 16:58, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey look, it's a vandal! He's doing work on Smasher pages such as changing their names and mains. Toomai Glittershine eXemplary Logic 01:47, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

A vandal! The article about smashboards/Smash World Forums/SWF User:Firewario User talk:Firewario 17:10 9th April 2009 (UTC)

Ban and ban. The second "ban" is for his extremely disrespectful and offensive message on his talk page. Happy banning. --Bek (talk) 18:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

This guy's stuff has all been reverted thus far, but he hasn't been banned yet. Happy blocking.--Bek (talk) 15:09, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Vandal and my first time using my rollback muscle on this wiki. Expect to see even more vandals dumped here by me in the future.--Bek (talk) 00:51, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Vandal. You know the drill.--Bek (talk) 22:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

This dude is an obvious one. Toomai Glittershine The Table Designer 18:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

[1]. – Defiant Elements +talk 04:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

[2] in Diddy Kong (SSBB). user:Firewario user talk:Firewario 14:15 30th April 2009 (UTC)

[3] he is replacing special moves with fake names. User:Firewario user talk:Firewario 9:21 16th May 2009 (UTC)

[4] Some immature person who thinks he's being funny.--Bek (talk) 02:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


Shouldn't both of BNK's RfR's be together. I mean, KP's are, and so are ParaGoomba's. It saves article space. Toon Ganondorf (t c)

Then do it and I'll delete the redirect. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 16:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC) has vandalised SSBM article. User:Firewario talk 17:21 26th April 2009 (UTC)


King Dedede's forward smash does actually a max of 35%, not 33%(that's on training move if you didn't know, training mode attacks does slightly less damage). The same goes for Bowser (max of 48-49% and not 46%) and Ike (max of 32%). user:Firewario February 3rd 21:24 UTC +1

I'm not questioning the facts, but when your grammar and syntax are so bad that no one can make heads or tails of your writing, it usually gets reverted. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 21:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


Almost all of the sockpuppets in the past few days have left a message on my page saying what obvious contribution they added to an article. Here are a few of them:
The last one admitted it's the same one as an old IP who brawled me before (don't ask, long story, a month or two ago). Can you semi-protect my talk page so I don't keep getting messages like the ones these IPs (all the same person) gave me? MarioGalaxyMay Guthix be with you... 23:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Protecting pages is not to be done lightly, and especially not something like user talk pages. Especially when the comments are about wiki. So, at best I see this request as unnecessary. --Shadowcrest 00:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Sky already blocked some of these IPs, apparently realizing that they were sockpuppets. C. Hawk seems to be tired of this too, as seen on one of the IP's talk pages. MarioGalaxyMay Guthix be with you... 00:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
And what if I disagree with any or all of those bannings? --Shadowcrest 00:24, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, since you're a sysop, I can't do anything about it. Either way, I got to go. It's sysops' call, not mine. MarioGalaxyMay Guthix be with you... 00:26, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


This Friedbeef1 Love 22:21, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Vandal Attack[edit]

I just thought I'd let you know that there was a vandal attck yesterday (to the SSBB fighter info pages). I have reverted all of the vandalism single handedly and I have got the IP adresses that were the cause of it:


If you could block those IP addresses that would be great. Just so you know the things that were done was mainly names of characters being changed for example: Ike was changed to Ike th F***ing retard, and zero suit samus was changed to SEXY BOBBIE LADY, and that is only 2 examples of at least 8-10.--MỸŠŦЄЯỸЊӘҒҒ TALK 02:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

THat's fine Heff, but you don't have to tell them what the vandals did, just who they are, CHawk can find out for himself. GutripperSpeak

Image difficulties[edit]

Yeah, sorry to be kind of demanding, or whiny, but would you please delete Image:Bracket Platinum Blade Tournament.gif, (couldn't really place a link to the page without having the whole thing on your talk page)? I tried to upload a new version, but something messed up, and it didn'twork right, then I tried to name it something new, but I was told it was a duplicate, so If you would just get rid of it, and from now on I guess I'll only post final versions of stuff like that to avoid trouble like this from happening.

IrvThaSol a.k.a Ungod (talk to me) 23:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Marking it for deletion will be enough. Admins regularly check the candidates for speedy deletion and deletion. Also, placing around an images name will put the link but not the picture. GutripperSpeak
Thanks, IrvThaSol a.k.a Ungod (talk to me) 23:10, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


I gotchya. By the way (I've mentioned this many times in summaries whilst adding D tags to spam talk pages), we need to make a similar policy to QDV about stuff like that, but I don't have a good name for it. The point of it is to encourage users not to add discussion to spam/vandal/flame pages so that gives the Admin less to delete. You have to admit, it must be really annoying deleting the article then the talk page with comments from users like "We don't need this page", treating it like it deserves a chance to stay at all. So what do you say? Blue Ninjakoopa 03:15, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't think a full fledged policy is needed. I think QDV is good enough to include that. If you want to add it in and/or ask people not to put stuff on the talk pages that would be a good solution. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 06:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

"video namespace"[edit]

This is a new extension activated by default on Wikia wikis. I personally don't appreciate it, and I've noticed that you've deleted more than a few; i.e. that it only invites the videos we don't want. You should have gotten a message about it through WikiaMessages. Can I contact Wikia and ask them to turn it off? --Sky (t · c · w) 03:16, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

I'll just throw in my opinion: either turn it off or create a very strict policy about uploading them, i.e. only for mainspace, and then more specific requirements. Miles (talk) 03:18, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't know why we need people to be able to upload videos. Nine times out of ten, we don't need any videos and the rest of the time they can just be embedded. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 04:43, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Completely agree. You have my blessing to contact Kyle whenever. --Shadowcrest 19:53, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


Sorry I wasn't there... I am now if you need me. --Shadowcrest 01:18, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Fragbait.JPG[edit]

I have never uploaded this picture before and it is being used on my Smasher Page. Pages such as Affinity's and Steeler's are using similar pictures, so why did mine get deleted? A revert would be appreciated, or at least a decent explanation. Doadrin (talk) 00:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

What, you are an all powerful admin so you don't have to respond to users? Thats cool man, I'll reup it my damn self. Doadrin (talk) 05:45, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I didn't respond because I haven't been on in the last five hours... I do have a life besides this wiki. As for the image, it's a personal image of a borderline smasher page. I'm not sure if it really constitutes being needed, but if you want to upolad it, go ahead. Just don't be surprised if that whole page gets judged not notable. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 05:59, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


Um... not to be a bitch again, but why did you delete the main page for SA? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 21:58, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, it was linked to as the list of past fights page. I didn't realize that it had been changed. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 21:59, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
That's alright, no foul no harm done. (whew, no wondered why Miles or Gutripper put it in the front page). Squallinoa 08 (talk) 22:01, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


Hey Clarinet Hawk. I've got a request. In case you didn't know, Wikia recently allowed it so that b'crats can now remove sysop status (but not b'crat status). So what I was wondering if you could remove my admin status. The main reason is I'm not active here and I haven't played any SSB game since April 08, so I can't really help out the community. I'm still a helper though, so I would still be able to do things that admins can do, though like I said I'm not active here so if someone was to ask me to get involved in something I probably wouldn't be able to because of not knowing what's going on. So if you could remove my sysop status that would be sweet, thanks.--Richardtalk 23:35, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Survey link[edit]

Hey Clarinet Hawk. I wanted to bring your attention to this forum topic I just made regarding a link to a survery I had to add. I posted it in the forum, instead of here, since SmashWiki has such a large and active community. JoePlay (talk) 23:38, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

There's been a change in plans. =) We would like to ask for permission to add a link for a gaming survey on the wiki until March 2nd. Obviously, the more people that see it, the better. We would like a small link on the main page, but if you can suggest another placement, we would love to hear it. Please reply on my talk page at your earliest convenience. Thanks. JoePlay (talk) 20:20, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
[w:c:streetfighter|Street Fighter Wiki] and [w:c:soulcalibur|Soulcalibur Wiki] already link to SmashWiki in the Related Communities section on the sidebar, but Mortal Kombat, Dead or Alive and Tekken do not, so I'll put a link on those wikis. Plus, we will add a SmashWiki spotlight image to the Wikia Spotlight rotation. Is that cool? JoePlay (talk) 23:03, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
I noticed you've been logged in yesterday and today after I posted my last message, so I'll take your non-response to mean that you're OK with the deal. I just added the survey link to the News section on the main page. Again, it only runs through March 2nd, so you guys can take it down at the stroke of mignight that day. =) As per our agreement, I added a link to SmashWiki on all the fighting game wikis that didn't already link here. I also made a Wikia Spotlight for SmashWiki that will be added to the rotation today. Thanks for your cooperation! JoePlay (talk) 16:59, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Sounds great. Sorry about not getting back to you. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 18:08, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Quick question[edit]

Hey. So, you nailed a machinima article I wrote recently on the premise of advertising. I'm just wondering, what set that article apart from, say, Smashtasm to make it an advertisement? I'm not contesting your decision, it's just that I'm relatively new to wikis, so I'm not entirely sure of all the regulations yet...--Meta-Kirb (talk) 18:02, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

The problem with that article was that it wasn't about a notable machinima, and to be frank, it wasn't even a machinima. It was mostly some scrub trying to tell everyone they're cheap if they play to actually win the games. We don't have articles on each and every strategy guide, and even if we did, that wouldn't get an article because it was less of a strategy guide and more of someone trying to impose their artificial rules into the game. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 18:56, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
K, makes sense. To be honest, I never actually thought of it as a "serious" strategy guide, I just thought it was a good laugh. Thanks!--Meta-Kirb (talk) 23:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Maki Maki: I emailed you a quick question about the DHC page, couldnt find much contact information here. please write back soon.--User:Makimaki (talk) 11:48, 25 February 2009


I have to say, I'm constantly unimpressed with your actions, especially considering that you're an admin. Regardless of anything else, the information you deleted from "custom taunt" had merit, and should've been merged with taunt, as was suggested on the page, and in SW guidelines. Please recover and merge the information; as I am now no longer able to do so.

-Rather than simply retorting, I would ask that you actually do the right thing in this instance. -If not, you could at least be a little nicer about it, for once. Zixor (talk) 16:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

The information there obviously wasn't going to merit it's own page. There also was not anywhere near enough information for it to be problematic to expect someone to recreate as a foot note on the taunt page. I can practically remember word for word the entire page as it is, and I looked at it once and deleted it. Also, if you thought it should be merged, go ahead and do it. On the whole, I'm getting tired of you going onto talk pages and saying "Shouldn't blah happen?" Go ahead and do it. If people don't like it, it will get reverted, no harm done. And if you don't have the time to do what you are proposing (which I doubt is the case), then why do you expect everyone else to jump right on it. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 16:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Because unilateral decisions, especially large ones, are fail. The template says suggest for a reason- it's there to incite discussion. Maybe this case is minor enough that discussion wasn't necessary, but the principle is still there. And then, after you've deleted the page, there's nowhere else to go except to other admins, which doesn't make sense, since you deleted the page. Assuming that people will remember what was in the page is dumb, and if it wasn't a problem to move the note why didn't you when you deleted the page? :/ --Shadowcrest 20:10, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

supporting is wrong now??[edit]

I'm trying to support you and Rita. Zixor seems to think everything should go his way, and I could have sworn that that is unacceptable here. He keeps bothering her about the image even though a conclusion has already been met. Come on, you can't not be annoyed by his actions. Blue Ninjakoopa 16:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

I wish everything would go my way and frequently see to it that it does. Is that a crime? --Shadowcrest 21:08, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
I know slashing that comment was inappropriate, but hear me out. This helps me ignore Shadowcrest so I won't react violently and/or troll him. He's been doing things like that since my ban in January ended. Blue Ninjakoopa 22:43, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
I have removed the striking, as you have pretty much no grounds to support it with.
That was a pretty direct response to "Zixor seems to think everything should go his way, and I could have sworn that that is unacceptable here." I think everything should go my way. He is free to argue about it as long as he wishes, as long as he can actually argue the points and not just bring up old ones or go "no ur rong lolqq". As long as actual argument continues, a conclusion hasn't been met. (Note: This may or may not apply directly to this case, but I'm arguing on principle.)
"Come on, you can't not be annoyed by his actions." That should not factor into anything logical, pretty much ever. Appeals to emotion = fail.
It's true that Zixor should not reupload the image or any such until the argument is settled. But somehow, I don't think that's what you're getting at. --Shadowcrest 23:10, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Isn't that all you needed to say, instead of making me look stupid? Oh, and you could have left out the part about "fail". I can call Gargomon a genius and it's counted as a PA but you can tell me that I fail? That's loldumb. Blue Ninjakoopa 23:12, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
It was not my intention to make you feel stupid. I thought that my first reply was clear enough to get my point across.
Incompatible comparison. You called gargomon a 'genius' (though it is still unsure whether you actually meant such a thing), I called appeals to emotion (which are a logical fallacy anyway) fail. You said someone was fail, I said something was fail. --Shadowcrest 23:25, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Internet emotion is fail in general :\ Blue Ninjakoopa 23:28, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Unnecessary Comments[edit]

Can anyone delete a rude statement made by vandals? I want to make all the pages "clean" (if that doesn't offend you). SapphireKirby777 ~Behold! -.- 20:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Censorship is bad, and evidence is never a good thing to remove. If a vandal creates a page with just a mean comment then it'll probably be deleted, but if they just post on someone's talk page I don't think we should go out of our way. You're welcome to do it on your own talk page if that's what you're asking about, but as far as other's talks are concerned you should leave that up to them. --Shadowcrest 20:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Oh...I see. I should INFORM an admin about this instead of deleting it (due to the fact that an admin will have a tough time finding the original evidence of a vandalism in a page if a non-admin user erased it). I get it. Sorry about that, I went stupid... SapphireKirby777 ~Behold! -.- 20:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
It has nothing to do with being an admin :/ --Shadowcrest 21:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Does his mother watch everything he does or something? :( Blue Ninjakoopa 21:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC) BNK. However, LOL on the comment. I just want to know what to do without getting in trouble on this wiki. SapphireKirby777 ~Behold! -.- 13:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


I suspect that we have a bot on a proxy, which would explain the recurrence, though I can't explain why it would target only one or two users. Either that, or a complete idiot... --Sky (t · c · w) 02:31, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

That IP has been used for that exact kind of vandalism before. I have a feeling that our friend either has a limited number of IPs, or there's some problems finding a new one. I recommend that we perma every last one of them that he's used. It's getting seriously old. Semicolon (talk) 05:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


Which doesn't make him notable. He needs to have placed very well at a high quality tournament. --Sky (t · c · w) 01:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


do want --Shadowcrest 19:04, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Severely tempted[edit] ban the "Wikia" user. I don't like the auto-welcome is does for IPs, and it also signs its comments automatically as a random sysop, not as itself. What do you think? Miles (talk) 21:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I already mentioned it to him on IRC. He said he'll deal with it... --Shadowcrest 21:11, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

On a side note, Smoreking's waited quite a while... Miles (talk) 02:03, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Frankly, considering the comments/votes I've gotten, it won't be an easy decision. I'm fine with waiting another month as long as it's an honest decision by CH and not rushed.Smoreking(T) (c) 22:16, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

character page vandal[edit]

Who keeps adding stuff to the character pages. He's reusing the same IPs. If we perma them all, we could end him for good. Check the contributions of the IPs he's done it with. I'm sick of it, and we could put an end to it. What do you think? Semicolon (talk) 02:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

What if they're public computers though? That prevents good faith users from using them. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 20:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
The short answer is that I don't care tbh. The long answer is that those computers have never made a good-faith IP edit, so I doubly don't care. Semicolon (talk) 20:54, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Then wtb a long answer, because I don't like the short answer. Conservapedia is the place to ban those liberal IPs, not SmashWiki. l2agf --Shadowcrest 22:24, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
no u Blue Ninjakoopa 22:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't care if you don't like the short answer, tbh, and I don't know what 'wtb' means, so I'm just going to put it this way: It doesn't matter if they're public computers. They may not be public computers. They are being used for consistent, repeat, and disruptive vandalism. This is grounds for banning, in fact, it may be grounds for permanent banning, but I want to run it by the powers that be first. We don't ban accounts because of the possibility of vandalism, and likewise we don't unban accounts because of the possibility of good faith edits. We ban accounts and IPs because of what they do. In this case, these IPs have never done anything good, and have always done the same sort of vandalism. I don't understand why you're fighting me on this, Shadowcrest. To defend this vandalism is just plain ridiculous. Semicolon (talk) 22:57, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

No one's defending vandalism, Semicolon. If you perma-ban the IP's, then unblock them at a later date, it will convince the vandal to drop the idea, because he thinks he has been perma-banned. However, unbanning him later, without giving an inclination of the unbanning, will still allow good faith users in the future. That is, of course, providing that they are public computers. Just an idea. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 23:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Perma-banning then unblocking is a stupid idea. They, like the retard at my school, will just keep coming back for more punishment. I understand that you're assuming good faith about these IPs, but I'm not sure how many people actually use Wikia nowadays... especially somewhere public. Blue Ninjakoopa 23:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't understand this idea that these are public computers. They are far more likely to be proxies than public computers, and even more likely computers at personal disposal. If they were proxies, it stands to reason that the vandal would continue to cycle through different proxies, never using the same one to be completely unpredictable/catch-able. If they're public computers, and there's no way to prove that, then I honestly don't care about perma-banning them. The wiki can still be viewed, just not edited, and tbh, I think we can live without IP edits from 3-4 public computers. It's most likely that these are IPs at personal disposal, in which case permabanning them is a really, really good idea. Now, I'm actually pretty lenient with vandals. Most of them are one-timers out for a laugh. Whatever. 6 or 7 clicks and it's over for good. I have zero patience for vandals with this persistence, and this wiki shouldn't either. One of the hallmarks of being human is being able to spot patterns and thus predict based on these patterns. Our vandal waits until our menial 1-2 week bans are done, and then vandalizes again. It's quite impressive, his persistence, and we ought to learn from that by predicting his vandalism and ban him and his IPs forever. I don't see what's objectionable about this--at all. It's completely irrational to predict that next time our fuzzy little friend will all of a sudden have a change of heart and start contributing positively, yet that's what some people seem to think here. I've had enough of it, really, I have, and unless I see a good reason I'm going to permaban all of his IPs, and I don't see a reason to unban them at any date. Nobody's unbanned Willy on Wheels hoping he's forgotten...there's a pattern here. Semicolon (talk) 00:05, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
On a similar note, my school's IP is blocked from editing Wikipedia. Why? Because the idiots there like to vandalize. Even if I found a typo on a featured article, I couldn't fix it. Sometimes, even if the IP is public, it's still safer generally to have it blocked if it's a source of vandalism. Miles (talk) 00:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Please respond[edit]

I've been ignored by every sysop that I've asked and on every page I've asked it, and it's getting rather annoying. Are Smasher:Shade and Papercut safe from being deleted according to SW:NOTE? I understand if they aren't, and once you let me know I'll make haste in copying the info for use elsewhere before they're deleted. I just want to have peace of mind in whether the articles are legit or not. Shade487z 02:49, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry we've been unable to respond. You're perfectly safe. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 02:51, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Whew! Thanks a lot. Shade487z 02:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Papercut doesn't look safe at all to me, and Shade is tiptoe-ing the line. --Sky (t · c · w) 05:19, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Regrettable yet understandable. guys can settle this, I honestly don't know who's right but I can understand if it's deleted. No need in waiting around for me to copy the info before you delete it, I have a photographic memory with stuff like that ^^. Shade487z 05:41, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

From what I've seen over there, their tournaments are pretty well established on All is Brawl. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 14:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
40-50 entrants a week yeah. Shade487z 17:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
That's impressive. Good job, guys. Semicolon (talk) 17:50, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Welcome tool[edit]

Hi Chawk -- I saw that you disabled the welcome tool last week. We recently upgraded the tool to allow for some more customization, so it's possible that something that you didn't like about it may have been fixed. Can you tell me what you thought about the welcomes? What made you want to turn it off? It's not a problem; I just want to see if there's a way I can help. -- Danny<staff /> (talk) 03:04, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


can you go there? I just want to have a general discussion.Smoreking(T) (c) 15:59, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Can't, got class in 10 minutes and have to drive there today. I'll be back tonight. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 16:03, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Can you perma-ban BNK please?? N33B (talk) 16:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
No, unless you can provide me a very convincing argument. (This is technically just my own personal decision, but I would hope that the other admins would abide by it unless you at least consult with me first.) --Shadowcrest 18:53, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Biased for Jigglypuff?[edit]

Hi. I have looked at this user's contributions, and maybe it's because I absoultely HATE Jigglypuff, but it seems to me that he/she is biased for Jigglypuff. I wouldn't call him/her a vandal (that's why I didn't put this on the vandal section) because he/she doesn't replace articles with "GAY GAY GAY" or anything like that, but I do think this user needs a warning or something like that to quit making Jiggly seem like the best character ever no matter what it takes. However, he/she may just be a normal user. I can't tell because I'm biased against YOU FAIL!. That's why I wanted a second opinion. Enigmatic Mr. L (talk) 00:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

I'd agf that one. Maybe explain to him that reverting the same comments over and over again isn't allowed, but otherwise he looks like a good-faith editor. --Shadowcrest 01:59, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


Hello, oh my glorious emperor, I do oh so hope to apply for the jester-hood job?264Y - (DiscussionWho Cares? ) 17:16, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, your majesty[edit]

But I'm lovin' this April Fool's Day shenanigan you guys came up with lol. It doesn't beat Youtube though, they flipped all the video players and text upside-down. :O Shade487z 21:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Littlekuriboh (the guy who makes Yugioh The Abridged Series) made a Naruto special and made his website look like he hates Yugioh more than he already did. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 00:28, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


A guy ( is destroying Smash Wiki, please stop him. user:Firewario user talk:Firewario 2nd April 2009 18:25 (UTC)


Here is the code for those Microsoft Points that you wanted:


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This guy...[edit]

So there's this guy, 13375poolR. You've heard of him before, and he's doing crap again. Example: he uses an attitude on a new user, going so far as to call him "The Slug King" (which I removed as it's a personal attack, old edit here). I can't really call him a vandal (hence why I didn't put him at the top of this page), but he has few good-faith edits (in my opinion), he's already been warned for doing crap, and his attitude is not acceptable. Toomai Glittershine eXemplary Logic 21:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Someone noticed your sunken pushes[edit]

Your innovation has had an impact on the pro scene. Check this video, at 15:34.

Also, I saw the TSCC (talk) 20:17, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


Ok, I understand that as soon as you start charging, they know what move you are goin to do. However, surely the fact that u can continuosuly hold it, change direction, or release early, means they still have to be cautious. I mean the one negative thing i think that could be put there, is that it is easily punishable by projectiles. However, I still don't see how u can ALWAYS know what a spinning Jigglypuff is going to do - which is what predictable means. (I have not changed the page ........yet. lol!). Phayz (talk) 16:50, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Jump or go to a platform.Smoreking(T) (c) 17:43, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
(edit conflict)The problem is that even though you can change the time when you release it, you're still locked into one move that makes you stationary while charging and then moves in a determinant fashion. Even after jiggles releases the charge, there's ample time for the opponent to shield, counter, etc. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 17:44, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Fine, i was just pointing out that often (on stages with no platforms) when i use rollout, my opponents may shield, before i release - then i do release - depending on distance, i either hit them, or they shield again, causing me to pass through them, but then i turn around, and they have often dropped their shields. As with jumping, i release - they jump, i do a double turn, and as long as they don't have multiple jumps, I often catch them landing. Moreover, because of its speed, whenever i see an enemy coming into land - with no jumps left (or helpless) - becuase of rollouts speed - u can time it perfectky to hit them just as they land - so they can't counter it.

...However, I do understand what you mean now, and if u use rollout when the opponent is "at the ready" then in its predictable. I believe what I have put now is ok? Phayz (talk) 18:34, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

sort of wondering...[edit]

...why you didn't bother to discuss this with me- or anyone- first. I didn't block him because his posts look like something a toddler wrote, I blocked him because he's deliberately acting like a moron in order to troll. And that is something we block for. --Shadowcrest 22:07, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

54321 seconds?Smoreking(T) (c) 12:07, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

<grins>Is that some kind of joke?!</grins> --~The Blue Blur~New main in training! 12:17, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Just a stab in the dark...[edit]

You got Brawl+. Is it legit or is it legit? Shade487z 02:27, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't even bother to play regular Brawl anymore. Brawl+ is what the game should have been all along. So naturally, instead of releasing the patch themselves, Nintendo is trying to make it impossible for people to get it. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 02:42, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Until they kill that group of people in the Brawl+ IRC (see link I posted here), they'll never stop it. I'd only play B+ as well but I can't do that since I have no local opponents and online B+'ers are few and far between. Shade487z 02:51, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

The problem isn't Nintendo trying to shut down the IRCs. It's the system updates they are releasing that are attempting to stop the Twilight Hack as well as make the Homebrew channel not work. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 03:33, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

and yet with every update, the Twilight Hack/Homebrew gets re-written to bypass it. Actually, they're supposedly working on a way to allow homebrew without hacking. This might actually allow users to update at will without loss of homebrew. That'd be great. Shade487z 03:38, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

What's all the Plus about?[edit]

So I see you have Brawl+. I've really wanted to install this on my Wii, but I've been too chicken after reading the disclaimer in the instructions to get Homebrew (In the VERY unlikely case your Wii should be bricked yada yada yada...). Is it safe to install Homebrew, or is there another way? Thanks! Meta-Kirb (talk) 15:35, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's safe to give it I go. The whole disclamer is to makre sure you don't sue them in the unlikely event that you mess it up. Really, no one can point to a concrete case of this bricking a Wii. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 21:52, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh, btw...[edit]

Any weekend you wanna hit me up for Brawl+ friendlies, I'm cool with it. Friend code's on my userpage. If it's anytime soon, make sure you're using Brawl Plussery 4.0 Online codes directly from the Smashboards thread (yeah, it matters where you get it). Shade487z 02:12, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Useless deleting?[edit]

Dude, did you ever even read the thread that you deleted (Smasher:Frozen) ?

The Tournaments part clearly said that "Has attended 2 minor tournaments" and that "is well known in the community".

So why the heck delete a smashers page, that is well known in a countrys smash community? I just don't get your logic... Sorry.

Sincerely yours: Makarainen (Post a reply on my talk page if you can answer, or mail me)

Do you believe in accidents?[edit]

Hi Clarinet Hawk, sorry for editing 40 times, I was just getting lost having fun making the signatures, then 2 hours later I see toomai glittershine and then he tells me I don't need to press save every time, but just press preview. I realize ohhhhh, how did that get there? Anyway, noob mistake. My bad. I will tell what though, I will make it up to you by giving you a free brawl match online. Unless you hate to lose, then I would not take that offer. Stridentgear Anytime, Anyplace, Anywhere (EST)


I would like to request administrator for User:Blue Ninjakoopa. He is the top user of this wiki and I really think he deserves something. I already spoke to a helper of wikia.--Tavisource-Sharp eyes, slick moves 22:27, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

You are welcome to encourage him to open a request for adminship, but I am afraid the attempt would likely be for naught. --Shadowcrest 01:11, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
BNK himself has said that him being an admin would be hell.L33t Silvie I see wat u did thar... 01:14, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Is this a joke? Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 13:41, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I don't think so. Seems like this guy's a fanboy good friend of BNK's, probably from another wiki where BNK's an admin or something. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 01:05, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
I don't think the question was meant to be answered... --Shadowcrest 14:54, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
I think he was serious, but purely based off of the fact that he's technically the top contributor, but only based on edits, not content, which I guess Tavis thought was merit enough. Also, Silvie, no.Smoreking(T) (c) 20:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
What did I do? I paraphrased something he said, which can be taken that he doesn't want to be an admin anyway. I wasn't actually saying that it would be hell.L33t Silvie I see wat u did thar... 20:53, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Tavis is a friend of mine from Bulbapedia, a wiki with high-class adminship (that includes non-temperamental admin bullies and faster activity) and also one which I have shown good faith edits. He requested my adminship in my favor because he saw my contributions, but did not noticed how many times I have been blocked. And L33tSilvie, I would like you to know that I'm not really aiming for adminship at this moment. Seeing what you lot have to deal with (trolls, vandals, etc.) makes me think twice about having power. As an added fact, I also quite enjoy being a regular user whereas the admins hate me and my friends love me. <3 Blue Ninjakoopa 15:58, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
I do not appreciate those stereotypes. --Shadowcrest 18:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Blocked? Why the hell have you been blocked? Hm...k...I see. And, Smorekingxg456, you're right, I based it on his contribs. Only knowing this, I was that time that is. are wrong about me from another wiki where BNk's an admin. And no, I'm not his fanboy....jeez,I'm admin at 5 other wikis, and so I don't come here often,so I wouldn't know much about how he is doing. And because I'm admin at 5 other wikis, I would know how things go..."thank-you-very-much-Cheezyperson".--Tavisource-Sharp eyes, slick moves 01:25, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


Would you like to go a few matches? The only person I've faced is Shade, and I want to face some new people.Smoreking(T) (c) 15:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Tbh, I still haven't unpacked my Wii since moving. Once I do and get my Brawl+ updated I'll let you know. Don't hold your breath, as I just got a commision from a symposium, so a lot of my evenings are being spent on that. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 19:57, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


This may sound a bit idiotic, but were there taunts in SSB64? I never played, nor did I have an N64. I just noticed that most of the SSB fighter pages don't list a taunt. Any knowledge on the matter?L33t Silvie I see wat u did thar...

There were taunts - if necessary, I could compile a list of them. PenguinofDeath 21:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


...of what I mentioned last Monday. --Shadowcrest 21:55, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

keep in mind[edit]

Keep in mind what I'm saying about your activity. I'm not trying to criticize you or suggest that you need to devote more time to wiki, nor am I trying to insinuate that you ought to /resign. What I am trying to say is that, given your current RL duties such as finishing a commission on time, it would be wise to choose someone else as another bureaucrat so that when you vanish for a month or two and forget about open RfXs it's not a problem.

PS. I do want to continue speaking with you on IRC, however it will probably have to wait until at least Friday afternoon. Other than that I'm almost always available :) --Shadowcrest 01:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

image moving[edit]

Can you give image moving rights to the rollback user group please? --Shadowcrest 20:43, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Explain to me how and I will. I never took them away, at least not intentionally... Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 21:14, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Ask Uberfuzzy. You will also want to send it with Special:Contact, for the record. I recommend you tell them to give "movefile" to the rollback user group, in case they have one of their usual fails and mess it up because it wasn't specific enough or something. (Image moving is a new(ish) feature that was granted to sysops- you didn't remove it, don't worry :P ) --Shadowcrest 21:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
I contacted Wikia, and they made the necessary adjustment. PenguinofDeath 17:59, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

what do you mean by tails is secret?[edit]

On a forum i created, you said "ZOMG TAILS IS SECRET CHARACHTER!!111!1!!1!!!2". Does this actually mean tails is in the game, and if so, why isn't it on the super smash bros brawl page? Stripey2 (talk) 11:03, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Tails is not in Brawl, but there was a rumour that was widely believed to be true that spread around the Smash community that said that Tails was a secret unlockable character. When Brawl was released, people tried to unlock Tails and they all failed, so the rumour was proven to be false. However, some people maintained that Tails is actually a secret character in Brawl, just that no one's ever managed to unlock him, which became a big joke among smashers. You saying "my cousin told me about a character that people don't know about" reminded Clarinet Hawk of the Tails rumour, so he said "ZOMG TAILS IS SECRET CHARACHTER!!111!1!!1!!!2". He doesn't really believe that Tails is a secret character, he just said it as a joke. PenguinofDeath 15:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

rich text editor[edit]

Can you ask Wikia (through Special:Contact ofc) to set the rich text editor to disabled for this wiki? (You may also want to point them to SmashWiki:Administrators' noticeboard#Image removal.) Shadowcrest 01:32, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Do you mind doing it. If they ask about you point them to this post. I'm at a conference for the next two weeks and won't be able to check the wiki much or really do anything...Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 07:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm in Florida on vacation editing from my phone, so not really >.> Shadowcrest 02:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Shall I do it, then? Just to clarify: "Please, Wikia, auto-disable the Rich Text Editor on SmashWiki". Is that all? PenguinofDeath 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I asked Wikia, and this was their response:
We cant do that. Its either on at the wiki, or its off. The setting to use it is on a per user
setting in their global settings, we cant make it "default off" at a wiki. So if the extension is
enabled at a wiki, all the people who opt to use it can, and it is turned on in the settings of all
new users (something we cant adjust per wiki, since accounts are global, they dont actually get
created at any 1 wiki)
So basically, we can't auto-disable it. I don't know what else we could do, aside from preventing IPs from editing and making new users disable the RTE themselves, but that seems rather extreme. :/ PenguinofDeath 17:59, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
I think the best we can do is to somehow alert users of the problem, and just damage control the IP edits until the RTE is fixed. I know that announcements are ignored by some, but I don't see what else can be done. Toomai Glittershine Toomai.png eXemplary Logic cntrbs 19:29, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't want to hear you EVER say Sonic sucks again for as long as you live on this planet.[edit]

You can go to the moon and rant for all I give a damn. (I'm not trying to start another war with you, I'm just letting you know that Sonic, according to the SBR, no longer "sucks"). Good night to you! Blue Ninjakoopa 02:31, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Shadowcrest's RfB[edit]

Just to remind you that it's still open, and has been for two and a half months now, even though everyone who was ever going to support/oppose it has done so already. I am in no way telling you what to do - far from it - just that I feel that at this stage it would be only fair to pass his RfB, and that it would in fact be unfair to leave it open any longer given that the reasons you gave for delaying your decision have now been dealt with. Thanks, PenguinofDeath 14:25, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

it comes from...the norse...[edit]

w00t w00t

pointless talk page spam. w00t. w00t.

Semicolon (talk) 19:29, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

The Dutch Are Rising![edit]

Greetings from the Netherlands!

Hello there! My name is Kazzymodus and I'm the 'founder' of the Dutch Smash Wiki. The only problem is: I'm the ONLY one on the complete wiki! And I'm not really in the postition to make a logo or favicon. So my question is, can I borrow (with other words use) your logo and favicon? Kazzymodus (talk) 16:47, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

The logo and favicon are both GFDL, so legally you're welcome to. :) Shadowcrest 17:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
But we do thank you for asking, if for no other reason than it's respectful and polite. Best of luck to you. Semicolon (talk) 17:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank a lot! Kazzymodus (talk) 09:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)