Talk:Recoil damage

Pichu dash grab

Yep, the up smash and regular grab were wrong (don't know where I got that from), but doesn't its dash grab do recoil damage? I don't really remember. ^Smiddle 君怒る? 02:38, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

Pichu's dash grab deals no damage to Pichu; I played Melee against my brother a few days ago, and he frequently uses grabs and throws as the little bugger. ReiDemon 10:35, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

Not even when the grab connects? I could've sworn... ^Smiddle 君怒る? 03:55, 5 September 2011 (EDT)

IIRC, Pichu damages itself with its pummel and forward throw, but not with its grab. It's been a while since I played Melee. --Luigifan18 (talk) 21:21, 27 August 2018 (EDT)

Please don't respond to several-year-old discussions. Aidan, the Rurouni 21:27, 27 August 2018 (EDT)

Damage

Doesn't Lucas's up special deal damage to himself in brawl? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandvich9 (talk • contribs) 12:41, 13 September 2012‎

No, don't know why you'd think it does. But anyways, you failed to sign again, so you're going to be punished. Just read your damn talk page. Toast ltimatum 07:51, 13 September 2012 (EDT)

Uh, why is Ridley here?

I fail to see how that counts as recoil. Unowninator (talk) 19:57, 27 August 2018 (EDT)

He takes recoil damage if he is hit while charging his neutral special. George Jones 19:58, 27 August 2018 (EDT)

I'm sorry, but I don't really consider that to be recoil. Unowninator (talk) 20:15, 27 August 2018 (EDT)

Recoil is when you yourself take damage, yes? Then it counts. Roy and Ike only take recoil if it's fully charged (which doesn't happen often in tournaments much less someone playing as Roy), G&W takes damage only on Judge 1, and hell, DK gets damage when someone leaves his cargo in Melee. Aidan, the Rurouni 21:08, 27 August 2018 (EDT)

What does that have to do with Ridley? He isn't damaging himself; the opponent is. Unowninator (talk) 22:07, 27 August 2018 (EDT)

I have to agree with Unowninator here. If the damage requires an opponent's hit to happen, which is what happens with Ridley's neutral special, it's not recoil. All forms of true recoil damage in the series happen without influence from opponents. (EDIT: Well, escaping DK's cargo in Melee is an exception, but that still doesn't require him to get hit by an attack like Ridley's neutral special does.) DracoRex, Creator of the Land 22:12, 27 August 2018 (EDT)

My main point of giving other examples was that there are other unlikely situations where recoil wouldn't necessarily occur as often as, say, Pichu's every attack.

As for your argument, Draco, a simple jab would give the same amount of damage towards Ridley in this situation as any other attack, so there is some recoil damage in place here. Aidan, the Rurouni 22:37, 27 August 2018 (EDT)