Talk:List of tips (SSB4-Wii U)

Subsections

Could we make subsections for tips with alike prefixes (i.e Bowser:Bowser Bomb and Bowser:Flying Slam)? It would make the page way easier to navigate and smaller if we removed those prefixes besides in the subsection titles. Nyargleblargle (Talk) 16:41, 10 May 2015 (EDT)

Bumping this. Nyargleblargle (Talk) 07:08, 14 May 2015 (EDT)

Seems like a good idea. I'm gonna go ahead and do it, in fact, along with adding links to the page. Zyrac (talk) 08:07, 14 May 2015 (EDT)

I don't know about this, because the TOC would end up being about as long as the page, and it'd be much trickier to actually edit. Toomai Glittershine The Jiggy 09:00, 14 May 2015 (EDT)

I don't see how it would be hard to edit, and I think the TOC will look alright if we put it on the side. I'm already most of the way through doing it for the fighters section, anyway, so I might as well finish that and see what you think of it. Zyrac (talk) 09:20, 14 May 2015 (EDT)

Split

Oppose, we could solve the problem with transclusion, and the page is intended to keep all tips in a single, well-organized article. Splitting the page defeats the purpose of that. Nyargleblargle (Contribs) 19:16, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

Oppose, for two main reasons. Number one, it's big, but it's all text, so it's not that heavy on load times, which is usually a major concern for longer pages. Number two, it's all text that's essentially fixed, so there's not really much of a need to edit it most of the time. Miles (talk) 19:35, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

I don't see how whether or not we have to update the page would really affect a split. I'm not in favor of it, I would just like to see the reasoning behind that logic. MegaTron1 19:37, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

It boils down to the question of "what's wrong with a long page?" The two main answers are "it takes too long to load", which I addressed, and "it's unwieldy to edit", which was the other point I was making. In this article's case, neither one is much of a concern. Miles (talk) 20:14, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

Wouldn't "ctrl + f" remedy the ability to navigate the page while editing? I'm assuming a certain caliber of computer competence when it comes to editing here. MegaTron1 22:29, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

Oppose. There is a reason why the table of contents helps. Too big arguments is not valid enough to split this page. Dots (talk) The Pikachu 21:11, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

The "too big arguments" would fall directly under the "unwieldy to edit" clause, so I'm not sure about how valid the validity of your claims about validity are. MegaTron1 22:29, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

Oppose per Miles and Nyargle. Serpent King 23:41, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

Mega Man section

Why is there a Mega man section? Is it a typo, or does it have its own category. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is made in America 22:42, 2 June 2017 (EDT)

Since most of these tips are prefaced with "Mega Man:" in-game, giving them their own subsection is consistent with the way the page is organised overall. Zyrac(talk•contribs) 11:29, 3 June 2017 (EDT)

PAL Tips (& Split)

I'm working on compiling all of the PAL Tips onto a userpage of mine, just wanted to let people know that someone's on this project. the fact that you can only see three at a time, at random, isn't making it the most pleasant experience. I'm not sure how the information will be implemented, if it'll be its own separate article or be included within the main tips page marked with a flag like trophy descriptions, PAL tips being part of this page would effectively be doubled, and there were seemingly already split discussions, so a separate page just for the PAL tips is what i would personally elect. PhantoFantasma 12:51, April 26, 2022 (EDT)

something else im noticing is that some of the tips listed on this page are identical to PAL ones, but then some others aren't listed, so im under the impression that the page has NTSC tips, AND a few PAL ones (they have identical information to other NTSC tips on the page but worded differently), so it would be nice if we could identify which tips are from which regions. PhantoFantasma 13:32, April 26, 2022 (EDT)

I highly doubt there is enough changes to warrant a split. Most differences will probably be stuff like "color" vs "colour" and "armor" vs "armour". Based on the edit history, most/all of the tips come from here; whether that has a mix of NTSC or PAL I'm not sure. I have the NTSC version, so I could check them, but 1174 entries will take a while to collect. --CanvasK (talk) 19:25, April 26, 2022 (EDT)

I have to disagree, We have both trophy descriptions for NTSC and PAL listed on applicable pages, if the differences are notable enough to both be placed there, then the tips certainly would be too. and from the tips i've gathered so far you can absolutely begin to see a difference in how they are worded, sometimes even the tone entirely is changed (usually to a more casual tone). PhantoFantasma 17:45, April 27, 2022 (EDT)

I never said anything about not listing PAL; if there are differences they should definitely be listed, probably in a similar manner as the trophies. I just don't think a full split would be warranted like was mentioned in the first post and header. Some of the differences you see may be a result of updates that weren't recorded, I've noticed a few in my lists. --CanvasK (talk) 17:53, April 27, 2022 (EDT)