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::Poor writing is not a justification for deletion.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 15:07, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
::Poor writing is not a justification for deletion.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 15:07, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
:::I know it doesn't, but why keep this article when the same information exists on two other pages, both of which describe the technique in a more detailed and specific matter? There are many other special moves that can negate momentum while momentum canceling and I don't think that just because momentum canceling with Oil Panic has a nickname doesn't mean that momentum canceling with Oil Panic should have an article of its own. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 15:14, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
:::I know it doesn't, but why keep this article when the same information exists on two other pages, both of which describe the technique in a more detailed and specific matter? There are many other special moves that can negate momentum while momentum canceling and I don't think that just because momentum canceling with Oil Panic has a nickname doesn't mean that momentum canceling with Oil Panic should have an article of its own. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 15:14, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
::::Professional notability is also at play here.  [[Waveshine|Waveshining]] could be in a different article, as could [[Wall of Pain]].  But they are important enough techniques to the metagame that they merit their own pages.  Same here.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 15:25, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

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Merge

Merge. Seems good, would work as a few extra paragraphs in Oil Panic...HavocReaper48!! 23:08, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm. This technique seems important enough to me to merit its own page, but I think that the page should merge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miles.oppenheimer (talkcontribs) 23:44, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Keep. I think that the article is all right on its own and does not need to be merged. Solar Dragon (Talk) 20:00, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Keep. It's a seperate technique. That's like saying that you should put kirbycide on kirby's page. It goes fine on its own.Highway pumpy PK STARSTORM!!] 19:18, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

No, if we were to merge it, it would be on Inhale's page, not the Kirby page itself. Techniques don't reflect the characters themselves, just how good they perform in battles. HavocReaper48 20:12, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
Ok it was just an example. I couldn't think of anything else. Didn't mean to offend you.PK FIYAH Highwaydawg 20:33, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
No problem, just thought the example was a bit drastic. HavocReaper48 20:52, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Keep. Easily notable enough to merit its own page... PenguinofDeath 21:19, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Keep. Ditto.--Megatron1 (talk) 02:26, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Merge This page should be merged with Oil Panic, it is just Momentum Canceling with Oil Panic. We don't have a separate article for momentum cancelling with Donkey Kong's Spinning Kong, which negates all horizontal momentum on the first frame of activation. The information in this article already exists on the Momentum Cancelling page and I can easily add it to the Oil Panic page as well as mention the nickname. As such, this is just momentum canceling with Oil Panic and we don't need the information on three different pages. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 09:24, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Merge / Delete: The only issue with merging the page is that the unofficial term "Bucket Brake" exists, while separate terms don't exist for, say, DK's Spinning Kong momentum cancel. However, as long as the term is acknowledged and referenced on the momentum canceling page, and redirects are created, it does make more sense to merge the article. The page on momentum canceling has sections of detailed information on every character's momentum canceling moves and abilities, and there's no reason to redirect readers to this page just to see G&W's section. Mako Shark (talk) 13:41, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Delete

I went and added the necessary information on the Oil Panic page. Now we have the information on this page in two other articles. As such, this page is no longer needed and it should be deleted. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 10:27, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Delete Same reason as above. Dr. Pain 99 Dp99.png Talk 13:21, June 18, 2010 (UTC)


Strong Keep. This is an actual technique, and it having it's own page is absolutely the correct thing. Even with the note of it on other pages, the information here is more detailed and specific. That is how things like this work. On other pages, a mention of it's existence and general properties are listed with a link to this page, where the full technique is covered. Please stop trying to tag completely legitimate pages for deletion. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 15:02, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, it is cover in more detail on the Momentum Canceling and Oil Panic pages. This page is also not only about using Oil Panic for momentum canceling, it tells other moves that can be use for momentum canceling as well, all of which are covered in more detail on the momentum canceling pages. As such, the information here is just a repeat of information that exists on other pages, but in a less detailed and poorly written matter. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 15:06, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
Poor writing is not a justification for deletion. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 15:07, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
I know it doesn't, but why keep this article when the same information exists on two other pages, both of which describe the technique in a more detailed and specific matter? There are many other special moves that can negate momentum while momentum canceling and I don't think that just because momentum canceling with Oil Panic has a nickname doesn't mean that momentum canceling with Oil Panic should have an article of its own. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 15:14, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
Professional notability is also at play here. Waveshining could be in a different article, as could Wall of Pain. But they are important enough techniques to the metagame that they merit their own pages. Same here. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 15:25, June 18, 2010 (UTC)