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But I thought that the length increased from melee to brawl. And wouldn't Ganon's and CF's Down B be an approach attack?  [[User:Zexas A.|Zexas A.]] ([[User talk:Zexas A.|talk]]) 00:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
But I thought that the length increased from melee to brawl. And wouldn't Ganon's and CF's Down B be an approach attack?  [[User:Zexas A.|Zexas A.]] ([[User talk:Zexas A.|talk]]) 00:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Peach has increased in lenghth, so is similar to Wolf's side B, and so stays, ans u are correct about the down B kicks. I dont think this should be merged with [[Approach]] as that page contains links to all other types of approach, and these attacks are a type of appraoch, and so the list of them should be here, and the link to it in [[Approach]]. [[User:Phayz|Phayz]] ([[User talk:Phayz|talk]]) 00:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)([[User talk:Phayz]]) 01:21 July 31
<s>Don't merge it. The same reasons [[User:Phayz|Phayz]] had. I also just put a link on the bottom of the page[[User:Smorekingxg456|Smorekingxg456]] ([[User talk:Smorekingxg456|talk]]) 17:10, 15 August 2008 (UTC)</s>
Merge it. [[User:Smorekingxg456|Smorekingxg456]] ([[User talk:Smorekingxg456|talk]]) 20:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
==Obvious Merge==
Really? How can you have "long range attacks that move your character a.k.a. [[Approach Attacks]]" listed as a "type of approach" on the [[Approach]] article and not see how these articles should be merged? Oi.
This is what should happen:
*The content should be loosely merged into [[Approach]]
*"Types of Approaches" needs a cleanup, but it should stay basically the same.
*"Common Approach Attacks" should be listed as a second level 2 header with the information from the Approach Attacks article as it relates to specific characters.
*It should really have some disambiguation with regards to what games they apply in, too. After all, you can't [[SHFFL]] in Brawl.
Yes? Yes. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 17:24, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
I agree. :-| - [[User:Amycats2|Amycats2]] ([[User talk:Amycats2|talk]]) 17:49, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
'''Merge'''. [[User:Zixor|Zixor]] ([[User talk:Zixor|talk]]) 23:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
''Merge'' [[User: Skrabb-a-log |<font color="Goldenrod "> Skrabb-a-log </font>]] Image:Scorpion.jpg| 40px |  [[User talk:Skrabb-a-log |<sup><font color="green" size="2">What are you waiting for? Click it!</font></sup>]] 21:22, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Anybody, uh, wanna get on that?'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 18:57, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
:Bringing this back.
:Seriously? How is this an article? This must be why the approach article is a stub. So '''Merge'''.<font face="sand">[[User:Qwerty|<font color="#04FE6D">Qwerty</font>]] [[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="#66CC2A">the</font>]] [[Special:Logout|<font color="#08CFCC">lord</font>]]</font> [[File:Nessytrewq.jpg|16px]] 13:03, 1 July 2014 (EDT)
== Wario's Wario Bike is not Wario's body. ==
I have a problem with the page stating that a character that Approach Attacks "uses its own body as a projectile." Wario's Wario Bike doesn't use Wario's body as a projectile. It helps the bike by riding it, yes, but that only makes the bike a projectile. Still, Wario's Wario Bike is listed as an approach attack. I suggest we either change the word projectile to approaching, make clear that Wario's Wario Bike is an exception or simply remove the Wario Bike from the list. I am not very sure about what is best for the page, though.
[[User:Zelderu Maryoto|Zelderu Maryoto]] ([[User talk:Zelderu Maryoto|talk]]) 12:37, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
:The only thing that has to be changed is the definition as many of these attacks do not involve the use of the character's body, such as Drill Rush, the DACUSes, or the example you gave. All of the attacks listed are approach attacks (except for Wolf's f-smash), we just have a faulty definition listed. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 12:46, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
OK, good job. Yes, Wolf's f-smash seemed a bit weird... [[User:Zelderu Maryoto|Zelderu Maryoto]] ([[User talk:Zelderu Maryoto|talk]]) 17:15, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
==Merge (2)==
I think this should be merged with [[Approach]].--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#00006E>P</font>]][[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#0000A5>S</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000DC>I</font>]][[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000FF>W</font><font color=#0037FF>o</font><font color=#006EFF>lf</font>]]''''' 09:56, 8 July 2011 (EDT)
I agree. [[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]][[File:NessHeadSSBM.png]] 09:57, 8 July 2011 (EDT)
:Bump.--'''''<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:PSIWolf|<span style="color:gold">P</span><span style="color:orange">S</span><span style="color:red">I</span><span style="color:#333333">Wolf</span>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">T</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">C</span>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">E</span>]])</span> 05:35, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
: Any specific reason for the merge? – [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]]<sub>[[user talk:Smiddle|T]]</sub> 06:44, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
::Almost the same thing.--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#6E0000>P</font><font color=#A50000>S</font><font color=#DC0000>I</font><font color=#FF0000>W</font><font color=#FF3700>o</font><font color=#FF6E00>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>E</font>]]) 06:45, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
:::No, not really. An approach attack is a ''type'' of approach, in the same way an up smash is a type of smash attack. – [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]]<sub>[[user talk:Smiddle|T]]</sub> 07:08, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
::::Well, on both pages, there is a list of approaching stuff and an explantation of it, so...--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#6E0000>P</font><font color=#A50000>S</font><font color=#DC0000>I</font><font color=#FF0000>W</font><font color=#FF3700>o</font><font color=#FF6E00>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>E</font>]]) 07:09, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
Considering how the current setup of the approach page is, I'll '''oppose''' a merge. Each of the various kinds of approaches got their own article, and I see this as no different. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 09:21, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
== Side smashes ==
Should the space animal's (except for Falco in Brawl) side smashes be considered approaching attacks? All of them move a decent distance. Other side smashes with this property are Link's and Kirby's, to name a few. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:MatchupUnknown.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  18:11, 24 December 2011 (EST)
:No. Their short distance gained combined with their high ending lag does not allow them to be used as approach attacks. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 18:17, 24 December 2011 (EST)
== Defining ==
Having an article specifically for this type of attack seems weird to me, but while we're here do we really want to list attacks like Luigi Cyclone and Mach Tornado as "approaching attacks"?  By that logic every aerial is an approaching attack because you can choose to approach with it.  At least with a move like Fox Illusion you are forced to move forward and with Drill Rush you are moving forward at an angle, but with some of these attacks you can move forward, backward, or nowhere at all.--[[User:SimnaibnSind|SimnaibnSind]] ([[User talk:SimnaibnSind|talk]]) 04:28, September 9, 2022 (EDT)

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Space Animal's Side B[edit]

Uh Space Animal's side b goes only a LITTLE less of a distance than Meta Knight's drill rush. So it should be listed.--Oxico (talk) 23:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

REJECT THE ABOVE STATEMENT. My bad I thought it said side special not side smash. :P But I think the peach bomber is too short a distance too.--Oxico (talk) 23:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

But I thought that the length increased from melee to brawl. And wouldn't Ganon's and CF's Down B be an approach attack? Zexas A. (talk) 00:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Peach has increased in lenghth, so is similar to Wolf's side B, and so stays, ans u are correct about the down B kicks. I dont think this should be merged with Approach as that page contains links to all other types of approach, and these attacks are a type of appraoch, and so the list of them should be here, and the link to it in Approach. Phayz (talk) 00:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)(User talk:Phayz) 01:21 July 31

Don't merge it. The same reasons Phayz had. I also just put a link on the bottom of the pageSmorekingxg456 (talk) 17:10, 15 August 2008 (UTC) Merge it. Smorekingxg456 (talk) 20:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Obvious Merge[edit]

Really? How can you have "long range attacks that move your character a.k.a. Approach Attacks" listed as a "type of approach" on the Approach article and not see how these articles should be merged? Oi.

This is what should happen:

  • The content should be loosely merged into Approach
  • "Types of Approaches" needs a cleanup, but it should stay basically the same.
  • "Common Approach Attacks" should be listed as a second level 2 header with the information from the Approach Attacks article as it relates to specific characters.
  • It should really have some disambiguation with regards to what games they apply in, too. After all, you can't SHFFL in Brawl.

Yes? Yes. --RJM Talk 17:24, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree. :-| - Amycats2 (talk) 17:49, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Merge. Zixor (talk) 23:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Merge Skrabb-a-log Image:Scorpion.jpg| 40px | What are you waiting for? Click it! 21:22, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Anybody, uh, wanna get on that?Smoreking(T) (c) 18:57, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Bringing this back.
Seriously? How is this an article? This must be why the approach article is a stub. So Merge.Qwerty the lord Nessytrewq.jpg 13:03, 1 July 2014 (EDT)

Wario's Wario Bike is not Wario's body.[edit]

I have a problem with the page stating that a character that Approach Attacks "uses its own body as a projectile." Wario's Wario Bike doesn't use Wario's body as a projectile. It helps the bike by riding it, yes, but that only makes the bike a projectile. Still, Wario's Wario Bike is listed as an approach attack. I suggest we either change the word projectile to approaching, make clear that Wario's Wario Bike is an exception or simply remove the Wario Bike from the list. I am not very sure about what is best for the page, though.

Zelderu Maryoto (talk) 12:37, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

The only thing that has to be changed is the definition as many of these attacks do not involve the use of the character's body, such as Drill Rush, the DACUSes, or the example you gave. All of the attacks listed are approach attacks (except for Wolf's f-smash), we just have a faulty definition listed. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 12:46, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

OK, good job. Yes, Wolf's f-smash seemed a bit weird... Zelderu Maryoto (talk) 17:15, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Merge (2)[edit]

I think this should be merged with Approach.--PSIWolf 09:56, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

I agree. Forbidden7NessHeadSSBM.png 09:57, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

Bump.--PSIWolf (TCE) 05:35, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
Any specific reason for the merge? – SmiddleT 06:44, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
Almost the same thing.--PSIWolf (TCE) 06:45, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
No, not really. An approach attack is a type of approach, in the same way an up smash is a type of smash attack. – SmiddleT 07:08, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
Well, on both pages, there is a list of approaching stuff and an explantation of it, so...--PSIWolf (TCE) 07:09, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

Considering how the current setup of the approach page is, I'll oppose a merge. Each of the various kinds of approaches got their own article, and I see this as no different. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 09:21, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

Side smashes[edit]

Should the space animal's (except for Falco in Brawl) side smashes be considered approaching attacks? All of them move a decent distance. Other side smashes with this property are Link's and Kirby's, to name a few. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 18:11, 24 December 2011 (EST)

No. Their short distance gained combined with their high ending lag does not allow them to be used as approach attacks. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 18:17, 24 December 2011 (EST)

Defining[edit]

Having an article specifically for this type of attack seems weird to me, but while we're here do we really want to list attacks like Luigi Cyclone and Mach Tornado as "approaching attacks"? By that logic every aerial is an approaching attack because you can choose to approach with it. At least with a move like Fox Illusion you are forced to move forward and with Drill Rush you are moving forward at an angle, but with some of these attacks you can move forward, backward, or nowhere at all.--SimnaibnSind (talk) 04:28, September 9, 2022 (EDT)