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:What's the point? Pronouns are already integrated into the text body - I fail to see what adding that to the infobox will achieve. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] the 🦊[[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry''']]🐺. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 09:52, April 24, 2022 (EDT)
:What's the point? Pronouns are already integrated into the text body - I fail to see what adding that to the infobox will achieve. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] the 🦊[[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry''']]🐺. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 09:52, April 24, 2022 (EDT)
:'''Oppose''' per above. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool 🦊Furry🦊 Gamer</span>]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 10:29, April 24, 2022 (EDT)
:'''Oppose''' per above. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool 🦊Furry🦊 Gamer</span>]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 10:29, April 24, 2022 (EDT)
::My issue with the "article body will already contain pronouns" argument is that who's to say the article is using the correct pronouns? we aren't perfect, and keeping a to-date standard would stomp out any misinformation. It wouldn't hurt to have the information right there on the infobox with an embedded link to a source that proves it's actuality. [[File:PhantoFantasmaMiiStockIcon.png|20px]]'''[[User:PhantoFantasma|<span style="color:#f5bac4">Pha</span><span style="color:red">nto</span>]][[User_talk:PhantoFantasma|<span style="color:black">Fantasma</span>]]'''[[File:PFBrawlerIcon.png|20px]] 10:32, April 24, 2022 (EDT)

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Forums: Index Proposals Pronouns on Smasher pages
Proposed.png This discussion is in regards to a proposed change on SmashWiki. The discussion must first meet with a consensus before it is implemented.

Adding pronouns to Smasher pages, it would be a good indicator for editors as well as people just checking someones page. it doesn't have to be used on every smasher article as some people don't have that information readily avaliable, but many recent tournaments and events are starting to include on-screen pronouns for viewers and commentators, that's another easy citation source alongside twitter bios (many smasher pages having their twitter linked making citing even easier), people can argue that it's unimportant, but even our own SmashWiki Discord server even has pronoun roles so we know how to refer to each other, and having proof that the pronouns used on any given page are correct? i don't see any downsides to implementing it as standard. PhantoFantasmaMiiStockIcon.pngPhantoFantasmaPFBrawlerIcon.png 08:29, April 24, 2022 (EDT)

I'm not going to straight-up vote "no", but I will note that your comparisons of other cases do not seem applicable to me. Both livestreams and Discord are real-time chatrooms where there is not much other way to learn this information aside from it being actively/explicitly handed to you. On the other hand, it takes directed effort to write a wiki article that doesn't make this information evident from the text, which seems to be the reason why Wikipedia hasn't done similar after multiple discussions. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Non-Toxic 09:31, April 24, 2022 (EDT)
As said above, the article format of the Smash Wiki means that pronouns are going to be written into the text, making this proposal more or less redundant. For instance, the second sentence in the MkLeo article begins with "he." Pronouns make sense for stream overlays or for Discord community roles. Antimony (talk) 09:49, April 24, 2022 (EDT)
What's the point? Pronouns are already integrated into the text body - I fail to see what adding that to the infobox will achieve. Black Vulpine the 🦊Furry🐺. Furries make the internets go! :3 09:52, April 24, 2022 (EDT)
Oppose per above. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool 🦊Furry🦊 Gamer (talk) 10:29, April 24, 2022 (EDT)
My issue with the "article body will already contain pronouns" argument is that who's to say the article is using the correct pronouns? we aren't perfect, and keeping a to-date standard would stomp out any misinformation. It wouldn't hurt to have the information right there on the infobox with an embedded link to a source that proves it's actuality. PhantoFantasmaMiiStockIcon.pngPhantoFantasmaPFBrawlerIcon.png 10:32, April 24, 2022 (EDT)