Forum:Invitational Tournament Predictions

So what do you expect for the upcoming invitational tourney? Who do you think the 16 "highly skilled" players will be? Which characters do you think will be playable? What rules do you think will be used? ect.

Personally, I'm kinda worried the invitees will purposely sandbag or make a mockery of the tournament to spite Nintendo because smash 4 isn't melee >_>. A lot of the pros seem to dislike smash 4, so I really wonder who they plan to get. ♡FirstaLasto♥ 23:59, 29 April 2014 (EDT)

Considering that the tournament is primarily to promote the game as intended to be played, and it's probably desirable for it to take a predictable amount of time, I suspect it'll be using the ingame tournament mode (a single-elimination bracket) of 2-minute matches with all items on normal and all stages available (and possibly on Random).

I think there's an outside chance that Nintendo will invite actual competitive players, but I don't think it'll happen. If indeed they don't like the game, that's not something you want to be broadcasted to the public. In fact, I hope they don't go for it, mostly for a real pessimistic reason I don't feel like going into right now. Toomai Glittershine The Pan-Galactic 00:29, 30 April 2014 (EDT)

I doubt they would use all the stages available. Probably they will just use the various FD stages, and possibly the standard battlefield (which is a superior stage imo). And yeah, I also hope they don't use actual competitive scene pros, but the way they worded it is pretty unclear right now. ♡FirstaLasto♥ 01:24, 30 April 2014 (EDT)

If Nintendo are actually taking notice of the competitive scene (like they did with Pokémon I think), then it's probably going to be For Glory rules. Scr7(talk · contribs) 10:47, 30 April 2014 (EDT)

I'm pretty certain it's going to be For Glory rules, I see no way that they will do all stages and items on when the For Glory mode was made. Omega Tyrant 13:49, 30 April 2014 (EDT)

No counterpicking makes for a very unbalanced and improper Smash Tournament.--Brian^{Don't try me!} 14:03, 30 April 2014 (EDT)

This is true, but Nintendo most likely don't care about making this tournament work similarly to actual ones, and counterpicking is one of the things that they aren't going to care to implement. Scr7(talk · contribs) 14:08, 30 April 2014 (EDT)

Still a problem. If they truly want to support the competitive scene, they should understand it fully.--Brian^{Don't try me!} 14:16, 30 April 2014 (EDT)

I think I should elaborate. The creation of the For Glory mode, besides catering to what competitive players want, shows that they recognise all items and stages on isn't conductive for competition (FD only isn't optimal, but it's much much better than playing on janky stages and isn't far off from how the Japanese actually play). A tournament by nature is competition based, and the fact it is invitation only shows it's intended to be a higher level showcase. Additionally, you have those "smashfest" being hosted around the country, where the "For Fun" play will probably happen, while the "For Glory" play happens at the tournament.

Regarding the "highly skilled players", I think it's quite likely that they are very prominent Smash pros, because not only would their names make the tournament more legitimate and better showcase the game, simply who else would it be and who else are known for being "highly skilled" at Smash? It's not going to be randoms no one ever heard of it getting the invite. I seen some people suggest big Youtubers, but do they even play Smash and broadcast it, and would they even be referred to as "highly skilled" if that was the case instead of something like "highly popular"? If it was the developers playing themselves, I'm pretty sure they would just state that instead of saying "highly skilled players" are getting invited. Then I seen someone suggest that they would be getting actors to pose as "highly skilled players", which I don't think Nintendo would deceive the fanbase like that and do something that would just give them blatantly bad PR (when this whole thing is clearly a PR stunt for good publicity to ramp up the hype).

Regarding the pros shitting on the game, I'm certain that wouldn't happen with the Brawl pros. Brawl players of all levels are generally excited for Smash 4, and aren't stubborn asses that insist the other Smash games play exactly like their preferred game and will abhor anything that isn't Melee (or will do anything to "take away Melee's popularity". I've additionally seen the likes of Nairo and Zero saying they want to get the invite. I could see this being an issue with the less mature Melee pros, but I would like to think that they wouldn't shit on such an amazing opportunity, especially if they're sponsored or want to be sponsored. Then for Smash 64 pros, there's Isai, who I don't think as someone who shit on the game for no reason, but would probably (most certainly) sandbag it and showcase the game badly. Omega Tyrant 14:23, 30 April 2014 (EDT)