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==Overview==
==Overview==

Revision as of 21:33, September 30, 2018

File:CloudUAir.gif
Hitbox visualization showing Cloud's up aerial.

Overview

Cloud leans down, then pushes the Buster Sword directly above him. A moderately strong aerial, it can reliably KO middleweights at around 135% from Battlefield's top platform.

Despite its average startup and landing lag, this attack has long disjointed horizontal range, deceptive vertical range, low ending lag, long duration and autocancels immediately after all hitboxes are removed. These traits make it a phenomenal anti-air and a pivotal aspect of Cloud's neutral game. Its clean hit serves as an excellent pressure tool and a good combo starter, as it deals high damage for its speed and landing with it can lead into up tilt, neutral aerial, another up aerial, Cross Slash, and even Finishing Touch. Autocancelling it, on the other hand, is great for denying landings and allows it to combo into itself at least twice without fail. The long-lasting late hit is also a reliable combo extender, having just enough hit advantage to reset and continue combos, and especially shines on outlasting air dodges without requiring particularly accurate predictions.

Its numerous positive traits and lack of serious drawbacks make it a feared, all-purpose move that is widely considered the best up aerial in the game.

Update history

When Cloud initially became available, his up aerial dealt 1% more damage with both its clean hit and late hit. Said difference, however, while small, is more significant than it appears to be: as one of Cloud's most used and useful moves even back then, this allowed it to both rack up damage faster with repeated usage in combos, and to KO approximately 13% earlier due to damage being a primary factor in the knockback formula. As such, although the nerf brought by update 1.1.5 barely diminished the move's overall usage, it did noticeably weaken its damage racking ability and KO power.

Super Smash Bros. 4 1.1.5

  • Nerf Damage: 13% → 12% (clean), 9.5% → 8.5% (late).

Hitboxes

ID Part Damage SD Angle BK KS FKV Radius Bone Offset SDIx T% Clang Rebound Type Effect G A Sound Direct
Clean hit
0 0 12% 0 AngleIcon82.png 42 80 0 4.7 25 0.0 15.0 0.0 1.0x 1.2x 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png TypeIcon(Sword).png EffectIcon(Normal).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png M Sound 59 SpecialsDirect.png
1 0 12% 0 AngleIcon82.png 42 80 0 4.7 25 0.0 9.0 0.0 1.0x 1.2x 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png TypeIcon(Sword).png EffectIcon(Normal).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png M Sound 59 SpecialsDirect.png
2 0 12% 0 AngleIcon82.png 42 80 0 4.7 25 0.0 3.0 0.0 1.0x 1.2x 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png TypeIcon(Sword).png EffectIcon(Normal).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png M Sound 59 SpecialsDirect.png
Late hit
0 0 8.5% 0 AngleIcon82.png 42 80 0 3 25 0.0 15.0 0.0 1.0x 1.0x 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png TypeIcon(Sword).png EffectIcon(Normal).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png S Sound 59 SpecialsDirect.png
1 0 8.5% 0 AngleIcon82.png 42 80 0 3 25 0.0 9.0 0.0 1.0x 1.0x 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png TypeIcon(Sword).png EffectIcon(Normal).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png S Sound 59 SpecialsDirect.png
2 0 8.5% 0 AngleIcon82.png 42 80 0 3 25 0.0 3.0 0.0 1.0x 1.0x 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png TypeIcon(Sword).png EffectIcon(Normal).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png S Sound 59 SpecialsDirect.png

Timing

Attack

Initial autocancel 1
Clean hit 7-9
Late hit 10-25
Ending autocancel 26
Interruptible 45
Animation length 64
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FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png

Landing lag

Animation length 15
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Legend (1 square = 1 frame)
FrameIcon(Lag).png
Lag time
FrameIcon(Hitbox).png
Hitbox
FrameIcon(HitboxChangeS).pngFrameIcon(HitboxChangeE).png
Hitbox change
FrameIcon(Autocancel).png
Autocancel
FrameIcon(Interruptible).png
Interruptible

Trivia

  • The immediate autocancelling of this move is a result of poor coding, though whether it was intentional remains unknown. The very same error can be seen in the forward aerials of Donkey Kong and Ganondorf, and their inability to autocancel before being interruptible.