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Every article on the SmashWiki has a corresponding talk page, and are linked by the "discussion" tab. Talk pages are pages used to discuss matters pertaining to the content of the corresponding article, such as asking about the verification of some information in the article, or if a section marked for cleanup should have the cleanup tag removed.

~~For example, this post on the~~ talk page ~~of the [[Falco (SSBB)]] article~~ would be ~~an ideal use of the talk page:~~

==Proper usage==

The following are examples of what proper usage of a talk page would be.

===Discussing an article's deletion/move/merge/split===

<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Deletion==</nowiki>

I think this article should be kept, as its subject is indeed notable to the Smash community because... <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </blockquote>

Obviously, discussion of an article's potential deletion/move/merge/split should be done on its talk page. Though when discussing such, it's advisable you post beyond "I support/oppose this" and/or parroting what another user said, especially if the proposed action is contentious; such posts will be typically ignored when deciding to go through with the action or not, as any proposal on the wiki is not determined by sheer "vote count".

===Discussing erroneous tagging===

This article has a stub tag on it, but what else could we add to it? <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </blockquote>

If an article has a quality or "In need of X" tag that you think doesn't apply to the article, you should discuss it on the article's talk page. Usually it's fine to remove such tags without any prior discussion, but if a previous attempt to remove the tag had been reverted, you should discuss it on the talk page before attempting to remove it. The inverse applies as well; you can usually add such tags to articles without prior discussing, but if the tag has already been removed, it should be discussed before re-adding it.

===Potential information to insert in the article===

<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Combo list==</nowiki>

I was thinking we could add a list of combos to Captain Falcon's article. Would this be appropriate information for the article? <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </blockquote>

If you have an idea for information that can be added to an article, but are not sure if it belongs in the article, are unable to add the information yourself, or just want to discuss with others about information that can be added, bring it up on the article's talk page.

===Potential information to remove from an article===

<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Controversy==</nowiki>

I think the controversy section in this article should be removed, I don't see how it is notable. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </blockquote>

If you think a section or other large parts of an article should be removed, it's strongly advised you discuss on the talk page before attempting to remove it; removal of large amounts of information can be misconstrued as vandalism, and it's likely to be contended.

===Fact checking===

<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Chain throw list==</nowiki>

I noticed this article has a list on how well Falco can chain throw every character. Could someone verify if the information is factual? <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </blockquote>

~~Talk pages however, are not to be used to discuss your opinion of the subject of the~~ article~~. SmashWiki does not care if~~ you ~~think [[Ganondorf (SSBB)|Ganondorf]] is a great character that people shouldn~~'t ~~think is bad, or that [[edge hogging]] should be banned because~~ it's ~~cheap. Telling SmashWiki your opinion does nothing to improve the article~~, ~~and just wastes space~~ on the talk page~~. Save these kinds of posts for~~ the ~~[[Forum:Index|forums]]~~.

If information in an article seems off but you don't know for sure it's not factual, bring it up on the talk page and someone else can verify if the information is indeed correct or not.

~~The following is an example of an unacceptable post on the talk page of the aforementioned Falco SSBB article~~:

===Discussing conflicting edits===

User X, stop re-adding Ness' down tilt to the meteor smash list, it is not a meteor smash as... <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </blockquote>

When another user reverts your edit or removes information you added, do not undo the revert and re-add the removed information; instead bring it up on the talk page and discuss it with the user(s) reverting you. In the case of vandalism or the adding of obvious falsehoods, it's acceptable to not attempt discussing it on the talk page if a user undoes your revert, though in which case, you should notify an administrator instead of just continuing to edit war.

==Improper usage==

The following are examples of improper usage of a talk page.

===Opinion===

<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Falco is overrated!!!==</nowiki>

Falco is so cheap! All he can do is shoot lasers and chain grab people. He should not be rated so high on the tier list!!! </blockquote>

Falco is so cheap! All he can do is shoot lasers and chain grab people. He should not be rated so high on the tier list!!! He's just a little chicken! <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></blockquote>

Talk pages are not to be used to discuss your opinion of the subject of the article. SmashWiki does not care if you think {{SSBB|Ganondorf}} is a great character that people shouldn't think is bad, or that [[edge hogging]] should be banned because it's cheap. Telling SmashWiki your opinion does nothing to improve the article, and just wastes space on the talk page. Save these kinds of posts for the [[Forum:Index|forums]].

===Asking for tips/strategies===

<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Tips for Ice Climbers==</nowiki>

Hi, I recently started playing Ice Climbers in Brawl. Can anyone give me some tips on how to play them? Thanks!! <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </blockquote>

Talk pages are not to be used to ask for help/advice about something relating to the subject of the article. [[SW:NOT#SmashWiki is not tech support|SmashWiki is not a help site for Smash Bros]], and questions asking for advice on talk pages do not help improve the article. Such questions should be asked in the forums.

===Irrelevance===

<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Boomberangs==</nowiki>

Yes but i can tell Link always has boomberangs. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </blockquote>

Simply, if it's not relevant to the article's content, don't post about it.

===Musings===

<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Cloud==</nowiki>

Wouldn't it be cool if Cloud was in Smash 4? <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </blockquote>

Like with opinions, SmashWiki doesn't care about any musings you may have about an article's subject, and such musings does nothing to help improve the article.

===Repetition===

If what you have to discuss has been discussed to resolution before, and you got nothing new to add or nothing happened since the discussion's resolution to make it outdated/irrelevant, do not bring the old discussion back up.

~~Talk pages are also not to be used to ask for help~~/~~advice about something relating to the subject of the article. [[SW:NOT#SmashWiki~~ is ~~not tech support|SmashWiki~~ is ~~not a help site for Smash Bros]], and questions asking for advice on talk pages do not help improve~~ the ~~article~~. ~~Such questions should be asked in the forums~~.

===Arguing tier placements and matchups===

<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Tier list is wrong==</nowiki>

The tier list on here is wrong, this is what the true tier list is... <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </blockquote>

~~The following post~~ on the ~~talk page~~ of the ~~Falco SSBB article~~ is ~~an example of an unacceptable use of a talk page~~:

Do not try arguing tier placements and the listed matchups on the wiki; SmashWiki does not decide the tier list nor matchups, we report what the [[Smash Back Room]] decides. Arguing tier placements and matchups on here is a waste of your time. If you really feel that the SBR is wrong, argue it on [http://www.smashboards.com/ Smashboards], not here.

<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==~~Tips for Falco~~==</nowiki>

===Complaining about an article's content===

~~Hi, I recently started playing Falco in Brawl. Can anyone give me some tips~~ on how ~~to play him~~? ~~Thanks!~~! <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </blockquote>

<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==This article sucks==</nowiki>

Why is there so little information?! Why instead of information on how Toon Link can get KOs is the article telling us how Toon Link's hair moves with the wind?! <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </blockquote>

~~And~~ of ~~course~~, ~~keep all discussion on talk pages relevant~~ to the ~~content~~ of the ~~corresponding~~ article.

Do not use talk pages to complain about issues you have with an article's quality. SmashWiki is a collaborative project worked purely on a voluntary basis that anyone can help with. As such, if there's any issues you have with an article's content, don't complain to the wiki about it. Such complaining does nothing to improve the article, and just annoys other users who are already likely aware of any problems the article may have. Instead, help us and make such improvements to the article yourself; anyone can edit the wiki, including you. Or, if you're completely incapable of making such improvements, at least politely point out on the talk page what you think the article specifically needs.

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 Every article on the SmashWiki has a corresponding talk page, and are linked by the "discussion" tab. Talk pages are pages used to discuss matters pertaining to the content of the corresponding article, such as asking about the verification of some information in the article, or if a section marked for cleanup should have the cleanup tag removed.
-For example, this post on the talk page of the [[Falco (SSBB)]] article would be an ideal use of the talk page:
+==Proper usage==
+The following are examples of what proper usage of a talk page would be.
+===Discussing an article's deletion/move/merge/split===
+<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Deletion==</nowiki><br/>
+I think this article should be kept, as its subject is indeed notable to the Smash community because... <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </font></blockquote>
+Obviously, discussion of an article's potential deletion/move/merge/split should be done on its talk page. Though when discussing such, it's advisable you post beyond "I support/oppose this" and/or parroting what another user said, especially if the proposed action is contentious; such posts will be typically ignored when deciding to go through with the action or not, as any proposal on the wiki is not determined by sheer "vote count".
+===Discussing erroneous tagging===
+<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Stub==</nowiki><br/>
+This article has a stub tag on it, but what else could we add to it? <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </font></blockquote>
+If an article has a quality or "In need of X" tag that you think doesn't apply to the article, you should discuss it on the article's talk page. Usually it's fine to remove such tags without any prior discussion, but if a previous attempt to remove the tag had been reverted, you should discuss it on the talk page before attempting to remove it. The inverse applies as well; you can usually add such tags to articles without prior discussing, but if the tag has already been removed, it should be discussed before re-adding it.
+===Potential information to insert in the article===
+<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Combo list==</nowiki><br/>
+I was thinking we could add a list of combos to Captain Falcon's article. Would this be appropriate information for the article? <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </font></blockquote>
+If you have an idea for information that can be added to an article, but are not sure if it belongs in the article, are unable to add the information yourself, or just want to discuss with others about information that can be added, bring it up on the article's talk page.
+===Potential information to remove from an article===
+<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Controversy==</nowiki><br/>
+I think the controversy section in this article should be removed, I don't see how it is notable. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </font></blockquote>
+If you think a section or other large parts of an article should be removed, it's strongly advised you discuss on the talk page before attempting to remove it; removal of large amounts of information can be misconstrued as vandalism, and it's likely to be contended.
+===Fact checking===
 <blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Chain throw list==</nowiki><br/>
 I noticed this article has a list on how well Falco can chain throw every character. Could someone verify if the information is factual? <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </font></blockquote>
-Talk pages however, are not to be used to discuss your opinion of the subject of the article. SmashWiki does not care if you think [[Ganondorf (SSBB)|Ganondorf]] is a great character that people shouldn't think is bad, or that [[edge hogging]] should be banned because it's cheap. Telling SmashWiki your opinion does nothing to improve the article, and just wastes space on the talk page. Save these kinds of posts for the [[Forum:Index|forums]].
+If information in an article seems off but you don't know for sure it's not factual, bring it up on the talk page and someone else can verify if the information is indeed correct or not.
-The following is an example of an unacceptable post on the talk page of the aforementioned Falco SSBB article:
+===Discussing conflicting edits===
+{{main|SmashWiki:Only revert once}}
+<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Ness' down tilt==</nowiki><br/>
+User X, stop re-adding Ness' down tilt to the meteor smash list, it is not a meteor smash as... <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </font></blockquote>
+When another user reverts your edit or removes information you added, do not undo the revert and re-add the removed information; instead bring it up on the talk page and discuss it with the user(s) reverting you. In the case of vandalism or the adding of obvious falsehoods, it's acceptable to not attempt discussing it on the talk page if a user undoes your revert, though in which case, you should notify an administrator instead of just continuing to edit war.
+==Improper usage==
+The following are examples of improper usage of a talk page.
+===Opinion===
 <blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Falco is overrated!!!==</nowiki><br/>
-Falco is so cheap! All he can do is shoot lasers and chain grab people. He should not be rated so high on the tier list!!! </font></blockquote>
+Falco is so cheap! All he can do is shoot lasers and chain grab people. He should not be rated so high on the tier list!!! He's just a little chicken! <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></font></blockquote>
+Talk pages are not to be used to discuss your opinion of the subject of the article. SmashWiki does not care if you think {{SSBB|Ganondorf}} is a great character that people shouldn't think is bad, or that [[edge hogging]] should be banned because it's cheap. Telling SmashWiki your opinion does nothing to improve the article, and just wastes space on the talk page. Save these kinds of posts for the [[Forum:Index|forums]].
+===Asking for tips/strategies===
+<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Tips for Ice Climbers==</nowiki><br/>
+Hi, I recently started playing Ice Climbers in Brawl. Can anyone give me some tips on how to play them? Thanks!! <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </font></blockquote>
+Talk pages are not to be used to ask for help/advice about something relating to the subject of the article. [[SW:NOT#SmashWiki is not tech support|SmashWiki is not a help site for Smash Bros]], and questions asking for advice on talk pages do not help improve the article. Such questions should be asked in the forums.
+===Irrelevance===
+<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Boomberangs==</nowiki><br/>
+Yes but i can tell Link always has boomberangs. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </font></blockquote>
+Simply, if it's not relevant to the article's content, don't post about it.
+===Musings===
+<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Cloud==</nowiki><br/>
+Wouldn't it be cool if Cloud was in Smash 4? <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </font></blockquote>
+Like with opinions, SmashWiki doesn't care about any musings you may have about an article's subject, and such musings does nothing to help improve the article.
+===Repetition===
+If what you have to discuss has been discussed to resolution before, and you got nothing new to add or nothing happened since the discussion's resolution to make it outdated/irrelevant, do not bring the old discussion back up.
-Talk pages are also not to be used to ask for help/advice about something relating to the subject of the article. [[SW:NOT#SmashWiki is not tech support|SmashWiki is not a help site for Smash Bros]], and questions asking for advice on talk pages do not help improve the article. Such questions should be asked in the forums.
+===Arguing tier placements and matchups===
+<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Tier list is wrong==</nowiki><br/>
+The tier list on here is wrong, this is what the true tier list is... <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </font></blockquote>
-The following post on the talk page of the Falco SSBB article is an example of an unacceptable use of a talk page:
+Do not try arguing tier placements and the listed matchups on the wiki; SmashWiki does not decide the tier list nor matchups, we report what the [[Smash Back Room]] decides. Arguing tier placements and matchups on here is a waste of your time. If you really feel that the SBR is wrong, argue it on [http://www.smashboards.com/ Smashboards], not here.
-<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==Tips for Falco==</nowiki><br/>
+===Complaining about an article's content===
-Hi, I recently started playing Falco in Brawl. Can anyone give me some tips on how to play him? Thanks!! <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </font></blockquote>
+<blockquote><font="Courier New"><nowiki>==This article sucks==</nowiki><br/>
+Why is there so little information?! Why instead of information on how Toon Link can get KOs is the article telling us how Toon Link's hair moves with the wind?! <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> </font></blockquote>
-And of course, keep all discussion on talk pages relevant to the content of the corresponding article.
+Do not use talk pages to complain about issues you have with an article's quality. SmashWiki is a collaborative project worked purely on a voluntary basis that anyone can help with. As such, if there's any issues you have with an article's content, don't complain to the wiki about it. Such complaining does nothing to improve the article, and just annoys other users who are already likely aware of any problems the article may have. Instead, help us and make such improvements to the article yourself; anyone can edit the wiki, including you. Or, if you're completely incapable of making such improvements, at least politely point out on the talk page what you think the article specifically needs.
 ==User talk pages==