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== Ally ==
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Just as a heads up, we don't need info on every single character Ally has ever touched in Brawl and Smash 4. If Ally never used a majority of them at least semi-seriously (for example, he barely ever touched Mario in Brawl), they don't belong on his page. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 16:13, 22 May 2018 (EDT)
== Question on the difference between semi-professional and professional? ==


==Please give it some effort==
I noticed you changed RockstarAce to semiprofessional. That doesnt bother me or anything, but i wanted to get a little clarification for when I make future pages.
What you did for [[Smasher:Ralphie]] has been deemed a zero-effort article. According to [[SW:SMASHER]], every new Smasher article must contain three things, as detailed as possible:
#An info box ({{n|16}} A name and location alone tells us nothing. As a side note, adding an image placeholder is not permitted as it creates an undesired red link. Images must ALWAYS be uploaded first)
#A short '''paragraph''' summarising the smasher's accomplishments and the smasher themselves ({{n|16}} A single sentence will not cut it, even if a list of 'such as' names is included)
#Tournament results ({{n|16}})
Articles made with zero-effort usually get deleted quickly. I strongly suggest you add more information while you still can. If it gets deleted before you get to it, however, feel free to make the article again, but make sure you add more information next time. Thank you. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 20:26, 22 May 2018 (EDT)


== Check your grammar ==
RockstarAce got 17th at an A tier and 49th at an S tier. Those peaks seem consistent with other players marked professional (say John Numbers or Acestarthe3rd) but unlike John Numbers his drop offs are pretty severe. And he doesnt always consistently place at the top at locals .


I've noticed that you miss the space bar after typing in a period (.) a lot. Are you okay? Please try to make sure you space your punctuation correctly. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 05:19, 27 May 2018 (EDT)
Is consistency the difference or is there something else I should be looking for when putting them in a category.  


I am editing on phone so probably a bit hard to tell. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:NaughtyPigMario|NaughtyPigMario]] ([[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/NaughtyPigMario|contribs]]) 05:30, 27 May 2018 (EDT)</small>
Thanks again for all the help, and sorry for any messes I've made on the pages. [[User:Wiifitkid|Wiifitkid]] ([[User talk:Wiifitkid|talk]]) 09:05, April 6, 2020 (EDT)
:Not NPM, but I generally look at the national tournaments to determine whether "professional" or "semi-professional" fits better. Generally, if there's a good placement at the stacked tournaments it warrants the professional status (say, 65/3,534 is better than 65/160). On the other hand, if the player consistently places well at regionals, then the smasher deserves the professional status. Finally, top player wins also show that the Smasher has potential to defeat some of the best, so if a player has several PGR player wins outside of locals, I believe they deserve the status.
:The main difference that JN and Ace have with RockstarAce is that they have better consistency, whether it's on a national or regional level. RockstarAce's national placements range from 17th to 385th and do tend to be on the weaker side, and his regional placement is limited but workable. I did take a look at the more local results and RockstarAce seems to do pretty fine locally, plus he has wins over some PGR players, so I don't see a big problem giving him a professional status, although this is a more borderline case imo. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 09:17, April 6, 2020 (EDT)


No problem, though please also try to sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). Please be careful about your punctuation spacing, as I have had to go back and clean up after you for many of your recent edits. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 05:44, 27 May 2018 (EDT)
Thanks that helps a lot. [[User:Wiifitkid|Wiifitkid]] ([[User talk:Wiifitkid|talk]]) 15:08, April 7, 2020 (EDT)


I need to poke you about this issue again. It’s especially important if you’re going to create entirely new pages. Please try to space your punctuation correctly, even if you edit on your phone. I do a good portion of my work on the phone after all. Keep up the good work regardless. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 09:46, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
== Specific location ==


== Notable players ==
Some smashers (like {{Sm|Chexr}}) have specific location of city and state, and some (like {{Sm|Seven}}) have only their country's name. What defines if player gets the former treatment? [[Special:Contributions/46.229.158.109|46.229.158.109]] 13:02, May 3, 2020 (EDT)


For the record, not every player that is listed under a "professional" category for a player should go on the "notable players" section for character pages. Only the most notable of those players are supposed to go on there. Also, the "notable players" sections are specifically for results in singles as well. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 09:46, 27 May 2018 (EDT)
:If Seven's exact location is found, we can easily add the city name to the infobox, otherwise, it will just stay as Japan. There aint any actual limitations. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">自閉肥宅</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 13:07, May 3, 2020 (EDT)
::Also, some people don't want their exact locations revealed. In those cases, only the state or region is covered. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 13:09, May 3, 2020 (EDT)
:::OK, thanks! [[Special:Contributions/46.229.158.109|46.229.158.109]] 13:13, May 3, 2020 (EDT)


<s>Is ZeRo not a notable Cloud then? [[User:NaughtyPigMario|NaughtyPigMario]] ([[User talk:NaughtyPigMario#top|talk]]) 09:50, 27 May 2018 (EDT)</s>
== Troll ==


<s>Wow!!! You just delete all the hard work I did. [[User:NaughtyPigMario|NaughtyPigMario]] ([[User talk:NaughtyPigMario#top|talk]]) 09:52, 27 May 2018 (EDT)</s>
This IP is messing up the results for Apex 2013, Apex 2014, and Smash Con 2017:
:ZeRo hasn't actually beaten Ally, Anti, or falln in sets with Cloud (at best, he's taken games in sets he's lost in). He did beat Dabuz with Cloud once, but that's the only (current) PGR win he has with the character. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 10:08, 27 May 2018 (EDT)
https://www.ssbwiki.com/User:90.204.94.130 [[User:MemeDedede|MemeDedede]] ([[User talk:MemeDedede|talk]]) 14:41, May 5, 2020 (EDT)
:Also, I wasn't specifically targeting your edits, I just removed all players whose only justification(s) for being on that list were being ranked on a PR (without any mention of who they beat), maining that character in doubles (a lot of players use Cloud in doubles and doubles is irrelevant to that list anyway), or simply using him as a secondary without a sigificant amount of really notable wins. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 10:16, 27 May 2018 (EDT)


<s>If they are ranked PR. Thats mean they must have the ability or even defeat sb to do so. So please stop deleting everything before thinking. If you need the player who got beaten. I can add it. But just stop deleting everything. All you do is deleting. If you love deleting so much, why not delete the whole page. Delete the whole wiki... OK I should stop ranting. But next dont just delete everything because I might find prove and evidance for certain player to be able to list on that page. [[User:NaughtyPigMario|NaughtyPigMario]] ([[User talk:NaughtyPigMario#top|talk]]) 10:26, 27 May 2018 (EDT)</s>
== F|ags ==
:Don't throw out accusations towards me just because I reverted your edits. First of all, not all PRs are created equally. There is clearly a difference between beating local-level threats and regional/national-level threats. Secondly, your grammar/punctuation needs work in a lot of your edits (what is "sb", for example?). Lastly, there was no reason to add every single Cloud player from the "Cloud professionals" category, since a lot of those include secondary/pocket/doubles only Clouds. All of these factors combined are why I reverted you... I didn't just do it without thinking. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 10:34, 27 May 2018 (EDT)


<s>sb is just short for somebody. I guess whatever then. Probably not going to edit that much anymore. Because I either always edit wrong or not working. I shouldnt waste to much time on this. [[User:NaughtyPigMario|NaughtyPigMario]] ([[User talk:NaughtyPigMario#top|talk]]) 11:20, 27 May 2018 (EDT)</s>
Some english smashers have England flag and some have the UK's. Which one is correct? If first, does it apply US states flags as well? [[Special:Contributions/46.229.158.109|46.229.158.109]] 10:18, May 8, 2020 (EDT)


I know that you are an Ally fan, but please stop adding every pocket character he uses at locals on the "Notable players" sections. Locals by definition are not as notable as regionals or nationals. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 06:16, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
:From what I believe, if the English smasher exact location is unknown, they the UK flag is used. If we know the smasher's city is England then we usually use the England flag, unless the smasher requested to hide the city. Yeah these probably applies to other countries as well. But for US isnt there only 1 USA flag? [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">自閉肥宅</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 10:27, May 8, 2020 (EDT)
::Like UK [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_U.S._states_and_territories they have]. If other big regions have them, i propose adding them too [[Special:Contributions/46.229.158.109|46.229.158.109]] 11:02, May 8, 2020 (EDT)
:::The US is different than the UK. The 50 states are not separate countries - despite having their own government - and are all represented under the US flag. The UK is basically a country of countries; England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland are countries but are part of the country of UK.
:::I use the flags of the individual countries instead of UK since I believe those are more accurate. They are from that country, and as such should be represented with that flag. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 11:02, May 8, 2020 (EDT)
::::OK, got it [[Special:Contributions/46.229.158.109|46.229.158.109]] 12:12, May 10, 2020 (EDT)
::I think that's how it is supposed to work *in theory*, but in practice, for example [[Scr7]], a smasher known to hail from Manchester, is inconsistently labeled with UK and England flags. --[[User:Rdrfc|Rdrfc]] ([[User talk:Rdrfc|talk]]) 11:15, May 8, 2020 (EDT)


== Broken image links ==
In the end, I think it came down to preference. I'm guessing we should make a proposal for all of this. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 11:20, May 8, 2020 (EDT)
:I just assumed it was because the UK is multiple nations that are part of one country. The closest thing in the US would be places like Guam or Puerto Rico. In which case you we would use those flags as they arent states. [[User:Wiifitkid|Wiifitkid]] ([[User talk:Wiifitkid|talk]]) 11:26, May 8, 2020 (EDT)


Please do not add image links before actually uploading the image. This creates a broken image link and these show up as an image error on the page, as well as an auto-category on Recent Changes that needs to be fixed. If you have an image to add, please upload it first, and then insert the link on the page. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 08:23, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
== Mistake ==


== Japanese templates ==
Sorries about my mistakes in the Box. Thank you for fixing them [[User:Howplayz|Howplayz]] ([[User talk:Howplayz|talk]]) 00:03, May 11, 2020 (EDT) [[User:Howplayz|Howplayz]] ([[User talk:Howplayz|talk]]) 00:03, May 11, 2020 (EDT)


I'm curious what you're tring to do by making Japanese copies of some of our templates. Sure you can do whatever in userspace, but somehow I doubt that's the extent of your intent. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Orchestral 10:36, 10 June 2018 (EDT)
:No problem! [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]] [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">自閉肥宅</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 00:05, May 11, 2020 (EDT)


== Note on your new Smash Ultimate additions ==
== SW:SIG ==


Hey, I appreciate you adding in the new info from https://ssbworld.com/blog/248/smash-ultimate-changes-buffs-nerfs-so-far. However, please don't just copy paste word-for-word and put some effort into editing the points. If it's simply an info dump, you might as well stop updating and allow me to reword it all, since I'm spending my time doing that already. [[User:Archrelico|Archrelico]] ([[User talk:Archrelico|talk]]) 02:32, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
As per [[SW:SIG]], you are only allowed to have two images and/or emojis. Gonna reccomend removing one of the images or emoji as emoji's count as an image. Thanks [[File:S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.png|20px]] [[User:S3AHAWK|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:Blue;">S3AHAWK</span>]] ([[User talk:S3AHAWK|''<span style=" font-family: Comic Sans MS;color: Red;">talk</span>'']])[[File:S3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png|20px]] 21:14, July 12, 2020 (EDT)


== Your signature... ==
:Changed, removed the pig (sadness) [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''NPM'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">Morr!?</span>'']] [[File:NaughtyPigBoi.jpg|23x20px]] 21:20, July 12, 2020 (EDT)


…[https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Diddy_Kong_(SSB4)&curid=40999&diff=1060131&oldid=991126 as seen here], is unfortunately not acceptable. Please fix it at [[Special:Preferences]] by either checking the wikitext box, or by modifying the text within to be compatible with an automatically generated signature. Thanks! [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 02:56, 2 July 2018 (EDT)
== SSBU page ==


== Use of preview ==
bro why the heck did u get rid of my edit 6 minutes after i made it lol <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:SakuraiWhy|SakuraiWhy]] ([[User talk:SakuraiWhy|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/SakuraiWhy|contribs]]) 13:02, November 2, 2020 (EDT)</small>
 
{{reminder|prev}}
You've been making lots of rapid-fire edits on [[Smasher:Daybreak]]. Please try to make your edits in one go. Thanks! [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 09:23, 11 July 2018 (EDT)
 
Sorry, I have the experience of losing my changes because I left the page too long while searching for information. But I will try my best to do so. [[User:Example|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] 10:35, 11 July 2018 (EDT)
:You mean the "loss of session data" thing? Don't worry about it, just press "show preview" again and the changes will still be there. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 11:37, 11 July 2018 (EDT)
 
No, I think when I left the page too long, then I come back at the mobile web editing page. The page just refresh and loss the changes sometimes (before I hit the save button). It happens twice I think, and I just give up editing that page. [[User:Example|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] 11:52, 11 July 2018 (EDT)
:Ah, then your mobile device is just hard refreshing the page. What I would recommend is copying the entire contents of the page, placing it in some sort of note-taking app, and editing it there all at once, before going back to the page and replacing everything with what you've edited.
:On a side note, your signature [[SW:SIG|doesn't comply with the rules]]; it also doesn't even link to your userpage, instead going to [User:Example|here]. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 11:56, 11 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== Your predicament ==
 
I did some investigating, and it turns out that [[Smasher:????]] is a blacklisted name. Not even the sysops can help with this, only the wiki's owner, Porplemontage, can override it. So what I've done is messaged him on Discord to get him to help out, and we'll see if we can get him to make the page for us. In the meantime, keep track of the pages where you insert {{sm|PlayerUnknown}}, so that we may change these links later should Porple grant the override. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 09:00, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
 
OK thanks for the help! [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] 09:02, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== Updating images ==
I noticed that you were having trouble seeing the updated versions of images you just uploaded. This isn't actually a problem with the wiki and is instead a problem with most browsers. Your browser loads the last cached image on the page in order to save load time. Images with newer versions eventually update over time, but if you really want it to update quickly, then you'll have to clear your browser's cache. I would recommend simply waiting for your browser to recognize the new version, but that's up to you. I hope this can help you in future image uploadings. [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 02:25, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
 
Yeah, I think it is the Cookie thing, I have figured it out. [[File:Grand Dad.png|19px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23px]] 02:28, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
 
 
==About Ally's 2018 history.==
I just wanted to ask, is it really necessary to mention weeklies/locals when focusing on Ally's results so far? Events like those do not mean as much as nationals, and it only looks out of place paired with GENESIS or Hyrule Saga for example. And has he had the worst season of any PGR representative this season? Not trying to sound rude, but I noticed how that section seems a bit exaggerated, even if it is mostly true. [[User:Iridium77|Iridium77]] ([[User talk:Iridium77|talk]]) 10:13, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
 
<s>I don't know is he necessary the worst season out of all PGR player, but 2018 is obviously Ally worst year. He is being placed out of Top 8 so much. Well, in the page maybe I did edit some unnecessary stuff in there. [[File:Grand Dad.png|19px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23px]] 10:18, 22 July 2018 (EDT)</s>
 
==[[SW:TALK]]==
Hey there, I saw that you deleted your talk page comment. I understand the reasoning behind deleting it (not getting any responses), but deleting talk page posts is actually against SmashWiki's talk page policy. It's nothing too major of course, just giving you a friendly reminder not to do it again. If you really do need to delete something, you can always just use strikethrough. <nowiki><s> </s></nowiki>. Example: <s>strikethrough</s> [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 03:29, 25 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== Kameme and Yoshi ==
 
Kameme is not the best Yoshi just because Yoshi is next to his name on the PGR. It is well-known that Kameme is a Mega Man/Sheik dual main, and those are the characters who actually got him ranked; meanwhile, Kameme's Yoshi rarely ever nets him valuable wins and he loses with the character more often than not, especially in 2018.
In addition, posting something like "Kameme got ranked on the PGR with Yoshi" is misleading since he beat absolutely no one of note with Yoshi during the v5 season. For ESAM and Samus, it's less misleading since his Samus has netted him wins, but he still goes Pikachu in 90% of his sets. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 05:47, 31 July 2018 (EDT)
 
Actually, what have Kameme's Yoshi done in this season to make him ranked on the PGR? Are you sure it is not PGStats' mistake? [[File:Grand Dad.png|19px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23px]] 01:05, 1 August 2018 (EDT)
 
:I think it's probably the same thing that happened with v3 with falln (Mii Gunner) and Elegant (Mario/G&W), who had those characters added next to their names despite not actually beating anyone with them. I'm still confused to this day about why PGStats added those characters for Elegant since I never once saw him use them at all during the v3 season outside of locals. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 01:45, 1 August 2018 (EDT)
 
Yeah, I am especially confused. What is the actual format behind this? Why isn't Ally Cloud ranked when he beat {{Sm|Wrath}} and Nairo Diddy isn't on old PGR either when he beat {{Sm|Salem}}? [[File:Grand Dad.png|19px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23px]] 01:50, 1 August 2018 (EDT)
 
So when they use whatever characters in locals, the character is going to be ranked? That's weird! [[File:Grand Dad.png|19px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23px]] 01:52, 1 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== About that tourney page you added.  ==
 
You know that tourney is fake, right? This has been confirmed to be fake months ago. [[User:Iridium77|Iridium77]] ([[User talk:Iridium77|talk]]) 12:29, 26 August 2018 (EDT) [[User:Iridium77|Iridium77]] ([[User talk:Iridium77|talk]]) 12:29, 26 August 2018 (EDT)

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Question on the difference between semi-professional and professional?[edit]

I noticed you changed RockstarAce to semiprofessional. That doesnt bother me or anything, but i wanted to get a little clarification for when I make future pages.

RockstarAce got 17th at an A tier and 49th at an S tier. Those peaks seem consistent with other players marked professional (say John Numbers or Acestarthe3rd) but unlike John Numbers his drop offs are pretty severe. And he doesnt always consistently place at the top at locals .

Is consistency the difference or is there something else I should be looking for when putting them in a category.

Thanks again for all the help, and sorry for any messes I've made on the pages. Wiifitkid (talk) 09:05, April 6, 2020 (EDT)

Not NPM, but I generally look at the national tournaments to determine whether "professional" or "semi-professional" fits better. Generally, if there's a good placement at the stacked tournaments it warrants the professional status (say, 65/3,534 is better than 65/160). On the other hand, if the player consistently places well at regionals, then the smasher deserves the professional status. Finally, top player wins also show that the Smasher has potential to defeat some of the best, so if a player has several PGR player wins outside of locals, I believe they deserve the status.
The main difference that JN and Ace have with RockstarAce is that they have better consistency, whether it's on a national or regional level. RockstarAce's national placements range from 17th to 385th and do tend to be on the weaker side, and his regional placement is limited but workable. I did take a look at the more local results and RockstarAce seems to do pretty fine locally, plus he has wins over some PGR players, so I don't see a big problem giving him a professional status, although this is a more borderline case imo. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 09:17, April 6, 2020 (EDT)

Thanks that helps a lot. Wiifitkid (talk) 15:08, April 7, 2020 (EDT)

Specific location[edit]

Some smashers (like Chexr) have specific location of city and state, and some (like Seven) have only their country's name. What defines if player gets the former treatment? 46.229.158.109 13:02, May 3, 2020 (EDT)

If Seven's exact location is found, we can easily add the city name to the infobox, otherwise, it will just stay as Japan. There aint any actual limitations. Grand Dad.png Naughty🐽GRAND DAD 自閉肥宅 NiceGrand.jpeg 13:07, May 3, 2020 (EDT)
Also, some people don't want their exact locations revealed. In those cases, only the state or region is covered. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 13:09, May 3, 2020 (EDT)
OK, thanks! 46.229.158.109 13:13, May 3, 2020 (EDT)

Troll[edit]

This IP is messing up the results for Apex 2013, Apex 2014, and Smash Con 2017: https://www.ssbwiki.com/User:90.204.94.130 MemeDedede (talk) 14:41, May 5, 2020 (EDT)

F|ags[edit]

Some english smashers have England flag and some have the UK's. Which one is correct? If first, does it apply US states flags as well? 46.229.158.109 10:18, May 8, 2020 (EDT)

From what I believe, if the English smasher exact location is unknown, they the UK flag is used. If we know the smasher's city is England then we usually use the England flag, unless the smasher requested to hide the city. Yeah these probably applies to other countries as well. But for US isnt there only 1 USA flag? Grand Dad.png Naughty🐽GRAND DAD 自閉肥宅 NiceGrand.jpeg 10:27, May 8, 2020 (EDT)
Like UK they have. If other big regions have them, i propose adding them too 46.229.158.109 11:02, May 8, 2020 (EDT)
The US is different than the UK. The 50 states are not separate countries - despite having their own government - and are all represented under the US flag. The UK is basically a country of countries; England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland are countries but are part of the country of UK.
I use the flags of the individual countries instead of UK since I believe those are more accurate. They are from that country, and as such should be represented with that flag. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 11:02, May 8, 2020 (EDT)
OK, got it 46.229.158.109 12:12, May 10, 2020 (EDT)
I think that's how it is supposed to work *in theory*, but in practice, for example Scr7, a smasher known to hail from Manchester, is inconsistently labeled with UK and England flags. --Rdrfc (talk) 11:15, May 8, 2020 (EDT)

In the end, I think it came down to preference. I'm guessing we should make a proposal for all of this. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 11:20, May 8, 2020 (EDT)

I just assumed it was because the UK is multiple nations that are part of one country. The closest thing in the US would be places like Guam or Puerto Rico. In which case you we would use those flags as they arent states. Wiifitkid (talk) 11:26, May 8, 2020 (EDT)

Mistake[edit]

Sorries about my mistakes in the Box. Thank you for fixing them Howplayz (talk) 00:03, May 11, 2020 (EDT) Howplayz (talk) 00:03, May 11, 2020 (EDT)

No problem! Grand Dad.png Naughty🐽GRAND DAD 自閉肥宅 NiceGrand.jpeg 00:05, May 11, 2020 (EDT)

SW:SIG[edit]

As per SW:SIG, you are only allowed to have two images and/or emojis. Gonna reccomend removing one of the images or emoji as emoji's count as an image. Thanks This image is my signature icon. Also seen on Wikibound as File:S3AHAWK SIG.png S3AHAWK (talk)This is my signature icon 21:14, July 12, 2020 (EDT)

Changed, removed the pig (sadness) Grand Dad.png NPM Morr!? NaughtyPigBoi.jpg 21:20, July 12, 2020 (EDT)

SSBU page[edit]

bro why the heck did u get rid of my edit 6 minutes after i made it lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by SakuraiWhy (talkcontribs) 13:02, November 2, 2020 (EDT)