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#'''Oppose'''. If a character is seldom used in the metagame, then they're gonna have less players and therefore less players in their respective categories. Adding a threshold would just lead to a bunch of no-effort or low-effort pages and sharply increase the pages in "Articles in need of tournament results" maintenance category, which is already somewhat of a problem right now. In addition, we already have a problem with characters in infoboxes, and I don't want to deal with people arguing that their Corrin they used for a few Wi-Fi tournaments is sufficient enough to have the "Corrin professional" category just so they could help reach the character threshold. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:49, March 30, 2021 (EDT) | #'''Oppose'''. If a character is seldom used in the metagame, then they're gonna have less players and therefore less players in their respective categories. Adding a threshold would just lead to a bunch of no-effort or low-effort pages and sharply increase the pages in "Articles in need of tournament results" maintenance category, which is already somewhat of a problem right now. In addition, we already have a problem with characters in infoboxes, and I don't want to deal with people arguing that their Corrin they used for a few Wi-Fi tournaments is sufficient enough to have the "Corrin professional" category just so they could help reach the character threshold. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:49, March 30, 2021 (EDT) | ||
#'''Oppose''': This is frankly a terrible idea, characters are naturally played to vastly varying degrees and it's not the wiki's responsibility to try putting up a facade that we have just as many Isabelle players as we do Joker players. Cookies is additionally right that trying to force a minimum in each character category will just lead to people adding the category to players that just touched the character a few times (which is already a problem we're in the process of fixing) and to creating articles of marginal players that aren't noteworthy. If there aren't a whole lot of people noteworthy for playing those "underrepresented characters", then that's just the cold hard facts and we have to report it as it is. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 19:43, March 30, 2021 (EDT) | |||
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Seeing as we have another proposal related to bias...
As someone who has been quick to notice that certain characters are languishing from a lack of (categorised) professionals, I'd like to propose a page (similar to Wikipedia's Systemic Bias page, or rather, its counter-page) that aims to help with this. I also think that the Wanted Pages/Pages to Improve template should prioritise Smashers who main these characters.
The page would list a target number of Smashers to be in a character's category; once a character's target is reached, they can be taken off the page - and yes, characters can also be added to the page.
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- Oppose. If a character is seldom used in the metagame, then they're gonna have less players and therefore less players in their respective categories. Adding a threshold would just lead to a bunch of no-effort or low-effort pages and sharply increase the pages in "Articles in need of tournament results" maintenance category, which is already somewhat of a problem right now. In addition, we already have a problem with characters in infoboxes, and I don't want to deal with people arguing that their Corrin they used for a few Wi-Fi tournaments is sufficient enough to have the "Corrin professional" category just so they could help reach the character threshold. Cookies
Creme 18:49, March 30, 2021 (EDT) - Oppose: This is frankly a terrible idea, characters are naturally played to vastly varying degrees and it's not the wiki's responsibility to try putting up a facade that we have just as many Isabelle players as we do Joker players. Cookies is additionally right that trying to force a minimum in each character category will just lead to people adding the category to players that just touched the character a few times (which is already a problem we're in the process of fixing) and to creating articles of marginal players that aren't noteworthy. If there aren't a whole lot of people noteworthy for playing those "underrepresented characters", then that's just the cold hard facts and we have to report it as it is. Omega Tyrant
19:43, March 30, 2021 (EDT)
