Talk:Mario Tornado

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his SSB and SSBM Dair was that drill-like kick, right? it seems very similar to his Tornado, but it still seems like speculation at this point. i didn't notice all of his other air attacks in trailers/screenshots, but if someone paid well enough attention to catch all of the other ones and has screenshots to confirm, i guess we can list the Tornado as likely to be his new Dair. FyreNWater 23:04, September 8, 2007 (EDT)

dr. tornado needs its own page. Kperfekt722 (talk) 08:04, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Why? All three tornadoes are identical except for directional movement and knockback. All three (four?) involve the same pose of spinning with appendages outstretched. It's like giving a separate page to all three landmasters... - Gargomon251 (talk) 08:12, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

...well i think that wolfs landmaster is different enough, but then i would think that falcos needs its own. ANYWAYS, if doctor tornado doesnt have its own, why does the luigi cyclone? and what is the forth? d-air?

Luigi Cyclone has a different article because it has a different name and effect. Dr. Tornado is very similar to Mario Tornado. About the Landmasters, they are named equally but since they have slightly different characteristics, maybe they should be in different articles. Xeze (talk) 18:28, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


we shoul have pictures of it as a special move. Solar flute (talk)

Luigi cyclone[edit]

Is this different enough from the Luigi Cyclone to be a different article? Mr. Anon (talk) 20:32, 3 March 2011 (EST)

I say yes because in Brawl one is a special move and the other is not. Toomai Glittershine ??? The SMASH-GINEER 22:31, 3 March 2011 (EST)
Eh... is that really enough to make the articles seperate? Mr. Anon (talk) 00:52, 5 March 2011 (EST)
They're not the same move, and you're not providing any reasoning yourself to merge the articles. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 05:24, 5 March 2011 (EST)
They are pretty much the same move, with virtually the same animation and (at least in the first two games) sound. They have a few differences in knockback and damage, but so does the Dr. Tornado. Mr. Anon (talk) 15:28, 5 March 2011 (EST)
They're far from "pretty much the same move". Mario's nair in Melee and his nair in Brawl are pretty much the same move, the Bros.' tornadoes are not. Luigi's has slight animation differences in his cyclone in Brawl, and the move have more differences than knockback and damage. Luigi Cyclone slides along the ground farther and faster than Mario's Tornado does. But as Toomai pointed out, Mario's is no longer a special move, and I'll point out that Luigi's Cyclone in Brawl is definitely a semi-clone move at most if you compare it to Mario's Melee tornado. And I'm of the opinion that special move articles should not be shared unless they are undisputed clone moves with near duplicate similarities in name, animation, and function. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 17:03, 5 March 2011 (EST)


I support a split for the reasons given in the template. Blue Ninjakoopa 16:20, 15 September 2014 (EDT)

Support: I hate how cloned moves have to share pages anyway. Guybrush20X6 (talk) 10:25, 18 September 2014 (EDT)
Strong support: Since Dr. Mario kept his down special, and Mario's was changed to a down aerial in Brawl, it would be awkward to have a customization section in this state. Berrenta (talk) 11:42, 18 September 2014 (EDT)
Support: I agree with both Blue Ninjakoopa and Guybrush20X6, Dr. Tornado should have its own article. Just like what Guybrush20X6 said, "it would be awkward to have a customization section in this state". SonicSpeed48 (talk) 12:42, 23 September 2014 (EDT)
Do it Now: Per above. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatum 14:04, 23 September 2014 (EDT)
Support Same reason I support Fire Bird and Electroshock Arm getting their own pages, and also per above. Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 18:06, 28 September 2014 (EDT)