Talk:Co-Op Event 5: The Yoshi Team of 50

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Edit war[edit]

The article should be kept as it currently is. There is no "strategy" paragraph or obviously subjective information. Toomai Glittershine Toomai.png eXemplary Logic 17:04, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

This site is useless.... :( -Zixor (talk) 21:51, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
Would you care to explain why you believe your version of the article is better than Omega Tyrant's? Toomai Glittershine Toomai.png The Table Designer 22:05, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
sorry for my depressed outburst. It's better because it actually has more useful information. What I don't understand about how arguments get solved on wikis is how they can when the specifics points are not addressed. -I listed them on my talk page. Zixor (talk) 23:40, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Here are the specific points. You kept on putting that this is one of the hardest events in the game, which is opinionated and shouldn't belong. We don't mention anything about event 41 being difficult and I am certainly not alone when saying that this event is the one of, if not the most difficult in the game. The other point was that you kept on putting that items should not be used, which is opinionated and most people would disagree with it. Would a Cracker Launcher or a pokeball containing Lati@s not be useful? The u-tilt information and load times were valid information and kept in the article in a more objective matter. This isn't to beat you down, but you shouldn't put in subjective information in this Wiki's articles or strategies sections/paragraphs that already been decided that don't belong. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 00:25, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
Just because some people have decided that some "objective" information doesn't belong, does not make it a necessarily true fact. That's why we have talk pages. That's why I'm here talking about it, and will continue to do so until I'm convinced otherwise.
Opinions absolutely have a place in an encyclopedic format, and they can even be stated as such by saying "The general consensus is" and the like. If someone does not agree that this (for example) is one of, if not the most, difficult co-op event in the game, let them argue their point on those grounds, not on whether or not it even belongs in a wiki. To NOT include something so clearly relevant to any reader would be a downright disservice to them.
The same goes for items. In this event, MOST items are a hindrance -true or false?
I also now concede that until these issues are sorted out here, they should not be added to the page, provided that there is constructive progress. -Zixor (talk) 01:23, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
No, an opinion that is believed by one or a few people have no place on this Wiki. Why are you so adamant about saying this event is one of the most difficult in the game and that items are not useful? Quite frankly, I did not find this event to be difficult at all on hard. There are also many items that are useful. There are many pokemon and assist trophies that would be useful. A cracker launcher would get you 16 easy kills. A ray gun would also get you 16 easy kills. A thrown fan can easily OHKO any Yoshi in this event and OHKO any Yoshi it bounced into afterwards. A star rod and home-run bat would easily work in the same fashion. The hammers would just destroy the Yoshis. The hothead would destroy any Yoshi on this event and continue to OHKO them as it traverses the ship. The bumper can be set up where the Yoshi would spawn and would instantly kill them whenever they spawn. A unira could be set up on the crow's nest and instantly kill the Yoshis whenever they spawn. As you can see, a large amount of items would be useful in this event, not an hindrance.
As for community consensus, you're also the only one who voiced support in inserting that this event is difficult and that items are not useful. So as of now, it is community consensus that what you kept inserting into this article doesn't belong. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 04:09, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
Agreed. Stratagies don't belong here. But Zixor, you say that it's taking out good information. You're right. Except there's already a place for that. It's called the Strategy Wiki. Put stuff there instead of here. Smash Wiki is an encyclopedia. You don't see Wikipedia have walkthroughs about games on it. Mr. Anon (talk) 04:37, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
Omega, I now agree with you about items. Why? Because you actually made a compelling and relevant argument. I may even be willing to overlook the difficulty information if I had evidence supporting it. -About everything else? I blatantly disagree with you, and will continue to edit as such until convinced otherwise. -As far as this article, we're good. -Zixor (talk) 02:06, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
What do you mean by "everything else"? Mr. Anon (talk) 04:18, May 17, 2010 (UTC)