Talk:Hero (SSBU)

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Isn’t he just called “Hero”?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but even though the splash said “The Hero”, the name below his portrait simply read “Hero” when it was showcasing his Mana system. Lou Cena (talk) 13:11, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Can confirm - rewatching the trailer (via Ninkendo's reaction), and it does, in fact, say "Hero". Aidan, the Rurouni 13:22, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
Thank you Aidan. Here’s the link; the exact time frame is at 2:20. Lou Cena (talk) 13:24, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Really?

I watch the trailer to get all the info out onto the page and you guys up and made a new, blank page without even keeping the bullet points? Are you actually kidding me right now? Enigma (talk) 14:24, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

It’s because we mistakenly called him “The Hero” when the “The” was just for the trailer. Just add the info in. It won’t hurt. Lou Cena (talk) 14:26, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
I can't. I didn't think to paste it on notepad because I assumed the page wouldn't be changed this dramatically. Now I have to go back and redo this from scratch. Enigma (talk) 14:28, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
Woah calm down. lost version here SerpentKing 14:30, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
Oh thank goodness. Thanks. That saves me a lot of trouble. Enigma (talk) 14:32, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

That's not the DQ logo for Smash, if you look on this page on the official site, its entirely different.

Either someone possibly assumed what the symbol was going to be, or using it as placeholder. Wolff (talk) 14:29, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
The symbol put in place is a placeholder - we previously used it for the Dragon Quest NIWA wiki. It will be uploaded over. Aidan, the Rurouni 14:36, June 11, 2019 (EDT)


Name is "Eleven", not Irebun

Irebun is an incorrect romanization of the word "eleven", which isn't actually his name in either case, but if it's going to be used better Eleven than Irebun (which as far as I can tell was just made up by someone who misread the kana and is not from an official source). 71.69.105.55Me

Hello there, this topic is currently being discussed here. Wolff (talk) 22:47, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

His name is Eleven it’s what’s used in the marketing. Irebun is from nowhere it’s a romanized Japanese pronunciation of Eleven Paulie25 (talk) 23:43, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

This topic is currently being discussed here. Wolff (talk) 23:51, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Is his name Eleven or Luminary?

I'm seeing a mix of both of those names on the articles. Which one is it? Cherrim98Cherrim Box Sprite.pngTalk 22:33, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Hello there, this topic is currently being discussed here. Wolff (talk) 22:47, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

His name is Eleven it’s what’s used in the marketing. Irebun is from nowhere it’s a romanized Japanese pronunciation of Eleve Paulie25 (talk) 23:43, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Luminary is a title that is given to him Paulie25 (talk) 23:44, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

This topic is currently being discussed here. Wolff (talk) 23:51, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

What's his stage called?

I noticed that there's no name for the Hero's stage. Being unfamiliar with Dragon Quest, I'm trying to figure this out. Does anyone know the name of his stage? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RyuHacco (talkcontribs) 08:52, June 12, 2019

We'll have to wait until Hero is fully released to know, unless of course Sakurai reveals it beforehand. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 09:03, June 12, 2019 (EDT)
Can't find an exact match, but Havens Above looks pretty similar. 181.165.132.68 12:56, June 12, 2019 (EDT)
According to this tweet, the stage is called "Altar of the Skies" (天空の祭壇). Is there a location in DQXI with a similar name?--190.166.144.194 13:25, June 12, 2019 (EDT)
Found it! Apparently it's called "Yggdrasil's Altar". Image 1 Image 2. The first map has those same kanji, while the second map is the first image, but in the English version. And for hard confirmation, here's a let's play of that part of the game! 181.165.132.68 14:42, June 12, 2019 (EDT)
Is it called that in Smash though? If not, then don't add it. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 15:05, June 12, 2019 (EDT)
I mean, if we're being technical, we don't have any confirmation that Spiral Mountain is gonna be called that in Smash either, but what else is it gonna be called? Is the need for confirmation for this one but not that one just because "Yggdrasil" is kind of a tough word? I'm actually curious to know. 181.165.132.68 13:03, June 13, 2019 (EDT)

Welp, Yggdrasil's Altar sounds funky. Again I have never played a Dragon Quest game so it just... sounds funky.

Should we use plural pronouns?

Since Hero is technically multiple people all using a generic title, should we use “they”, or should we use “he” since they’re all male anyways? Lou Cena (talk) 13:03, June 12, 2019 (EDT)

Even with characters that have different alts (regardless of it being character- or gender-changing), we default to the first - Olimar instead of Alph, Popo and Nana instead of the other way around, Bowser Jr. instead of any of the Koopalings, etc.. This is no different. Aidan, the Rurouni 14:54, June 12, 2019 (EDT)

If “Erdrick” refers to the title of the DQ3 hero and not his actual name, why don’t we call the DQ11 hero “Luminary?”

Um you got to give more specifics than the title. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 12:27, June 13, 2019 (EDT)

All of the protagonists are classified under the generic name “Hero,” and the Dragon Quest Wiki acknowledges the DQ11 Hero as the Luminary. Since there aren’t any other heroes in the DQ series going under the title of “Luminary,” we know for sure that the one and only thing that fulfills both requirements of a protagonist in the series and the distinct title of Luminary goes to the DQ11 protagonist. It also helps that the promotional material for the Switch version refers to the Hero as the Luminary. ——DatAlphaLion

"Presumably"

>It is unknown how damage will be affected, but it is presumably nullified as well. >It is presumably chargeable.

A lot of the information on this page seems very speculative. Should the page really have baseless presumptions with no basis? 65.128.165.216