Forum:What to do with pages about cloned and similar special moves

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Forums: Index Watercooler What to do with pages about cloned and similar special moves

This is motivated by the recent discussion about Electroshock/Upperdash Arm, Dancing Blade/Double-Edge Dance and Fox/Falco's Blasters. I feel there should be some kind or policy, or at least a discussion about what similar/cloned special moves should be separated, and what ones should be covered in a single shared page.

Essentially, what warrants a split and what warrants a merge? Is a shared name enough to have a single page despite major differences (Pk Fire/Thunder, Blaster...)? Is a different name enough to separate very similar moves (Dr. Tornado/Luigi Cyclone, Dancing Blade/Double-Edge Dance)? What about partially cloned moves with different names (Electroshock/Upperdash Arm, Palutena/Silver Bow...)?

I feel consistency should be a key point in every area of the wiki, so ideally the outcome of this discussion should be applied to every relevant case.

Discuss. -Menshay (talk) 09:27, 13 April 2016 (EDT)


I'm going to propose something and I want to hear what you guys think about it. It's not perfect, but I think it may work.

Clone moves should be partitioned into different pages if the differing moves fit 2 of the 3 following criteria:

  1. Different English name. Self-explanatory, as this is an English Smashwiki. Moves owned by the same character with new changes in different installments are excepted.
  2. Differing animation essence. Does the move's visual differentiation go beyond colors/models and significantly departures from the original moves' animations?
  3. Differing property essence. Does it go beyond damage/knockback/height/distance/range differences, and if not, are they significantly differentiated enough in essence? Are there are new properties such as spiking potential, attack effects, multi-hits, etc?

MuteSpittah (talk) 12:14, 13 April 2016 (EDT)

I'd be fine with that. A different English name should already give itself its own page in my opinion, and the other two have already proven to make several other pages separate. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 12:24, 13 April 2016 (EDT)