Talk:Stomp (archetype)
Keep- the stomp is a famous move for Ganondorf, as is The Knee for Captain Falcon. It is also a very important aspect of Ganondorf's metagame, as OT and countless Brawlers have shown me.--
MegaTron1XD
17:25, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
Delete. Whereas The Knee is a much loved, and much used, aspect of Captain Falcon's game, "Stomp" seems to be a generic term used to arbitrarily group a load of down aerials that look sort of the same. Even if the article were to be rewritten to be just about Ganondorf's down aerial, which some people seem to think is what the article is currently about, I would still say delete, because it's simply nowhere near being significant enough to merit its own article. It's just a fairly meh rip of The Knee, but with such ridiculous startup lag that it can't be combo'd into outside of teams, and as Ganondorf isn't actually used in tournaments it's not even used in competitive Smash. PenguinofDeath 21:30, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Actually PoD, it is a big part of Ganondorf's metagame in both Melee and Brawl. It's start-up is certainly not ridiculous to be unusable outside of edgegaurding. Also, with L-Cancelling in Melee and it being able to be auto-cancelled in Brawl, it is most certainly capable of being used in combos at low percentages. Similar to the knee, it is a sub 100% killer in both Melee and Brawl on grounded opponents, and it's capable of KOing recovering opponents at 0%. While it is safe to say Ganondorf isn't really used in Brawl tournaments, he was a much better and viable character in Melee who did saw use in tournaments, hence why he has always been middle tier or even high tier in Melee. Needless to say, it was the most notable attack in Ganondorf's standard moveset. While I'm still unsure as to whether this deserves an article or not, please don't use false facts in your support for deletion. Omega Tyrant
21:52, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
Delete - Per Oswald Cobblepot PenguinofDeath. BNK [E|T|C] 21:43, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
Delete - Seriously? Pages like this are still around the Wiki? Zmario 17:30, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
Exactly why do you guys think the Knee is more notable than this? Several characters use it and it's a good part of their metagames. If you can't see that by now, then you must not Brawl so much.--MegaTron1XD 17:43, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
- I'm so glad you AREN'T a sysop. I would laugh you out the front door. Zmario 17:44, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
- You are not supposed to treat sysops differently. You are older, but not as experienced as me. I have played Brawl for several hours and many Smashers use this as a part of their metagame. If this isn't notable, then the Knee ain't, because besides being popular, like the Ganon Stomp, it's basically treated like this.--
MegaTron1XD 17:46, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
- You are not supposed to treat sysops differently. You are older, but not as experienced as me. I have played Brawl for several hours and many Smashers use this as a part of their metagame. If this isn't notable, then the Knee ain't, because besides being popular, like the Ganon Stomp, it's basically treated like this.--
Keep: What OmegaTyrant and Mega Said. Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 22:23, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
Of course we shouldn't have articles on generic animations! Oh yeah... And unlike that, Stomps actually have usefulness. If Ness' stomp had not been buffed in Brawl, he would still be in the bottom tier. Ganon's stomp having more lag is the reason why he's now the lowest. Perhaps the reason why some people believe the knee is more useful than this is because the Knee has an official name, but that doesn't mean that this article shouldn't exist. Mr. Anon teh awsome 01:01, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
