Talk:Dark Samus (SSBU)

Unlockability status

Do we know for sure that Dark Samus will be unlocked separately? Samus will of course be a starter character, but we don’t know for sure whether Echo characters will be unlocked alongside the originals. I asked the same question in the Discord chat, and there was also some debate there. So is there enough uncertainty that we should list Dark Samus’s status as unknown, or can we safely say she’s unlockable? Nyargleblargle (Contribs) 13:20, 8 August 2018 (EDT)

Urk I dunno. I mean, Sakurai is treating the Echoes as fully unique characters in most aspects (separate pages on the site, counted separately in the total fighter count, etc.) and Dark Samus is clearly not one of the Original Twelve. But they also (can) share a roster spot. So... I guess unknown. TheNuttyOne 13:22, 8 August 2018 (EDT)

Bump as a busy day winds down. Nyargleblargle (Contribs) 16:18, 8 August 2018 (EDT)

If she ain't the original 8; I'd say unlockable. Unowninator (talk) 16:23, 8 August 2018 (EDT)

It, or She.

The Smash Bros. website is listing Dark Samus as 'it'. Perhaps we should edit the page to reflect that. Blackbrass (talk) 07:18, 17 August 2018 (EDT)

I'd say leave it at she. I'll go check MetroidWiki just to be sure though.72.133.91.93 08:47, 17 August 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

Just checked M Wiki, she's officially female. Also, someone ought to go put some Ultimate stuff on that wiki, most of the related pages I've been to (ZSS, Dark Samus, Ridley, etc.) have not acknowledged it at all.72.133.91.93 08:50, 17 August 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

For clarity for anyone who's interested, all English scan data relating to Dark Samus in Metroid Prime 2 and 3, and supplementary materials for those games, and Dark Samus's previous Smash trophies, use she/her pronouns for the character. Although the website and Twitter post use it pronouns this once, it seems like even NoA's promotional materials for SSBU aren't sticking to that - the official Tumblr post, for example, avoids pronouns entirely. I suspect the usage of "it" is a simple error. Miles (talk) 14:45, 17 August 2018 (EDT)

As I said on Talk:Dark Samus, I believe we should wait until Ultimate is released before we declare its stance on Dark Samus's gender. After all, this blog post might not reflect the final game. --PeabodySam (talk) 00:05, 19 August 2018 (EDT)