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Removal of certain rumors

I've had this discussion on the Discord server and several people seemed to agree, but it'd of course be wrong to not bring it up here. So here are the rumors I think we should remove and the reasons why:

Brawl

Rumor	Reason
Radio interview rumor	Looking back at it (and I could be wrong), this rumor didn't seem that widespread to begin with and the idea of Sakurai releasing info in a radio interview doesn't seem very plausible.
Brawl is the last game rumor	Pretty sure we have confirmation from Sakurai that every Smash game is developed as if it was the last one. It seems to just be game development philosophy that they practice.

Smash 4

Rumor	Reason
Lucina hoax	Not very widespread outside of AllisBrawl. Not that I'm discounting the popularity of AiB, but I don't think we should keep localized rumors here.

Ultimate

Rumor	Reason
Richter/Gardevoir/Gothitelle leak	Again, not too widespread outside of maybe GameFAQs. There is one video that received around 40k views, but these are a dime a dozen with literally any leak and the thirsty and oblivious portion of the Smash community.
LaPailleDor Leaks	Relatively obscure leak outside of Smashboards. Was disproven a little bit less than a month later.
Nintenderos Placeholder Rumor	Also relatively obscure leak. Also simply theory crafting about a strange occurrence on the website. The Kirby and Kid Icarus instances also contradicted the main theory anyways.
Nintendo Event at Arcade MTL	Same situation as Nintenderos. People assumed that a big reveal (or watch party) would occur at a random arcade in Montreal. There was no basis to this rumor other than wishful thinking.

So yeah, I'd appreciate hearing some thoughts and opinions on this. Pokebub (talk) 20:44, 4 January 2019 (EST)

I definitely support this. The page is very cluttered and in desperate need of some trimming, so this would be a very good move. Kbimbatti22 (talk) 00:44, 5 January 2019 (EST)

I wouldn't be against the removal of some of the less well-known ones. Some of them (especially some of the ones for Ultimate) were kinda dumb anyway. CardboardLuigi (talk) 08:15, 5 January 2019 (EST)

I'm in support of removing several of these leaks, however, did the IP Address user had the right to remove the sections per consensus tho when only 3 users are for removal? Just wondering, because I kinda thought it required more votes for them to be removed. -- Pancham (talk • contributions) 16:04, 5 January 2019 (EST)

I also support the removal of the rumors listed above, as some of them I never heard before and I doubt are really well-known outside of one website. But seeing how the IP already removed them, I guess this is pointless unless it gets undone. WolfBloodSpam (talk) 17:19, 5 January 2019 (EST)

I support removing only the ones from Ultimate, seeing as the Lucina rumor helped set the standard for comparing if it was actually a real update or not, similar to the Palutena hoax, and the Brawl rumors were actually a bit well-known at the time. --Tailikku (talk) 09:07, 6 February 2019 (EST)

Well, it's a bit late for that. From what I searched, I couldn't really find much info about them. I of course am not the only person with say on this, but if you can find results where a lot of people were discussing/debating the rumor then post it and more people might be inclined to consider adding them back. Pokebub (talk) 18:05, 6 February 2019 (EST)

Brave Instagram Post

There's a small edit war going on with this piece of trivia:
"On February 4th, 2019, Super Smash Bros. supervisor and HAL Laboratory employee Shinya Kumazaki made a post on Instagram showcasing a number of photos of Kirby next to Erdrick's shield from the Dragon Quest series. The post reads: "The brave's shield. そして伝説がはじまった！ (And thus, the legend started!)" This has lead many fans to speculate that Kumazaki is referring to the DLC character datamine that uncovered the codename "Brave" hidden away in its data, as Erdrick's Hero class, or "Yuusha," can also be translated as "Brave.""
I'm not sure whether this should really stay, because while other articles have talked about this, it's a big stretch and somewhat ambiguous. SugarCookie420 (talk) 20:30, 5 February 2019 (EST)

More people in the edit history were in support of keeping the trivia than removing it. Considering gaming websites were discussing it openly, it was worth keeping as a rumor. It's no more of a stretch than some of the other 'leaks' on the page. Funny that this was removed for not being an 'official reveal', but the Sora one was fine. Seems a bit of a double standard here. IPDude (talk) 22:05, 6 February 2019.

? Crocodile Dippy 2 (talk) 10:44, 6 February 2019 (EST)

They derived the reasoning for removing that rumor from one of my edits without knowing the context of why I said it to begin with- someone tried using that to definitively conclude who "Brave" was on the Datamine entry. I thought it was sound at the time, but if I knew people were going to be using that reasoning in edit wars, I would've never said it to begin with.
Plus as Miles From SmashWiki put it, Kumazaki-san's role as an original game supervisor is to make sure the Kirby content is represented correctly, and is otherwise not involved with the development of the game. CardboardLuigi (talk) 11:27, 6 February 2019 (EST)

The Sora one wasn't an official reveal, but it was made to seem like it was; people didn't know what Hashimoto meant when he said "yes" (did he mean "yes, he's in!" or "yes, we want him in!"?), so speculation arose.

In regards to this, we have a supervisor from the original Smash 64 team posting an image of Kirby and the shield from Dragon Quest, for seemingly no reason; in tandem with the caption and the recent datamine (that was patched out in 2.0.0), people are speculating as to whether or not Erdrick is actually in the game now. Both of these are rumors that should go on this page until confirmation (in which case they'd be moved to here). Aidan, the Rurouni 15:22, 6 February 2019 (EST)

Vergeben Updates

Since the page can't currently be accessed without admin approval, thought it would be worth adding to the Vergeben section that Vergeben has now doubled down on Erdrick. IPDude (talk) 21:21, 6 February 2019 (EST)