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I do not see how this tier list is legitimate; it says "community-voted" right in the title of the SmashBoards thread, there have been no official news posts on the subject, and the head of the project does not seem to be anybody particularly important. Please provide proof of its legitimacy or it gets deleted. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Bold 11:23, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
I do not see how this tier list is legitimate; it says "community-voted" right in the title of the SmashBoards thread, there have been no official news posts on the subject, and the head of the project does not seem to be anybody particularly important. Please provide proof of its legitimacy or it gets deleted. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Bold 11:23, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
:I second. It's unofficial and seems very biased. Dark Pit and Pit have very few differences, and yet they're multiple tiers apart. [[Special:Contributions/216.130.144.24|216.130.144.24]] 11:27, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
:I second. It's unofficial and seems very biased. Dark Pit and Pit have very few differences, and yet they're multiple tiers apart. [[Special:Contributions/216.130.144.24|216.130.144.24]] 11:27, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
:I recall the Project M Tier List made by CLASH Tournaments, however that was voted by top players. Question, is there a Smash 4 Back Room? [[User:Falcon-X|Falcon-X]] ([[User talk:Falcon-X|talk]]) 11:42, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
 
:I recall the Project M Tier List made by CLASH Tournaments, however that was voted by top players. Question, is there a Smash 4 Back Room? If not, delete it. [[User:Falcon-X|Falcon-X]] ([[User talk:Falcon-X|talk]]) 11:42, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
 
:As cool as it is, I agree that this list should probably be removed. All the other tier lists we have on the wiki were voted on by professionals or Back Roomers. Someone here could have voted for Luigi just because they like him or something. Also, the opinions of casual players could have influenced it, like people who think that Pit is good simply because of his Side-B. We'll just have to wait for an official Tier List. It probably won't be for a couple of months though. [[User:John3637881|John]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 11:49, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
 
The PM team explicitly stomped on CLASH's tier list, so determining its legitimacy was pretty easy for us.
 
I'm 99% sure there is a back room for SSB4, and that we should wait for their say-so on what to claim is a tier list. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Producer 11:49, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
:Yep, this is a no-go until we hear from a SSB4 back room. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:50, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
::Actually, I don't think there is one. [[Special:Contributions/72.15.80.185|72.15.80.185]] 18:08, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
:::Not yet man. Not yet. Plus we still have Mewtwo to deal with as well. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The G-Man 19:32, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
 
This tier list is illegitimate. For starters, I'm pretty sure the Miis will NOT be included in any official list, since they're so customizable they can't be constant... not to mention that I find it highly offensive that the Gunner and Swordfighter are at the absolute bottom, and the Miis' tier placement in general will be negatively bias since nearly everyone ignores them (all the more reason they'll be left out of the list).
 
Also, I've heard nothing from the ''Smash 4'' Backroom about an official tier list yet, and what they say is final. Let's just be patient and wait the real one, alright? The game is still young.
[[User:Herson|Herson]] ([[User talk:Herson|talk]]) 23:25, 6 April 2015 (EDT)Herson
 
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'small font' is not real reason to revert the changes. "Unreleased" can cause confusion to the people thinking they're never released unless they've noticed that this tier list is for 1.1.3 (as noted in the table heading). [[Special:Contributions/50.161.55.59|50.161.55.59]] 22:28, 17 July 2016 (EDT)
:That's exactly another reason why it's pointless. If it's already mentioned at the top in a bigger font clear as day, what's the point of the change? [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 22:33, 17 July 2016 (EDT)
:Not every people will notice that. But that's not it, there can be different context behind "unreleased". [[Special:Contributions/50.161.55.59|50.161.55.59]] 00:32, 18 July 2016 (EDT)

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Legitimacy[edit]

I do not see how this tier list is legitimate; it says "community-voted" right in the title of the SmashBoards thread, there have been no official news posts on the subject, and the head of the project does not seem to be anybody particularly important. Please provide proof of its legitimacy or it gets deleted. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Bold 11:23, 26 March 2015 (EDT)

I second. It's unofficial and seems very biased. Dark Pit and Pit have very few differences, and yet they're multiple tiers apart. 216.130.144.24 11:27, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
I recall the Project M Tier List made by CLASH Tournaments, however that was voted by top players. Question, is there a Smash 4 Back Room? If not, delete it. Falcon-X (talk) 11:42, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
As cool as it is, I agree that this list should probably be removed. All the other tier lists we have on the wiki were voted on by professionals or Back Roomers. Someone here could have voted for Luigi just because they like him or something. Also, the opinions of casual players could have influenced it, like people who think that Pit is good simply because of his Side-B. We'll just have to wait for an official Tier List. It probably won't be for a couple of months though. John (talk) 11:49, 26 March 2015 (EDT)

The PM team explicitly stomped on CLASH's tier list, so determining its legitimacy was pretty easy for us.

I'm 99% sure there is a back room for SSB4, and that we should wait for their say-so on what to claim is a tier list. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Producer 11:49, 26 March 2015 (EDT)

Yep, this is a no-go until we hear from a SSB4 back room. Miles (talk) 16:50, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
Actually, I don't think there is one. 72.15.80.185 18:08, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
Not yet man. Not yet. Plus we still have Mewtwo to deal with as well. Dots (talk) Mega Man X SNES sprite.png The G-Man 19:32, 26 March 2015 (EDT)

This tier list is illegitimate. For starters, I'm pretty sure the Miis will NOT be included in any official list, since they're so customizable they can't be constant... not to mention that I find it highly offensive that the Gunner and Swordfighter are at the absolute bottom, and the Miis' tier placement in general will be negatively bias since nearly everyone ignores them (all the more reason they'll be left out of the list).

Also, I've heard nothing from the Smash 4 Backroom about an official tier list yet, and what they say is final. Let's just be patient and wait the real one, alright? The game is still young. Herson (talk) 23:25, 6 April 2015 (EDT)Herson

In response to edit summary[edit]

'small font' is not real reason to revert the changes. "Unreleased" can cause confusion to the people thinking they're never released unless they've noticed that this tier list is for 1.1.3 (as noted in the table heading). 50.161.55.59 22:28, 17 July 2016 (EDT)

That's exactly another reason why it's pointless. If it's already mentioned at the top in a bigger font clear as day, what's the point of the change? Disaster Flare Disaster Flare signature image.png (talk) 22:33, 17 July 2016 (EDT)
Not every people will notice that. But that's not it, there can be different context behind "unreleased". 50.161.55.59 00:32, 18 July 2016 (EDT)