User talk:Smashedpotatoes/Archive 2

Something to keep in mind

If I add a sub-bullet (such as the one on the Mario Maker page), it's probably there for a reason. The general rule I have is that, if it goes with one trivia point, but it doesn't fit well with the actual trivia point itself, then it's a sub-bullet. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 12:16, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

I get what you're getting at. However, it's not really proper to have just one sub-bullet point. The point of bullet points are to list things. Multiple things, not just one thing. There's also the argument that that trivia point in that sub-bullet point isn't interesting either. People can look at the side menu and see the tracks, and see the new songs at the top of the list that clearly pertain to the stage itself (Style Switch and Mario Maker theme). It's not interesting to point out that kind of stuff that is already there and that they can easily discover on their own if they are so curious. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 12:31, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

The new songs aren't restricted to the top of the list, however. Therefore, a trivia point is in order; namely, one to explain that not all tracks on the stage are new. Granted, A. most of the people on this wiki will already know this (trivia is most of the time directed to people who happen to be reading the wiki and have no part in adding info), and B. people can find out which tracks are new by downloading the stage themselves, but it's still worth having as a trivia point. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 12:37, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

And I'd argue it's not worth having as a trivia point (with reasons stated prior), in which case you're not going to budge in thinking it's a trivia point worth having (with an insufficient explanation why), in which case I will be wanting a more sufficient explanation from you as to why you think it is worth having. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 12:48, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

How is it insufficient when I didn't even give an explanation prior to this debate? My reasoning is it stands out from the other two stages with this distinction; Big Battlefield has all the tracks from Battlefield, and Pirate Ship uses tracks from Skyloft, Temple, and Hyrule Castle. Mario Maker, on the other hand, takes songs from other stages, as well as adding new songs to it. Therefore, "of those three stages, it is the only one to receive new tracks as well as shared music." Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 13:14, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

Sorry, I thought you attempting to explain with your prior post. My bad. I get your explanation but the trivia point is plain redundant, so nothing's lost omitting it. Not really willing to press the issue any further, so whatever, at this point, I don't have much of a care anymore if the point is kept or not. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 16:54, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

It's just that uninteresting trivia such as that is redundant, boring, and needless. The other ones on that page are just fine... Smashedpotatoes (talk) 16:57, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

Scratch what I said earlier about not caring. You elaborated on the trivia point, but you didn't say why it was worth keeping. As the writer of that point, the burden is on you to explain why it should be kept. Do you really think that's interesting? It's just a fact about the stage, but not all facts are interesting as trivia. If you can provide a good explanation as to why you think it's worth keeping, then maybe I'll change my mind. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 17:07, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

If you have a response, I'd like to hear it. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 19:18, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

SW:TRIVIA states the following:

“	Trivia sections are to be used for miscellaneous facts that don't fit in anywhere else in a mainspace article, but are still sufficiently noteworthy to merit mention.	”
—SW:TRIVIA

All the trivia I've added is basically miscellaneous facts that I find cool about it. Some things I find are not interesting, so therefore I do not add them. I add the ones I think are important, and that other people would be intrigued by. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 09:11, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

I hardly think that point is important. I don't think people think that point is important either, or are intrigued by it. Must we talk this to the SMM talk page? Smashedpotatoes (talk) 14:44, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

No, no, SMM page isn't necessary as of now. And also note how you are not the only person here; your opinion is taken into consideration, believe me, but, like the rest of the wiki here, majority rules. If I've put up something, and you're the only one that has a problem with it, then I don't really know what to say. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 14:47, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

Well I do. That's why I want to take it to the talk page, to get other people's input. Lol. Because you and I, we're stubborn as hell, and we butt heads, so getting outside input would be great. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 14:49, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

1 vs 1 is hardly majority rules. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 14:59, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

I'm referring to the fact that no one else has a problem with it. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 15:05, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

That's an assumption though. It's not like people don't ignore problems. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 15:11, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

See that's why it should be brought up on the talk page, so that other people can give input. Cuz you obviously won't budge, and I won't either, and we've given reasons and gotten nowhere. We've done it before Smashedpotatoes (talk) 15:14, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

If you don't bring it to the talk page I eventually will Smashedpotatoes (talk) 15:15, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

You can if you want. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 15:24, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

Refer to the previous section for my input. Serpent∞King (talk) 20:11, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

Mind your own business, and get off my damn case Serpent Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:04, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

Anyways, I'm not sure if I'm willing to go at it. We're in another classic situation where we both think we're right and unwilling to budge. We're both willing and able to argue, and have done so in the past, but not sure if I have the will to do so this time, unfortunately. I may let this one slide for the time being Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:13, 3 October 2015 (EDT)\

"See that's why it should be brought up on the talk page, so that other people can give input." Damn. Serpent∞King (talk) 00:17, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

If you're gonna accuse me of being arrogance but let a guy slide who quickly undos edits and states "No my edit is better" and has clearly not budged when he was wrong at some points, I don't really know what to say bud. It'd be fair and logical, in your perspective, to accuse us both but you don't seem to work that way. Make like a snake and slither out of arguments that don't call for your input. This isn't about me or him, it's about the trivia point, and your input fails in that regard. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:19, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

I have put up with this as long as I am going to. This is a talk page, in otherwords, public. You cannot simply deny my input. Now, Aidan has given you reasons for his edit (far more legit than yours, I might add), so your statement here is null and void, sorry. Look, I am just trying to keep piece here. My line of thinking is this: Aidan rarely gets into major conflicts with anyone, nor do I. I am just using a process of elimination. And observation. Serpent∞King (talk) 00:24, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

I'm not denying your input. It's just that this was between me and Aidan and your input added nothing but more conflict unfortunately. Give me a good basis of what you mean by "legit" and I'll be willing to listen. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:27, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

Things were actually going fine until you came in with that useless comment...Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:31, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

"The new songs aren't restricted to the top of the list, however. Therefore, a trivia point is in order; namely, one to explain that not all tracks on the stage are new. Granted, A. most of the people on this wiki will already know this (trivia is most of the time directed to people who happen to be reading the wiki and have no part in adding info), and B. people can find out which tracks are new by downloading the stage themselves, but it's still worth having as a trivia point."

He clearly addresses your point and provides legit counter arguments Serpent∞King (talk) 00:32, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

He explains the trivia point, but doesn't give a reason why it's "worth having." Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:41, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

Alright, look. If any of you wants to bring it to the talk page, bring it to the talk page. If not, then get over it. It's a stupid trivia point for crying out loud. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 00:43, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

I was actually willing to let it go until Serpent butted in spewing his venomous comment, which got me riled up. I didn't state it here so that's my bad. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:45, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

What venomous comment? I meant no offense until you started violating NPA Serpent∞King (talk) 00:47, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

Then again, what a situation. Two parties thinking they're right and a third also thinking he's right and trying to be a mediator but is actually making things worse. Hell, this is going nowhere, so might as well throw it onto the talk page. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:47, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

Actually no. Just forget about this, I'm not willing, it's not worth it, I'll get over this. One trivia point has led this dispute. So not worth it. F it, I'm dipping. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 00:50, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

It's almost humorous how my arguments on trivia points reels you two in and gets us all going to the point of us looking like pedantic fools. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 03:25, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

My pardons, but I thought this discussion was over. "It's not worth it" after all. Serpent∞King (talk) 03:37, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

It is over, do you have a problem with me commenting on it? Smashedpotatoes (talk) 03:38, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

Well typically when a discussion is over...it's over. Serpent∞King (talk) 03:39, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

Once again, get off my case. It's almost like you enjoy this. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 03:40, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

Or maybe I am just really ticked off about all of this fighting. It's a constant thing, and it's irritating. Serpent∞King (talk) 03:42, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

It is irritating. At the same time, you chose to jump into this discussion, for one, which at the time, even though you had the right and ability to do so, it wasn't really your business. You've also shown that you are willing to argue about things you don't even care about. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 03:46, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

I will jump into a conversation in an attempt to mediate if I feel things could go off rails. I try to be a peace keeper. You are correct, this extends to subjects that I do not have a specific opinion on. Serpent∞King (talk) 03:48, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

Well then you felt incorrectly then, because this was going just fine, it was just long like always. Perhaps I didn't make it clear in time. Also, I didn't say your attempts at peacekeeping extended to things you do not care about (though that's true) but your arguing can extend to things you don't care about. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 03:51, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

I mean, it's good to mediate things, no matter your personal stance on the given matter. But sometimes a mediator isn't needed, like here. That aside, and I'm not talking about this specific instance anymore, but it's best to take sides in an argument that you actually care about. Especially on this wiki. Otherwise you're just wasting your time and energy. All the arguments/debates/discussions I've had have all regarded things I care about. Sometimes I may end up letting them go like I was about to do here, but I always debated because I had some concern over an issue. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 04:09, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

I mean, this extends even moreso in much more important things in life: You take a side for what you believe in, for what you care for. Not things you don't. Like I don't care to take sides on whatever celebrity scandals are going on, it doesn't concern me and I have no desire to keep up and be in the know with them. Waste of time for me Smashedpotatoes (talk) 04:18, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

But I digress, it is late at night and I may regret saying some things in the morning. I'm done commenting on this Smashedpotatoes (talk) 04:20, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

Uh....that tag summary for Palutena

Can you please cut down on it? First off, its 3corny5me. Second, it's noticeably long and only two of the almost 10 sentences are relevant in any way. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 20:11, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

Edit: Forget this ever existed. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 20:12, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

I intended it to be 3corny5me given the ridiculous length of the section. Nevertheless, 'twas indeed long. Like the Attributes section. Lol Smashedpotatoes (talk) 14:47, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

Boxing Ring

Ok, let's break it down.

1. Yes, it's a guess, but it's a legitimate guess.
2. I know for a fact that stages have been shown without music because there's already music playing in the background. Take the Smash 4 Direct as an example.
3. Continuing that last point, it is the only stage shown off in the Developer Direct that didn't have music playing.

What I've noticed a lot is you are the only one who removes the stuff I add, and has a problem with it. No one, not even this guy, has a problem with it. It's always you. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 09:58, 8 October 2015 (EDT)

1. Still speculation.
2. Not entirely true because...
3. Battlefield's music wasn't playing

I omit things I see unfitting/unnecessary/unneeded, and a lot of trivia you put in fits the bill. That's not to say that I'm picking on every thing you do, it's just that much of the things you put here are problematic or unnecessary, and I see them on Recent changes, and make edits accordingly.

Smashedpotatoes (talk) 17:26, 8 October 2015 (EDT)

No, speculation would be saying something like "Because music from The Wonderful 101 appears in Smash Bros., and because there's trophies of each Wonderful One, it's possible that Nintendo will release Wonder-Red as a playable character in Smash." And also, I'm referring to the little bits where there were 4 players on a stage at the very end of the thing, not Sakurai showing off gameplay. Finally, if a lot of the stuff I put is, to you, unnecessary, then perhaps you should read SW:TRIVIA. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 18:22, 8 October 2015 (EDT)

I've read it many times. You're speculating the reasoning behind it. It's speculative and uninteresting, but I'm guessing in response you'll again say that it's not speculative and in fact interesting, which means that we'll be getting nowhere. I'm not willing to debate much further about this. If you're going to be stubborn, if you're willing to hold onto this, and you're going to make this that important to you, then instead of debating this I'll just throw it on the talk page. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 19:22, 8 October 2015 (EDT)

Why leave?

Why leave SmashWiki? If you stay, you can help us out, Combat the vandals, and generally improve the wiki! Just saying. INoMed (Talk) 08:46, 9 October 2015 (EDT)

He didn't say that. If you look at the edit, he was removing stuff on his userpage. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 08:50, 9 October 2015 (EDT)

I've done those things and many things I've wanted to be seen done. As of recent I just don't have much time, energy, or will for things such as this anymore. Maybe I'll come back sometimes in the far future, but SW cannot have a place in my life right now. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 08:52, 9 October 2015 (EDT)

I better hope you'll come back in 2016 or earlier... Because in my mind, "Far future" means "in the 2020's/2030's". Anyways... A LOT of users will miss you. :-(............................................ INoMed (Talk) 08:56, 9 October 2015 (EDT)

I don't think I'd be doing this during those years, so expect "far future" to be before then or nil. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 09:05, 9 October 2015 (EDT)

Oh. (i won't disturb you anymore... Bye bye.) INoMed (Talk) 09:13, 9 October 2015 (EDT)

You weren't disturbing me. I'll see you later though man. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 09:14, 9 October 2015 (EDT)

Welcome back!

Welcome back, dude! HawkSoulBacon, your one true love :) (talk) 18:09, 21 November 2015 (EST)

Thanks, man! Glad to be back. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 18:13, 21 November 2015 (EST)

Aidan's talk page

The main reason I did that was because a little bit ago, NuttyKid reverted a typo fix that I did to a comment I made.Sorry for doing that.98.157.202.185 16:49, 24 November 2015 (EST)

Oh ok, I get you. That's weird. Don't worry about it. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 16:50, 24 November 2015 (EST)

Welcome back.

Welcome back to the SmashWiki. We appreciate your return. INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 15:24, 27 November 2015 (EST)

Thanks, man. I won't be as active as I was before, though, but I'll still be contributing here and there. Smashedpotatoes (talk) 15:40, 27 November 2015 (EST)

Userpage

I would appreciate it if you could omit the more...controversial parts of it. Personally, I am not offended by it, but I can see how it could offend others. Serpent King 02:01, 28 November 2015 (EST)

Which part? Smashedpotatoes (Talk) 02:02, 28 November 2015 (EST)

Well "And now, angry ticks fire out of my nipples." and "These hoes chase bread, aw damn, she got a bird brain." come to mind :P. Are they quotes from something? Serpent King 02:05, 28 November 2015 (EST)

For your viewing pleasure, or possible displeasure: Rejected. The latter one is lyrics from a...certain song by Big Sean. Smashedpotatoes (Talk) 02:16, 28 November 2015 (EST)

Yeah, that's not really a good lyric to put on my page haha. Smashedpotatoes (Talk) 02:43, 28 November 2015 (EST)

Much better thank you. Serpent King 02:45, 28 November 2015 (EST)

Cool. Did you like the video? Smashedpotatoes (Talk) 02:46, 28 November 2015 (EST)

Yeah. Always funny to see what gets shot down by public TV Serpent King 02:53, 28 November 2015 (EST)

Except the Family Learning Channel isn't real haha. Smashedpotatoes (Talk) 02:55, 28 November 2015 (EST)

Yeah I want to thank you as well. Never have a quote from Big Sean on a userpage. Ganonmew, The Festive Evil Clone 08:26, 28 November 2015 (EST)

No problemo. And don't worry, my page will stay posi. Smashedpotatoes (Talk) 12:50, 28 November 2015 (EST)

Indentation

When responding to comments with an indentation, can you be sure to add an extra colon instead of using the same amount as the previous comment? Like this:

Hello!

Why, hello!

Instead of this:

Hello!

Why, hello!

It makes it easier to differentiate between comments. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 20:24, 13 December 2015 (EST)

Yeah Smashedpotatoes (Talk) 20:30, 13 December 2015 (EST)

Thanks! ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 21:14, 13 December 2015 (EST)

Just curious

Was this you? Aidan, the Jolly Space Warrior 07:45, 16 December 2015 (EST)

Of course! :) Smashedpotatoes (Talk) 20:40, 21 December 2015 (EST)