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Reminder: When adding players to the notable players section of the character pages, please also add a brief description regarding the player's accomplishments with the character, or their contributions to the character's metagame.

Penro ...that's all. 17:44, 22 February 2016 (EST)

I admit that. Jeez, I'm scared.. :P CSR (talk) 17:46, 22 February 2016 (EST)

Why? There's no reason to be scared. I was simply reminding you about that. XD. Penro ...that's all. 17:48, 22 February 2016 (EST)

Pardon me, that's my common response when I get reminder in any wiki.. CSR (talk) 17:56, 22 February 2016 (EST)

Shuton

My edits were not made simply due to recency bias, if that's what you're insinuating. There were three reasons combined as to why I believe Shuton should be listed as the best Olimar.

1. He's outplaced Dabuz at 2 of the 3 tournaments that they were both at (Frostbite and Prime Saga for Shuton/GENESIS for Dabuz). Technically, Myran did outplace Shuton at 2/3 of those tournaments himself, but Shuton made Top 8 at 2 of them and Myran's lowest placing (17th) is lower than Shuton's (13th).

2. He's actually more consistent than both Dabuz and Myran. Shuton's two lowest placings in Ultimate are 4th and 13th in comparison to Dabuz/Myran's two lowest of 9th and 17th. This also means that Shuton has only missed out on Top 8 once.

3. He won Prime Saga, making him the only one between him/Dabuz/Myran to have a major win in Ultimate.

This isn't quite the same situation as in Smash 4 where Kirihara won a major before Dabuz did, despite Dabuz being solidly more consistent than him otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk • contribs) {{{2}}}

I see. My apologies on undoing your edits; I thought that you prefer to claim some Japanese player the best player of some characters in the world. But what I've also meant is that we should watch for some more tournaments to determine who is the best Olimar player in the world. (such as CEO and EVO) I also thought that best players will show up after these two big tournaments. In other words, Prime Saga, despite being a big tournament in itself, may not be enough to determine who is the best player of said characters (in this case, Olimar). CSR (talk) 15:36, April 15, 2019 (EDT)

Quick thing on characters

Characters used for one tournament shouldn't be added to the infobox immediately. In the case of Bloom4Eva, not only has he rarely pulled out Corrin in past tournaments, but the Grand Finals match was basically a sandbag match, and we don't consider sandbag characters. CookiesCreme 18:20, April 11, 2021 (EDT)

My apologies. I thought a character can be added in a Smasher article should that Smasher wins the match with that character. CSR (talk) 21:55, April 12, 2021 (EDT)

"Best in the world"

Should quickly mention this, try avoid using a definitive "best in the world" unless it's very obvious there isn't anyone else who's just as good (eg MkLeo Byleth/Joker). CookiesCreme 00:40, November 1, 2021 (EDT)

Are you talking about "The Best Ultimate player in the world" I wrote on the note of MkLeo section? I'll fix that then. CSR (talk) 00:51, November 1, 2021 (EDT)

I meant best in the world for characters. For example, I feel like saying Repo is the definitive "best in the world" is a bit too early judging by how his results don't immediately outshine Mega Man results from the past, plus the existence of players like ScAtt. CookiesCreme 01:07, November 1, 2021 (EDT)

Just realized I mixed up your edit with someone else's. Sorry about that! CookiesCreme 01:10, November 1, 2021 (EDT)

Sorry about that, CSR. Cookies was actually referring to my edit (we agreed to say "current best Mega Man in Japan and one of the best in the world). PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 01:21, November 1, 2021 (EDT)

Oh, I see. It's OK, though. Sometimes people can confuse and leave message on wrong person's user talk. Even I let that happen too. CSR (talk) 01:25, November 1, 2021 (EDT)

BarnardLoop's posts

It should be noted that BarnardLoop's lists are not strictly a list of the best players in the world for each character. For example, Cosmos is technically leading on points for Pyra/Mythra, but that's simply because he had a head start and attended more events early, thus acculumating more points. BL himself has stated that Sparg0 is the best Pyra/Mythra player and the clear frontrunner for 2nd-best player in North America (and probably the world). PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 07:29, November 26, 2021 (EST)

I was aware of the fact that BL's post is not an indicator for the best player. Even so, it's clear that Sisqui is the best Dark Samus in the world right now; I just wanted to note that. CSR (talk) 17:59, November 26, 2021 (EST)

Also I don't believe Shuton should be listed as definitive, he is moreso equal with Dabuz. NPM Morr!? 06:24, November 27, 2021 (EST)

acola

Yes, I think it's safe to say that acola is the best Steve. He's entered 8 offline tournaments, made it to Grand Finals at every single one, and still placed 2nd at the one tournament he didn't win. These tournaments also consisted of Maesuma Offline (2nd at a stacked invitational), Sumabato SP 24 (1st at a regional), and Maesuma TOP 7 (1st at a major). In addition, he has either positive or even records against everyone he's played against.

I'm also not really a fan of you singling me out when I'm far from the only person calling him the best Steve (as can be seen on Reddit and Twitter). PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 09:46, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

After talking about it with other editors on Discord that also pay close attention to the competitive scene, we're more or less all in agreement that acola is the best Steve. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 16:53, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

Sorry for a late reply. I need to watch more of that player's gameplay to be honest, and I'm sorry if my behaviors have offended you, Jamal. I was kinda skeptical at everyone's statement on acola, so.. Hey, at least I didn't revert your edits, did I? CSR (talk) 23:16, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

"Best in the world"

This post is honestly a bit late, but you really need to chill with the "best in the world" edits. Like, you literally put Ouch!? as "one of the best in the world" after one performance. CookiesCreme 23:57, June 12, 2022 (EDT)

Well, I stand corrected. I guess I was too hyped for Ouch's performance. CSR (talk) 23:58, June 12, 2022 (EDT)

acola/Onin

I know it's your personal page, but saying "Even acola couldn't beat Leo" (despite acknowledging that they haven't played) seems a bit weird, considering a lot of people believe that acola has a great shot against Leo.

acola has winning records on nearly every player he's played and is the most consistent player in Japan by far (with his lowest placing being 4th, which only happened once), and Japan has been extremely strong this year at majors. I think saying Onin is on his level is way too early. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 19:38, August 14, 2022 (EDT)

Well, Onin is trying to get on acola's level, isn't he? OK, then.. I guess it's way to early for Onin to be equal to acola or top him. CSR (talk) 19:41, August 14, 2022 (EDT)

To be fair, I do think Onin is pretty clearly the 2nd-best Steve right now (with his win at GOML and his run at Smash Con right now). If he wins Smash Con, there's definitely an argument for sure. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 19:43, August 14, 2022 (EDT)

You can edit my personal page if you want to, Jamal. I don't mind discussing something like that on my talk page (but sometimes it makes me kinda anxious), but you can directly edit my personal page if you think my info is somewhat erroneous. I frequently watch major tournaments to determine who is doing good in tournaments, and that is reflected in my personal page. CSR (talk) 19:50, August 14, 2022 (EDT)

I gotcha. Sorry if I came off as too aggressive. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 19:52, August 14, 2022 (EDT)

I think this kind of stems from the problem that, historically, you've also edited the wiki in order to be similar to what you have on your best character page (eg most recently, ChocoTaco for Lucas). I don't think you've been doing this as often anymore and it's perfectly fine having your own opinions, but you should certainly note on your page that it's your opinion lest it causes confusion in the future. CookiesCreme 20:00, August 14, 2022 (EDT)

I get it. While I'm trying to be accurate, some of info on my personal page are based on my opinion, so I gotta point that out as well. I'm not editing actively like I was before and after Sora's release, but after the development of SSBU has ended, I don't edit my own page often as I did. CSR (talk) 20:19, August 14, 2022 (EDT)