Talk:Toon Link (SSBU)
Regarding the new article "Differences between Young Link and Toon Link"
The majority (And I mean 99%) of this article is a direct copy and paste of the exact same article from the Brawl Toon Link page, and thus, has an insane amount of misinformation. Some highlights include referencing Melee Young Link's weight/damage/framedata against Brawl Toon Link's weight/damage/framedata on an Ultimate character page, Dedede's chaingrab, the introduction of B-Reversing into Brawl, and many more.
A notable contributor to Young Link (Damascio) and I have had a chat with a Chat Operator (Alex95) in the ssbwiki Discord about all this, and we have yet to reach a proper conclusion on how to go about addressing this. Our concerns are the following:
- Completely deleting the article isn't a great option, as it falls under Vandalism (Though I personally have considered temporarily removing it until we finish a proper writeup)
- The article stands in a weird limbo of comparison, as I personally am unsure if it is even necessary to include an accurate writeup of the comparisons between Ultimate Toon Link to Ultimate Young Link like this, but such a comparison is not out-of-place on this website. However, if we do deem it necessary, do we also compare Ultimate Link?
- Trying to write up whole accurate sections of the differences between all three Link's is way more difficult now than it has ever been considering the amount of differences between them, so we're not sure how to go through with this. Should we also create an accurate comparison of Ultimate Link to Ultimate Toon Link, alongside a fixed comparison between Ultimate Young Link to Ultimate Toon Link, when we already have a comparison between Smash 4 Toon Link and Ultimate Toon Link? Do we only keep Ultimate Link alongside the Smash 4 -> Ultimate comparison? Just Smash 4 -> Ultimate?
I also think the current article as it currently stands should at least be temporarily removed or something until we are able to fix it up, but I am unsure how to proceed with that. Any ideas?
Gaberboo (talk) 16:34, 4 February 2019 (EST) I have placed a cleanup tag on the page to get more editors to see the problematic section.
Differences from Young Link
This section is absolutely unnecessary. Toon Link is very different from Young Link and is a unique character. Isabelle doesn't have a "Differences from Villager" section despite being much closer to Villager in design than Toon Link is from Young Link. I think that section needs to be removed. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 17:41, March 7, 2020 (EST)
- I completely agree with and support this statement. All I can really add is that this page needs an "attributes" section, which can explain the basic differences between Toon Link and the other Links. User:SuperSqank (talk) 17:47, March 7, 2020 (EST)
I asked the Toon Link Discord and Moobs told me that he and Dam, who made the comparison, felt forced to do it and they both think it's irrelevant and that the Links should not be compared anymore. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 22:24, March 9, 2020 (EDT)
I'd like to revive this discussion because of how pointless it is to compare Toon Link to Young Link especially after both were made drastically different in Ultimate. The characters' difference are so easy to notice that playing with them for 5 minutes will make them obvious. The most that is needed to compare them is a short paragraph and not a list of bullet points that essentially boil down to "This move is either completely different in every way or has a different animations and drastically altered properties. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 19:00, May 25, 2020 (EDT)