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::I disagree. While I'm not sure it merits it's own page, unlike the ones you mentioned, Bat Within is a completely separate mechanic and is ''not'' her down special. What you mentioned all can ''only'' be used by giving the same input as a different move, but the situation is different. Bat Within can not only activate at the same time as Witch Time, but it also is linked to her dodges in a way that is entirely separate from Witch Time. [[User:ScizorSteelix|<span style="color:red">Scizor</span>]][[User_talk:ScizorSteelix|<span style="color:gray">Steelix</span>]] 03:43, 22 February 2016 (EST)
::I disagree. While I'm not sure it merits it's own page, unlike the ones you mentioned, Bat Within is a completely separate mechanic and is ''not'' her down special. What you mentioned all can ''only'' be used by giving the same input as a different move, but the situation is different. Bat Within can not only activate at the same time as Witch Time, but it also is linked to her dodges in a way that is entirely separate from Witch Time. [[User:ScizorSteelix|<span style="color:red">Scizor</span>]][[User_talk:ScizorSteelix|<span style="color:gray">Steelix</span>]] 03:43, 22 February 2016 (EST)


::Ah, I see what you're getting at. And, with that logic, we'd have to have a separate page for Bullet Arts as well. I am not sure of the merits of either, but I understand all this. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 04:30, 22 February 2016 (EST)
:::Ah, I see what you're getting at. And, with that logic, we'd have to have a separate page for Bullet Arts as well. I am not sure of the merits of either, but I understand all this. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 04:30, 22 February 2016 (EST)

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MY point

My point is that projectiles don't trigger it from a difference, but long range attacks DO. Unowninator (talk) 12:09, 8 February 2016 (EST)

Corrin's forward smash triggers it. And your point is? AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Lovely Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 12:11, 8 February 2016 (EST)

It's just ironic because her bullets technically don't make contact. Unowninator (talk) 12:12, 8 February 2016 (EST)

Um...yea they do...otherwise they wouldn't do damage. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Lovely Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 12:13, 8 February 2016 (EST)

*Physical/direct contact Unowninator (talk) 12:14, 8 February 2016 (EST)

They don't make you flinch, but that doesn't mean it's not an attack. It's like Fox's blaster. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Lovely Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 12:18, 8 February 2016 (EST)

Fox's Blaster is a projectile. Think of it this way: if Fox shoots her from a distance, he'll stay at normal speed. If Bayonetta shoots another Bayonetta from a further distance, it'll slow down time. How is that not trivia?

Because it's a long range attack. Just like Corrin's forward smash. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Lovely Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 12:27, 8 February 2016 (EST)
I have to agree with Aidan. Your trivia point implies the attack is a projectile. While Bayonetta is shooting "projectiles", the attack functions as if she is swinging a really long sword. Your trivia point restates the fact the her Bullet Arts are not projectiles, and it just ends up being confusing. ScizorSteelix 14:10, 8 February 2016 (EST)

Witch Time and Bat Within's simultaneous trigger

I did this in Training mode. Apparently, with very precise timing between the move's activation and the incoming attack, Bayonetta's Witch Time and Bat Within can be triggered simultaneously. I probably could attempt to try it again and upload it?

Yin10Dou (talk) 21:58, 11 February 2016 (EST)

Can we please give Bat Within its own page? I feel it should be separated.

Mostly because of the dodges, but even the game doesn't mention it in the customization screen. Unowninator (talk) 23:47, 21 February 2016 (EST)

I would say not just because it's not mentioned on the customs screen, that and if we separated this, we'd also have to separate Finishing Touch, After Burner Kick, and Shin Shoryuken, which I don't think should be done, considering they're part of the same move and not a custom special. Disaster Flare DisasterFlareValentineSig.png (talk) 23:49, 21 February 2016 (EST)
I disagree. While I'm not sure it merits it's own page, unlike the ones you mentioned, Bat Within is a completely separate mechanic and is not her down special. What you mentioned all can only be used by giving the same input as a different move, but the situation is different. Bat Within can not only activate at the same time as Witch Time, but it also is linked to her dodges in a way that is entirely separate from Witch Time. ScizorSteelix 03:43, 22 February 2016 (EST)
Ah, I see what you're getting at. And, with that logic, we'd have to have a separate page for Bullet Arts as well. I am not sure of the merits of either, but I understand all this. MuteSpittah (talk) 04:30, 22 February 2016 (EST)