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What?  I don't get this article! - [[User:Brawlmatt202|Brawlmatt202]] 22:13, March 17, 2007 (GMT)
What?  I don't get this article! - [[User:Brawlmatt202|Brawlmatt202]] 22:13, March 17, 2007 (GMT)
IDK how to get this right, but can someone resize that image to fit the text better please? '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's Best Buddy</span>/<span style="color:Blue"> Bird Of Prey</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Don't try me</span></sup></small>]]''' 19:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
== Merge ==
'''Massive oppose''': Similar layout or not, NTSC and PAL are 2 different regions and therefore get 2 different pages. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 00:31, 9 March 2016 (EST)
:'''Oppose''' Even if we were to put aside Serpent's point (which I do agree with), I don't see how we would possibly be able to merge it without it looking weird or otherwise inconsistent. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 00:32, 9 March 2016 (EST)
::The only way I could see merging it working would be by making [[List of regional version differences]] something more along the lines of [[Alternate costume]] where it describes the idea generally while leaving game-by-game examples to the subpages. That would work to an extent, but I'm not sure it'd be an improvement. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 00:43, 9 March 2016 (EST)
:::These articles are less like counterparts, but more like mirrored pages. NTSC and PAL are in this weird doppelganger situation. i.e. (NTSC: There is no difference in gameplay between PAL in "Brawl".) (PAL: There is no difference in gameplay between NTSC in "Brawl".) (Hypothetical merge NTSC/PAL: In "Brawl" there is no difference between gameplay.) I think having one article that tells what each is and having it differentiate from each other makes more sense. Yes, they are different regions, but I personally don't see how that applies to what I'm saying here. [[User: RobSir_zx|<span style="color:orange">Rob</span><span style="color:blue">'''Sir '''</span>]] [[File:RobSir-sig.jpg|16px|link=http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/8/8d/G%26WTheme.ogg]] [[Special:Contributions/RobSir zx|<span style="color:red">zx</span>]] 01:17, 9 March 2016 (EST)
::::How is the fact that they are ''separate'' regions irrelevant? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 01:38, 9 March 2016 (EST)
I honestly don't see the point of this article or PAL's for the matter. I think we could merge PAL and NTSC with the List of Regional Differences pages, consequently beefing it up a tad (i.e. more information on what exactly they are plus photos of the maps) and call it good. Echoing Miles. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 03:34, 9 March 2016 (EST)
:'''Strong oppose'''. They are two different topics at the end of the day, and a merge along the lines of "International versions" would be a bit clunky. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 10:35, 9 March 2016 (EST)
:OPPOSE BIG TIME [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the Pumpkin Pie 14:57, 9 March 2016 (EST)
'''Support some kind of merge of both pages with Regional differences'''. They're both very short, plus the Regional differences page already contains the exact same information about the PAL/NTSC standards. -[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 15:09, 9 March 2016 (EST)
'''Oppose''': They are distinct enough from each other to have separate articles. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Gamer 15:52, 10 March 2016 (EST)
'''Oppose,''' as they are different areas even if the articles are the same. [[User:AmoongussForLife|<span style="color:green">AmoongussForLife</span>]] [[File:AmoongussForLife's_signature.png]][[User_talk:AmoongussForLife|<span style="color:purple">Talk</span>]] 19:03, 10 March 2016 (EST)

Latest revision as of 20:03, March 10, 2016

What? I don't get this article! - Brawlmatt202 22:13, March 17, 2007 (GMT)

IDK how to get this right, but can someone resize that image to fit the text better please? Ike's Best Buddy/ Bird Of PreyDon't try me 19:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Merge[edit]

Massive oppose: Similar layout or not, NTSC and PAL are 2 different regions and therefore get 2 different pages. Serpent SKSig.png King 00:31, 9 March 2016 (EST)

Oppose Even if we were to put aside Serpent's point (which I do agree with), I don't see how we would possibly be able to merge it without it looking weird or otherwise inconsistent. Disaster Flare My signature image for the default signature. Duplicate of Lucina's life white stock head. (talk) 00:32, 9 March 2016 (EST)
The only way I could see merging it working would be by making List of regional version differences something more along the lines of Alternate costume where it describes the idea generally while leaving game-by-game examples to the subpages. That would work to an extent, but I'm not sure it'd be an improvement. Miles (talk) 00:43, 9 March 2016 (EST)
These articles are less like counterparts, but more like mirrored pages. NTSC and PAL are in this weird doppelganger situation. i.e. (NTSC: There is no difference in gameplay between PAL in "Brawl".) (PAL: There is no difference in gameplay between NTSC in "Brawl".) (Hypothetical merge NTSC/PAL: In "Brawl" there is no difference between gameplay.) I think having one article that tells what each is and having it differentiate from each other makes more sense. Yes, they are different regions, but I personally don't see how that applies to what I'm saying here. RobSir RobSir-sig.jpg zx 01:17, 9 March 2016 (EST)
How is the fact that they are separate regions irrelevant? Serpent SKSig.png King 01:38, 9 March 2016 (EST)

I honestly don't see the point of this article or PAL's for the matter. I think we could merge PAL and NTSC with the List of Regional Differences pages, consequently beefing it up a tad (i.e. more information on what exactly they are plus photos of the maps) and call it good. Echoing Miles. MuteSpittah (talk) 03:34, 9 March 2016 (EST)

Strong oppose. They are two different topics at the end of the day, and a merge along the lines of "International versions" would be a bit clunky. Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Contribs) 10:35, 9 March 2016 (EST)
OPPOSE BIG TIME PoultrysigSSB4.pngPoultryPoultrysigSSBM.png(talk) the Pumpkin Pie 14:57, 9 March 2016 (EST)

Support some kind of merge of both pages with Regional differences. They're both very short, plus the Regional differences page already contains the exact same information about the PAL/NTSC standards. -Menshay (talk) 15:09, 9 March 2016 (EST)

Oppose: They are distinct enough from each other to have separate articles. Dots (talk) 60% tech skill, 30% crazy, 10% you name it. :P The Gamer 15:52, 10 March 2016 (EST)

Oppose, as they are different areas even if the articles are the same. AmoongussForLife AmoongussForLife's signature.pngTalk 19:03, 10 March 2016 (EST)