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Sorry, but there already is a wiki on Super Smash Bros. It can be found here. – Smiddle 14:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

8'( ... Max2 *sigh* ANOTHER dup. Wiki??? *sighs again*

Also, I requested an SSB Wikia way before now... it wasn't approved... – Smiddle 19:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Smiddle. It was because we had received a few different applications that I realised this must be very popular and decided to make it now. If you'd like to be a joint-founder here, I can make you one since you were one of the people to propose this wiki. Angela ^talk 16:59, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

WAIT! You need to be logged on to a furom, give out your age, etc. for those who want privacy for that, this deserves to stay. Max2 agree???

The only reason you need to give your age out is that if you're below 12, they'l send your parents a letter an tell them you're a member of the forum. You can choose not to display your age. Besides, it's a lot easier to contribute to an already vibrant wiki, than creating lots of pages with info alrady existing. – Smiddle 21:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Some parents (aka. mine) don't want us (aka. me) to give out information like birthdate, where we live, adress, Email, etc. Max2

Don't forget about licensing. It's sometimes nicer to work on a GFDL compatible wiki. Smashwiki doesn't list the license as that. ~Dantman-local^{(Dantman|local)} Apr 6, 2007 _@ 06:41 ^(UTC)

I don't understand what this vote below is about. What is it you're supporting? The existence of this wiki? Angela ^talk 17:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

yes. Support is if you want it to stay, Oppose is if you want to abandon and move to "the other Wiki" Max2

done. This Wiki stays. Max2

Wikia Gaming footer

Hello! I went ahead and added a Wikia Gaming footer to the bottom of the Main Page. We're trying to get Wikia's gaming wikis more linked with each other. It's not mandatory, so you can remove it if you really hate it, but it would be appreciated if you didn't :). You can change the links to point to any other wikia wikis you like or cooperate with. Ausir 17:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Browse SmashWiki

I took out the link to SmashWiki:Browse because it's redundant with the main page. Should we expand the main page a little bit, to perhaps include "Smashers" as a category, or maybe link to some Help topics? I plan to retouch the main page but I want to gather your opinions first. – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 17:56, February 5, 2007 (GMT)

I'm not sure about including Smashers as a category, but I'm certainly open to other layouts for the Main Page. Maybe you could make a sample Main Page and put it as a subpage or a user page or something? Making the help section more obvious would make sense, I think. --Kirby King 20:36, February 5, 2007 (GMT)

Main Page seems bare

Shouldn't the main pageinclude stuff, like, the current number of articles, and maybe, perhaps, an article of the day/week? I'm just wondering, as mostother Wiki have those sort of things. It's a work in progress, right? There will be stuff like that eventually, right?

-Brawlmatt202, Feb. 6, 2007

That's a good point. The "article of the week" sounds like a good idea, and I think Alt's old wiki had something like "did you know?" that would be interesting to incorporate, too. Since we're still in development (hmm, maybe we should include that fact in the main page!), I'd say it's better to brainstorm a little before making any big changes, as long as we have a bombastic main page when SmashWiki is fully released. – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 04:30, February 7, 2007 (GMT)

I think articles of the week were discussed before. The problem was that we don't have many really good articles. Probably not enough to do without recurring pages. Development must be mentioned very subtily, if at all. We don't want a big posterboard board which basically screams "Wait! It's not done yet!" What exactly would the "Did you know?" incorporate? It seems like it could definitely be decent filler. -- Bean 06:42, February 7, 2007 (GMT)

Well, Smiddle's old wiki can be found here. So that's the type of "did you know" information we might have. – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 03:32, February 8, 2007 (GMT)

Did you know, that Luigi's voice is in fact a sped up version of Mario's from Mario 64? I like the Did you know, and hell, I already learned something. I think it's a good idea. -- Bean 04:45, February 8, 2007 (GMT)

An article of the week (or day, or whatever) would be great, and an article counter would be perfect for measuring how close the site is to being "done." WaluigiIsAwesome 02:16, February 10, 2007 (GMT)

Also, having articles of the week will encourage better contributions and editing. In theory anyway. -- Randall00 20:23, February 15, 2007 (GMT)

I certainly think so. I don't think an article of the week has to be a particularly good one, perhaps we can use such a feature to encourage a week's worth of activity to an article that desperately needs the thought. AOTW could be used more as an improvement drive than a quality showcase. I think the first such article should be one of the main game modes to the original Super Smash Bros to start with. Erik the Appreciator 04:53, February 16, 2007 (GMT)

I agree about the improvement drive idea. I guess AotW is already for quality articles, but I think it's important that we include a few links to some articles that are in some real need of expansion and that we think casual users can contribute to if they come across it. --Kirby King 19:08, February 18, 2007 (GMT)

I kinda like that I put heal instead of edit, records instead of history and so on ^_^ – Smiddle ( Talk • Conts ) 19:36, February 18, 2007 (GMT)

That will require tweaking the help articles to say "heal" instead of "edit," but I can do that. – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 22:52, February 18, 2007 (GMT)

Uhh...heal? -- Randall00 05:58, February 19, 2007 (GMT)

Alt's idea. I was trying it out. I think I'm changing it back though. "Records" is clear, but "heal" isn't. – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 16:27, February 19, 2007 (GMT)

I'm not honestly sold on the "records" idea. I'd rather keep things nice and clear, because if I didn't know that there's supposed to be a history tab there I don't think I'd get that that's what "records" is supposed to be. (Plus the tie-in to SSB seems pretty shaky to me.) --Kirby King 04:47, February 20, 2007 (GMT)

"Records" does not make sense to me at all. I think almost anyone would expect to see high scores when they click on it. And per se Andy 14:31, February 22, 2007 (GMT)

"History" makes sense, there's a reason it's the default. Besides, there's certainly more important things to be worrying about on SmashWiki than distinguishing ourselves from other wikis with unorthodox names. -- Randall00 15:14, February 22, 2007 (GMT)

I changed it back. – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 15:21, February 22, 2007 (GMT)

"Records" also make sense. When we don't can find anything to worry about, the only thing to do is distinguishing ourselves from other wikis with unorthodox names. We want to be original, it's better to see some new stuff, than "Oh! A link saying 'history'! That's really original" and "The 'edit' button really surprised me". – Smiddle ( Talk • Conts ) 15:35, February 22, 2007 (GMT)

I'm not that concerned with distinguishing ourselves, really. How many other Smash Bros. wikis are out there? Even then it's much more important to me that we remain easy to use and edit, and changing all the labels around startled me, and I'm a sysop on this thing. (As a side note, when I see other wikis that play around with those labels, I think it's corny. It's putting form over function, at least to the extent to which a button's label can do such a thing.) --Kirby King 16:03, February 22, 2007 (GMT)

<dedent>I say, let's improve the articles before worrying about cute aesthetics. I had my fun with the MediaWiki namespace; I think I'll leave the default settings as is (except for "discuss," which works nicely) – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 03:53, February 23, 2007 (GMT)

About the DYK: I think anything we put there must (a) be totally true, and not something that we can't actually verify like "Koopa was supposed to be in SSB64 but was cut due to time constraints," and (b) is actually mentioned in the associated articles. Right now, the fact about Mario's Wario costume is entirely true, but strangely enough the costume isn't mentioned on either Mario's page or Wario's. Seems to me if it's not worthy for inclusion on those pages, it's way too trivial to be Main Page material. --Kirby King 04:52, February 20, 2007 (GMT)

Maybe. I have an idea here speaking about the DYK. – Smiddle ( Talk • Conts ) 07:56, February 20, 2007 (GMT)

Page Layout

As we add things to the main page, I'm afraid that we're gravitating toward a layout that's a bit too Wikipedia-like. Does anyone want to try their hand at coming up with a design that seems a little less influenced directly by the English Wikipedia's Main Page? --Kirby King 04:49, February 20, 2007 (GMT)

What's so wrong about that? When I think at Wikipedia, I associate encyclopedia, facts, etc. So if the main page looks like Wikipedia's, then... – Smiddle ( Talk • Conts ) 07:51, February 20, 2007 (GMT)

Talk about irony...

The "under construction" link is broken. We should probably remove it until the article actually exists. It's kind of embarrasing. WaluigiIsAwesome 09:02, February 27, 2007 (GMT)

In dire need of uniformity

I notice lots of different uses of tenses and POVs in naming schemes. For example, there are two articles for the Wall Jump, named Wall jump and Wall jumping. Also, we need to use proper title caps for article titles. "Wall jump" is not acceptable. I suggest a non plural(unless several types exist) and neutral tense titles. No "Wave Dashing", "wave Dashing", or "Bunny Hoods". "Beam Swords" might be acceptable if the article covers both Beam Swords in the series. Page URLs and locations are case sensitive. We MUST decide on a uniform naming system now, or we'll have a total mess. It would be best to get everything organized now, while the number of pages are small and link fixing is minimal. xnamkcor 03/08/07 1600(AZ/US)

This belongs in the Pool Room. WaluigiIsAwesome 18:16, March 9, 2007 (GMT)

Moved to the Pool Room. – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 19:36, March 9, 2007 (GMT)

AOTW

doesn't seem to be showing up even after I changed the page, refreshed the page and even looked at it with a fresh browser. it might just be my problem, but any weird edits to the main page are due to this reason. – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 03:13, March 12, 2007 (GMT)

There we go. Does anybody know if there's some weird property of using a template in a template like we are doing with the AOTW? – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 03:15, March 12, 2007 (GMT)

Try using {{Article of the Week/{{CURRENTYEAR}}-{{CURRENTWEEK}}}} instead of just {{Article of the Week}}. For some reason it was a redlink when I edited it. – Smiddle ( Talk • Conts ) 18:20, March 12, 2007 (GMT)

On a related note, the current Article of the Week (Wavedash) did not receive any votes besides the nomination, so it became AOTW by default......it would be better if we voted and nominated more articles. – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 03:26, March 12, 2007 (GMT)

We also need a template or logo or something to show that it's featured. WaluigiIsAwesome 22:22, March 12, 2007 (GMT)

The delayed posting has to do with the page cache. You can add "?action=purge" to the end of the address to refresh the cache. I'm not sure whether or not Alt's advice would make the page reload any faster or not, but it might have an impact. --Kirby King 03:32, March 13, 2007 (GMT)

April Fools Day, anyone?

Think we could pull off a little AFD joke? Nothing too spectacular, just something simple, like making someone's user page a featured article, or changing the logo. WaluigiIsAwesome 09:00, April 1, 2007 (GMT)

Or I know! Add something ridiculous to the DYK, but make it a link to a page that says "April Fools!" WaluigiIsAwesome 09:01, April 1, 2007 (GMT)

There is no reason for us to do anything themed or catchy or along the lines of an April's fools joke for that matter. This is an information site rather than a fan or forum site like the smashboards. Leave that for the smash boards. -homelessvagrant

Balance

The left column is too long, and the right one is too... well, I guess you can guess. Short, duh. – Smiddle ( Talk • Conts ) 10:07, April 4, 2007 (GMT)

Merging moves

I think that there should be one article about all of a characters' moves. Can't hurt, can it? - A Link to the Snitch 17:26, October 17, 2007 (EDT)

If Roy counter's an oil panic charged by 3 Pk flashes is the most powerful attack in the game.is that real? please check that i have 2 controllers and my big bro took my gc. and please see if it would be stronger with another counter or without any counter. Please because i think that isn't real, Roy's Counter isn't that strong.--Zinnamon 22:13, October 20, 2007 (EDT)

Nah, it's true. Roy's counter is potentially the strongest attack in the game, because it takes the damage that would be done to him and sends it back at 1.5x power. Also, Fox's reflector increases the power of projectiles by 1.5. Ness's PK Flash does 39 at max, so...

39*1.5 = 59 (power of each Flash, reflected and rounded up)

59*3 = 171 (Total power of Oil Panic)

171*1.5 = 257 (Total power of Oil Panic, countered and rounded up).

So... wait a second. Why does it say 372 damage on the DYK? >_> NeonCrusader 20:34, December 27, 2007 (EST)

Your right it is incorrect, not to mention that it could be double countered by another roy to add another 1.5x damage would bring it to 386 (rounded up)--Enshoku 02:51, February 5, 2008 (EST)

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas eve guys.--Fandangox 02:01, December 24, 2007 (EST)

Erm...

I dunno if this is old or not, but...

Another Smash Wiki?

<_< Blaiken 16:52, January 16, 2007 (EST)

That's that same Wikia-owned Wiki we were talking about before... I would like to make clear how that's different from this externally hosted wiki: That wiki emphasizes writing about the Smash Bros. franchise in encyclopedic style, while this wiki emphasizes writing about everything in the world that would be of interest and important to the Smash Bros. fan community (which is much broader in scope than the competing wiki over there), in relatively encyclopedic style. Also, that wiki being a Wikia wiki shares its license with Wikipedia itself, so that wiki can legally have copy-and-pasted text and images from Wikipedia, while we can't plagiarize either of them from Wikipedia and the competing Smash Bros. wiki because our license is different. Erik, Lord of Universes 02:20, January 17, 2008 (EST)

Refinement

I feel that there are many certain acrticles that need refinement. It contains too much lingo and seems unprofessional. One example is the [Captain Falcon (SSBM)|Captain Falcon] article. Of course, I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing being relativley non-active here. Un1234l 18:12, February 2, 2008 (EST)

Kamikaze

First of all, hello everyone. I signed up a few days ago, and I will contribute to this site frequently. Now that I've introduced myself, I would like to bring up the article Kamikaze that I created. A few characters can use this sort of tactic. I know of Donkey Kong and Kirby. This is why I believe Kirbycide can be merged with Kamikaze. Kirbycide refers to Kirby's own kamikaze techniques, and it is well known because a professional uses them and coined the word. However, the field of kamikaze as a whole has been left neglected on the wiki. --Amygravity 13:34, February 10, 2008 (EST)

Feel free to! --Sky (t | c | w) 16:42, February 10, 2008 (EST)

Most powerful move?

I'm not sure, but wouldn't the most powerful move be 3 PK Flashes reflected by Fox, caught by Mr. G&W, and then countered by Roy? Sorry, I'm just not sure if PK Flashes can be reflected by Fox... -Ravrahn 14:57, February 13, 2008 (EST)

Idea and a Apology

Well first time on and I already screwed up. I edited a help page on accident :( so sorry.... well anyways I need help, I'm trying to find strategies for different characters against others, like Meta-knight vs Bowser and stuff like that... So can you help plz :( . LegendTamer 14:38, 6 March 2008 (UTC)