Talk:Heihachi Mishima

The word “cameo” on Heihachi’s appearance in the Namco Roulette

If we’re not counting Mario Maker costumes as cameos of the character, then the Namco Roulette can’t really be considered a cameo either. Both are just sprites, and both are technically not said character (the Mario Maker costumes are still technically Mario, and the Namco Roulette are technically just props on Pac-Man’s taunts, rather than the actual characters). If one doesn’t count as a cameo, I personally don’t think the other should count either. Because right now, Heihachi’s page says that he cameos in pixel form. Lou Cena (talk) 20:07, June 30, 2019 (EDT)

For lack of a better way of wording this, what on earth are you talking about? Alex the Jigglypuff trainer 20:11, June 30, 2019 (EDT)

If I had to hazard a guess, I think Lou's equating the Namco Roulette sprites to Mario Maker costumes? But the Mario Maker costumes don't count only because they're Mario in a costume, not because they're sprites. It's fine to call a Namco Roulette appearance a "cameo". ~ Serena Strawberry (talk) 20:18, June 30, 2019 (EDT)

Currently, the page reads this:

While Heihachi no longer appears as a Mii Fighter costume, he instead cameos in pixel form during Pac-Man's Namco Roulette taunt. The sprite is taken from Tekken Tag Tournament 2, and is based on his gray-haired appearance from Tekken 3 onwards.

The thing I’m concerned about is the word “cameo”. There was a recent discussion concluding that Lucas and Dark Pit’s appearances as Mystery Mushroom costumes in Super Mario Maker do not count as cameos, due to those technically being Mario. The problem is those are also full sprites with unique sound effects, much like the characters in the Namco Roulette. There’s also the fact that the Namco Roulette characters are also technically not those characters, but rather, props. I figured that if Mystery Mushroom costumes aren’t really cameos, neither are the Namco Roulette characters, as both are merely sprites, and neither are technically the character themselves. So I replaced the word “cameo” with “referenced” on this page and Gil to watch on the wording, yet both edits were undone. Maybe starting a discussion based on one word was going a little too far, but it was the only way to debate on changing that one word without edit warring. Hopefully that clears it up a little bit. Lou Cena (talk) 20:21, June 30, 2019 (EDT)