Greninja (SSB4)/Up smash

Hitbox visualization showing Greninja's up smash.

Overview

Two reverse gripped outward arcing slashes while wielding two katanas made of water. The move consists of two hits: a double stab upwards followed by an outward rip. Its sweetspot is the initial upward stab, which chains directly into the second hit. It has very high power, KOing at around 98% and is Greninja's strongest finisher, despite being nerfed. The outward slashes are easier to connect from the side with due to their range but are much weaker, KOing at 125% at the edge. The sweetspot is useful for aerial protection or covering ledge jump options, and the outward rip can be used in the same fashion as a down smash.

Update History

1.0.0

• Ending lag (FAF 42 → 50)

1.0.4/ 1.0.1

• Ending lag (FAF 42 /50 → 52)
• First hit hitbox size (6.5u → 5u)
• Clean second hit sweetspot size (7u → 6u).
• Second hit clean sourspot damage (13% → 11%)
• Clean second hit far hits y offset (-5 → -4).
• Late second hit damage (11% → 10%).

1.1.3

• Second hit sweetspot knockback scaling (103 → 104).

Hitboxes

ID	Part	Damage	SD	Angle	BK	KS	FKV	Radius	Bone	Offset			SDIx	H×	T%	Clang	Rebound	Type	Effect	G	A	Sound	Direct
Hit 1
0	0	5%	0		30	120	0	5.0	0	0.0	27.0	0.0	1.0x	1.4x	0%							Slash
Hit 2 (clean)
0	0	14%	0		30	104	0	6.0	0	0.0	27.0	0.0	1.0x	1.4x	0%							Slash
1	0	11%	0		30	100	0	4.7	25	0.0	-4.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%							Slash
2	0	11%	0		30	100	0	4.7	24	0.0	-4.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%							Slash
3	0	11%	0		30	100	0	3.5	25	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%							Slash
4	0	11%	0		30	100	0	3.5	24	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%							Slash
Hit 2 (late)
1	0	10%	0		30	98	0	3.2	0	0.0	8.0	12.0	1.0x	1.4x	0%							Slash

Timing

Charges between	8-9
First hit	12-17
Second hit (clean) (sweet)	18
Second hit (clean) (sour)	18-20
Second hit (Late)	21
Interruptible	52
Animation length	67

Greninja's moveset

Neutral attack (1 · 2 · 3 · inf) · Forward tilt · Up tilt · Down tilt · Dash attack · Forward smash · Up smash · Down smash
Neutral aerial · Forward aerial · Back aerial · Up aerial · Down aerial
Grab · Pummel · Forward throw · Back throw · Up throw · Down throw
Floor attack (front) · Floor attack (back) · Floor attack (trip) · Edge attack
Neutral special (def · c1 · c2) · Side special (def · c1 · c2) · Up special (def · c1 · c2) · Down special (def · c1 · c2) · Final Smash
Down taunt