Forum:Recategorizing tournament series pages

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A while back, a new change was implemented regarding categories for tournament pages, where the old categories were replaced with "Regional", "Superregional", "Major", and "Supermajor". As we also discontinued using the term "national", the category has since been retired, and efforts have been made to recategorize all tournaments that have that category. However, while doing so a new issue has appeared: dealing with tournament series pages.

Currently, there are no specific categories for tournament series aside from Category:Tournament series and Category:Discontinued tournament series. On the other hand, many tournament series have been categorized using regular tournament categories, and as such tournament series often have multiple tournament series categories. For example, currently Kagaribi has the following categories: Category:Superregional tournaments (SSBU), Category:Major tournaments (SSBU), and Category:Supermajor tournaments (SSBU). Not only is this not helpful in determining what level of prestige the tournament series is, but it could be confusing to readers: how can a tournament series be a superregional, major, and supermajor-level tournament series all at the same time? Of course, these categories are merely identifying the sizes of the tournaments in the series, but then the categories are effectively pointless on the tournament series page, especially if there is no indicator which events in the series are of each tournament size. In addition, currently many tournament series are not properly categorized with the new categories by game, and as such a page like The Big House would be very much bloated with many different tournament categories.

As such, I propose one the following two options in fixing the issue:

  • Option 1: Create new categories for the tournament series, sorted by game as well. The major issue with this are the border cases, in which case it can be considered by a case-by-case basis, but I believe this should cover most if not all tournament series on the wiki. A rough idea that I have is the following:
    • Category:Premier tournament series for the most prestigious tournament series (GENESIS, Smash Con, Big House for Melee)
    • Category:Major tournament series for tournament series that have some national-level presence but nothing on the scale of the premier events (Glitch, Smash 'N' Splash, Sumabato). I would personally prefer "National" over "Major" however I would rather not use a term that we have effectively discontinued its usage.
    • Category:Regional tournament series for tournament series that are on a regional-level or are mostly composed of players from in-region (Show Me Your Moves, Overclocked, Orbitar)
    • Category:Weekly tournament series for weeklies (Mega Smash Mondays, Ignition, Nimbus).

Likewise, we could use the same category names as what we have for the tournament categories.

  • Option 2: Remove these categories entirely. To me this is the easiest way to do it all and is also what Liquipedia does, however there would be no separation between series like GENESIS and series like Overclocked.

There is also leave as is, however the issue would still remain.

In addition, majors on these pages should be bolded, while supermajors should be bolded and italicized, just like what we do on Smasher pages.

I would like to hear all of your thoughts on this. Personally, as much as I think Option 1 would be great, I believe Option 2 would probably be the best and most "feasible". CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 22:42, January 1, 2024 (EST)

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