Forum:Adding Spirit battle sections to stages (similar to the ones on Fighter pages)

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This discussion is in regards to a proposed change on SmashWiki. The discussion must first meet with a consensus before it is implemented.

If you haven't seen them around, every fighter's SSBU page has an "In Spirit battles" section that lists every Spirit that uses them as a puppet fighter. The core of this post is pretty simple: I believe that if a list of every Spirit battle in which a specific fighter appears is worthy of inclusion, then a list of every Spirit battle taking place on a specific stage is also worthy of inclusion. Most stages are only used in five or so battles, so I don't think it would make any page particularly long. It was brought to my attention that I should make a proposal for this, and so I'm doing it now. (Just a heads-up: I highly suspect the merit of the sections on fighter pages is going to be debated here as well.) Ahemtoday (talk) 12:42, June 22, 2019 (EDT)

To be honest, doesn’t it kind of bloat the fighter pages? And like it was mentioned, we’d have to be constantly be updating on ALL of the stages, not to mention ALL of the fighter pages with new Spirts. Along with the actual Spirit pages, we’d have to be constantly updating over 200 pages. That doesn’t seem practical at all. I think Spirit Battles should only be of the Spirit pages, and not bloating the stage and fighter pages. Plus, it’s just repeated information. Like stickers, I think only the images of the Spirits are necessary on the non-Spirit pages. 47.199.39.81 12:56, June 22, 2019 (EDT)

I think you overestimate how difficult it would be to update the pages - it's not like every single one needs to be updated when DLC spirits get added, just the ones that appear in the new spirit battles. And that's not a lot - the most that have been added at once are the ones that come with Joker's DLC, which had eleven spirits. Unless they're secretly planning to drop a hundred or so on us, I don't think it'd be an issue. Not to mention, adding Spirits to the section isn't very difficult. It's basically just a copypaste job. Ahemtoday (talk) 13:17, June 22, 2019 (EDT)

That word you used, “copy paste”? That’s precisely the problem. Just “repeated” information that it perfectly fine on the Spirit pages. It is “redundant” to add the same information in numerous places. The exceptions is where it makes sense AND doesn’t bloat the page. Trophies and stickers are examples of acceptable repeated information. Spirit Battles are basically Ultimate’s event matches, which aren’t listed on the stage or fighter pages. 47.199.39.81 13:32, June 22, 2019 (EDT)

Well, I'd like to challenge the notion that it isn't useful. If I want to look at all the spirits that, say, Dark Pit represents (because I'm curious in what situations he would be used over regular Pit), if the "In Spirit battles" section didn't exist, what would I do then? Comb through all thirty or so Spirit articles just to find the four times Dark Pit shows up? Ahemtoday (talk) 15:05, June 22, 2019 (EDT)

Couldn't you just use Ctrl-F to find them? The Spirit Battles already list what stage they take place on, so there does not seem to be a need to list them on the stage pages. I do agree with 47.199.39.81 in that it seems to just be a replacement for events. With that in mind, I don't really see a need to list the Spirit Battles on the character pages either, especially when you can just use use Ctrl-F. There is currently a page up for deletion called "List of spirits (complete list)", which is targeted for deletion for repetition (Using Ctrl-F is as an example in favor of deleting it). I feel that this is a similar, if not the same, kind of situation. Wolff (talk) 13:59, June 23, 2019 (EDT)

Ctrl-F makes it easier, but you still have to open thirty seperate pages to find them all, which is, as they say, a lot - and I don't think making people open thirty tabs at once is worth it to eliminate "redundancy". Ahemtoday (talk) 16:53, June 23, 2019 (EDT)