Talk:Hammer (move)

Sweetspot

Why is it good for a move to have no sweetspot? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbe (talk • contribs) 20:45, 9 August 2009

Moves with sweetspots are usually high-risk-high-reward moves. Take Falcon's knee for example - if it hits, it HITS; if it misses, it's useless. (And unless you're t3h mast3r, it will miss often.) Moves without sweetspots don't have the raw power, but are generally more reliable, and therefore arguably more useful. (And don't forget to sign your talk page comments with ~~~~.) Toomai Glittershine The Stats Guy 20:01, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I can't sign because no matter how hard I try to press on the top of the key, it comes out like this. ```` And I AM t3h mast3r. Oh, wait, should I click on the cursive writing button? --Sbe (talk) 20:08, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

To put it another way, if there's no "sweetspot", there's also no "sourspot", so no matter which part of the hammer makes contact, it does the same damage and knockback, so you don't have to worry as much about aiming the attack. And yes, if ~~~~ doesn't work, just use the button with cursive writing on it - it does exactly the same thing. PenguinofDeath 21:02, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Wait, what? You've been pressing the top of the [`~] key to get the "~"? Just use the Shift key; same as if you're trying to get a "?". Toomai Glittershine The Table Designer 21:10, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

For me, aiming an attack is as easy as using it. Sbe (talk)

Name

Has the move actually been named "Hammer Flip" in SSB4, or is it just the name of the charge-and-release part of it? Toomai Glittershine The Incomprehensible 16:38, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

im pretty sure its now Hammer Flip. In Kirby games its called SUPER Hammer Flip. --Myth 16:49, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

Hammer Flip

In Triple Deluxe (and probably Return to Dream Land and Dream Collection's challenges), "Hammer" is Kirby's standard B attack, while "Hammer Flip" is his up B attack. In Smash, I believe that Hammer and Hammer Flip work differently enough to be considered separate moves. I would like others' opinions on this. Red (talk) 20:50, 18 June 2014 (EDT)

Hammer Flip should be covered on this page, honestly. That's like saying we need to cover all of Marth's Dancing Blade permutations separately. Variants of the same move belong on the same page, not separate ones. Miles (talk) 20:59, 18 June 2014 (EDT)

However, in this case, it has a different name and works much differently. Red (talk) 21:04, 18 June 2014 (EDT)

We're covering customization options on the same pages as the main versions, and this is no more different than those. Info on Hammer Flip belongs as a part of this article. Miles (talk) 21:09, 18 June 2014 (EDT)

Okay. then. Red (talk) 21:22, 18 June 2014 (EDT)

EGX Booklet

I'm mostly only putting this here to avoid SW:1RV, but I believe my edit was wrongly reverted. It's questionable as to whether or not we should revert all uses of "Hammer Flip" back to "Hammer", but everything I put in my edit was factual, even if it were just mere trivia. Toast ltimatum 17:32, 29 September 2014 (EDT)

Does the American version of Smash 3DS call the move "Hammer Flip" or something? Because in my PAL game, the move is clearly named Hammer, and I fail to see why we haven't changed back yet if there isn't a regional difference involved. Toast ltimatum 12:24, 9 November 2014 (EST)

Yeah my Canadian version calls it "Hammer Flip" (both game and booklet). Toomai Glittershine The Metroid 12:39, 9 November 2014 (EST)

I'll go around making edits to reflect the regional difference then. However, seeing as the PAL version treats Hammer Flip like the same move as Hammer from Brawl, should we still list the move separately in Kirby's move table? Toast ltimatum 12:49, 9 November 2014 (EST)

Personally, I think we should ignore what NoA thinks and only call it the "Hammer Flip" when it's fully charged, like how some people refuse to call it the Fire Jump Punch unless the sweetspot is hit. Toomai Glittershine The Free 12:53, 9 November 2014 (EST)

That would make sense to me. It provides consistency, and the PAL version does specify that the move "becomes" Hammer Flip at full charge. Toast ltimatum 12:59, 9 November 2014 (EST)

Duplicate Electric Ness

here's a video of a glitch involving Kirby's hand to be on fire.

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Smashworker101 (talk) 22:25, 15 February 2015 (EST)