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LittleMacmain97, a new kind of noob. (talk) 17:20, 9 June 2015 (EDT)

I see that you're in the process of cleaning up..

...but I'll give you one anyway:

You are doing good. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 06:53, 4 October 2015 (EDT)

Awesome, thanks :). BUT... It says "cleaning up the taunt pages"... --BeepYou (talk) 07:05, 4 October 2015 (EDT)

Pooooooooooop...I fixed it. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 07:16, 4 October 2015 (EDT)

Also, you do not main the worst character in the game, unless you main Dedede. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 09:31, 4 October 2015 (EDT)

Exactly. Mac has INSANE ground power, CRAZY fast moves (how fast? FRAME 1 JAB!), but all that pros come at a cost... because he has REALLY bad air power. Heck, even the OHKO KO uppercut goes from KOing at 10% to KOing at 150%. (Sorry for off topic) INoMed (Talk) 09:36, 4 October 2015 (EDT)

Uh...he mains Palutena. But yeah, Mac is upper mid tier imo. Lel Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 09:39, 4 October 2015 (EDT)

I do not think she's really the worst... that is, if there is indeed potential due to the shield mechanics harming her a lot. It is the crowd who considers her the worst because she is entirely crippled by the pathetic frame data on her moveset, and they will possibly say she is even worse than before due to the shield mechanics. I just say she's the worst so people shut up and let me use whoever the bloop I want. Also, I do not think Dedede is the worst, there are even worse characters like Dr. Mario... Dedede also seems to be more decent due to the increased hitlag and shieldstun. And nah, it wasn't really off topic, INoMed. --BeepYou (talk) 09:42, 4 October 2015 (EDT)

I have my reasons, and they are here. Omega Tyrant, who is an admin here, is the reason I think that, when I told him Dedede was underrated. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 09:53, 4 October 2015 (EDT)

I do think he's one of the worst, but I do not really think he is the absolute worst. Maybe, and only maybe time will tell us... as well as the changes to the shield... well, you know. --BeepYou (talk) 09:59, 4 October 2015 (EDT)

It kind of poops on his face because a lot of his moves (especially fair, which is made very unsafe) don't have a ton of hitlag, barring smashes. Why is fair so weak and non-hitlaggy that it is unsafe on hit, but still doesn't autocancel in a short hop? Also, I would appreciate if you read and give your feedback to the forum. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 10:13, 4 October 2015 (EDT)

My response to this.

I saw your edit... and I must say: I don't think "m2k" has the worst special moveset in the game alongside Pally. His reflector in Confusion is quick and has low ending lag, his projectile in Shadow Ball is very powerful when fully charged, and his Teleport is pretty good as it is quick and gives him a lot of momentum. The only special move that has no use is Disable: it is slow, has more endlag than Confusion and can be reflected. Jiggs' special moves are wildly polarized as Pound can be used for combos, recovery and KOing (the latter is very situational though) and Rest makes the opponent rest in peace, while Rollout and Sing are telegraphed very easily. I think both "Jiggs" and "lol m2k" compete for the second worst special moveset.

Pally's default specials are all bad except Warp (which still has issues), as Autorecticle will hit only 30% of the time, Reflect and Counter are slow and have a lot of ending lag, and Warp has no hitboxes and even when she is about to teleport she can be hit, as well as having range as short as Mewtwo but no momentum to compensate. Those are the reasons why she has indeed the worst one (sadly). --You

As for Mewtwo, Shadow Ball has no charging hitbox and needs more than 10 frames more time to charge than Lucario's and doesn't have high enough growth to compensate. Confusion is punishable on hit and has pretty bad range, and Teleport has you eat massive landing lag should you land just as you reappear, and has no hitboxes like Palutena, with just as much startup. As for Puffy Fluffy, Rest has almost no range, only has a hitbox for 1-2 frames, and is punishable on kill because it always blasts instead of Star/Screen KOing. As for Pound, good luck landing it with range like that. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 21:44, 6 November 2015 (EST)

Bump. Ganonmew, The Festive Evil Clone 15:41, 3 December 2015 (EST)

Dude I did read it. Just because I didn't respond don't expect an answer :P. Sorry. --BeepYou (talk) 16:08, 3 December 2015 (EST)

Hax's mains.

Hax has only been in one Smash 4 tournament and it took place close to the Wii U version's release. Character main sections on SmashWiki should only list mains for games that players take seriously. Hax only plays Melee (and maybe PM) seriously. Please do not relist SSB4 Falcon on the page or I will have to get someone else to revert it. --Falcon-X (talk) 17:17, 14 November 2015 (EST)