Talk:Top 100 Smash Bros. Players of All Time: Difference between revisions

:Effort and research doesn't help with the issue that it's still ultimately just one guy's opinion, and it's not like other personal rankings and the like out there didn't have people put any effort and research into them too. And it's not the wiki's place to be an encouragement for people to do their own independent work, we're just covering what's deemed relevant and sufficiently noteworthy to Smash in an encyclopedic-style, not to exist as an arbiter of validation. However, if evidence can be provided that the current Brawl community backs RetroSSBBRank, that can suffice for notability despite the unorthodox creation behind it. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 15:57, February 17, 2021 (EST)

::I'm not sure how to exactly demonstrate Brawl community backing outside of my personal connections who've studied Brawl agreeing with it. The "current Brawl community" is essentially just the Ultimate community since Brawl has been abandoned outside of a few scattered discords to my knowledge. The most work I could personally do to back it with sources would take the kind of time & research designed to create it, and I'm not sure who to reference outside of 16bit and maybe Zan. The ranking itself seems to be backed at least by ADHD and Poyo, since the latter contributed with fact checks and the former gave responses and interviews. Mew2King was aware of it as well and did not seem to be critical. Former PG Staff Tetra, a major figure in Japan translations for Smash 4 who knew a ton about the scene, also regularly responded.[[User:Barnard&#39;s Loop|Barnard&#39;s Loop]] ([[User talk:Barnard&#39;s Loop|talk]]) 16:39, February 18, 2021 (EST)

I mostly agree with the arguments for deletion. Hpwever, if this  individuals work is of the highest standard and fills significant information gaps then it may be of value. Also, I don't think we need to worry about opening the floodgates to these kind of articles provided we require these to be of the highest quality and to be filling significant information  gaps.  All that said to say, for it to be notable it should either be accepted by the broader smash community (this isnt) or be accepted by enough notable smash researchers/historians (I don't know about this one). So for now I remain leaning towards deletion, but I do think their is an argument for keeping it. [[User:Wiifitkid|Wiifitkid]] ([[User talk:Wiifitkid|talk]]) 16:19, February 17, 2021 (EST)

So consensus is clear here that the articles for this ranking and EagleRank have to go, however per Barnard's post, RetroSSBBRank may have standing if it can be shown that the current Brawl community backs it. I'll delete this and EagleRank's articles by the end of the day if no one can bring up a strong objection, but I'll give RetroSSBBRank some more time. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 16:27, February 18, 2021 (EST)

:Fine, but if another post Smash Ultimate release Smash Wii U PR does not pop up by 2028 and I'm still running EagleRank, I am going to reupload the article at that time. [[User:JFMV763|JFMV763]] ([[User talk:JFMV763|talk]]) 19:03, February 19, 2021 (EST)