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'''Vegetable''' ({{ja|野菜ひっこ抜き|Yasai Hikkonuki}}, ''Uproot Vegetables'') is [[Peach]] and | '''Vegetable''' ({{ja|野菜ひっこ抜き|Yasai Hikkonuki}}, ''Uproot Vegetables'') is [[Peach]] and {{SSBU|Daisy}}'s [[down special move]]. | ||
==Overview== | ==Overview== | ||
When used on the ground, the user will pluck a large turnip. These turnips function as [[item]]s and can be thrown at opponents, dealing more damage and knockback if thrown at close range | When used on the ground, the user will pluck a large turnip. These turnips function as [[item]]s and can be thrown at opponents, dealing more damage and knockback if thrown at close range and less damage and knockback if thrown at long range. There are eight different types of turnips which can be pulled, each with a different face. Some of the turnips are only different by aesthetics although some of them are stronger, dealing more [[damage]] and [[knockback]]. Each turnip has a different probability as to how likely they are to be pulled. As they are items, turnips can be thrown in multiple directions at multiple strengths, as the user can catch them again if they are still in the air after being thrown, although their opponents can also catch the turnips and use them to their own advantage. If a turnip hits an opponent, the user can pick up the turnip again, which aids in combos. The turnips can also only last for around 3.5 seconds in the air before they disappear, and regrabbing the turnips does not restart the timer. The user can also sometimes drop the turnips after they get hit. The move cannot be used in the air at all. | ||
As turnips are items, they can even be used as an effective [[out of shield]] option, with players being able to throw directly out of shield. In ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'' and especially in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'', players can also cancel their roll with a item throw (known as a [[glide toss]]) to move forward or backward and throw the turnip in any direction the player wants to. The player can also jump out of shield and press the grab button (or simply hold jump) without any direction to immediately Z-drop the vegetable. Depending on when the grab button is pressed, the turnip will either drop right in front of the player (if they hit the grab button immediately or just hold R) or right behind them (if they hesitate). The strength of this technique lies in the fact that the drop is instant and that the stun from the hit can potentially allow the player to follow up with multiple options (depending on the game), making it powerful to use from out of shield. While these techniques can be performed by any character with any light, throwable item, it is particularly powerful with the user, as she can pluck vegetables at almost any time. | As turnips are items, they can even be used as an effective [[out of shield]] option, with players being able to throw directly out of shield. In ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'' and especially in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'', players can also cancel their roll with a item throw (known as a [[glide toss]]) to move forward or backward and throw the turnip in any direction the player wants to. The player can also jump out of shield and press the grab button (or simply hold jump) without any direction to immediately Z-drop the vegetable. Depending on when the grab button is pressed, the turnip will either drop right in front of the player (if they hit the grab button immediately or just hold R) or right behind them (if they hesitate). The strength of this technique lies in the fact that the drop is instant and that the stun from the hit can potentially allow the player to follow up with multiple options (depending on the game), making it powerful to use from out of shield. While these techniques can be performed by any character with any light, throwable item, it is particularly powerful with the user, as she can pluck vegetables at almost any time. | ||
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Vegetable is overall a very useful tool for the user, as it gives her a powerful projectile which can be used in combos, and (depending on her item pull) can even lead into an early KO. [[Floating]] also allows the user to perform all of her aerial attacks even while holding an item, which can allow her to uniquely pressure foes in ways that other characters holding items simply cannot. | Vegetable is overall a very useful tool for the user, as it gives her a powerful projectile which can be used in combos, and (depending on her item pull) can even lead into an early KO. [[Floating]] also allows the user to perform all of her aerial attacks even while holding an item, which can allow her to uniquely pressure foes in ways that other characters holding items simply cannot. | ||
The most common type of turnips are smiley-face turnips. The user has a {{fractions|35|58}} chance of pulling these types of turnips, and their minimum damage is either 2% prior to ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'' or 5% in ''Ultimate'' (with them being able to deal up to around 7%-12% more, depending on the game and the type of item throw used). The user can also pull a bored turnip, a sleepy turnip, a shocked turnip, and a laughing turnip, which all function the same as the regular smiley turnip. The user has three more turnips which are all stronger. She has a winking turnip, which has a {{fractions|4|58}} chance of being pulled, and it deals more damage (6% minimum prior to ''Ultimate'', 10% in ''Ultimate''). She also also has a dot-eyed turnip, which has a {{fractions|1|58}} chance of being pulled, and it deal 12% minimum (16% in ''Ultimate''). Her most powerful turnip, however, is the stitch-faced turnip, which also has a {{fractions|1|58}} chance of being pulled, but deals a very high amount of damage (the amount depends on the game, but its minimum damage is roughly 23%–30%), which makes | The most common type of turnips are smiley-face turnips. The user has a {{fractions|35|58}} chance of pulling these types of turnips, and their minimum damage is either 2% prior to ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'' or 5% in ''Ultimate'' (with them being able to deal up to around 7%-12% more, depending on the game and the type of item throw used). The user can also pull a bored turnip, a sleepy turnip, a shocked turnip, and a laughing turnip, which all function the same as the regular smiley turnip. The user has three more turnips which are all stronger. She has a winking turnip, which has a {{fractions|4|58}} chance of being pulled, and it deals more damage (6% minimum prior to ''Ultimate'', 10% in ''Ultimate''). She also also has a dot-eyed turnip, which has a {{fractions|1|58}} chance of being pulled, and it deal 12% minimum (16% in ''Ultimate''). Her most powerful turnip, however, is the stitch-faced turnip, which also has a {{fractions|1|58}} chance of being pulled, but deals a very high amount of damage (the amount depends on the game, but its minimum damage is roughly 23%–30%), which makes them very powerful. This chart shows the probabilities and base damage of every turnip type. These are the probabilities within turnips pulled, and does not take into account the other items. | ||
This chart shows the probabilities and base damage of every turnip type. These are the probabilities within turnips pulled, and does not take into account the other items. | |||
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!Image!!Type!!Base damage!!Probability | !Image!!Type!!Base damage!!Probability | ||
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| [[File:Vegetable Face Smile SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert | | [[File:Vegetable Face Smile SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert]] || Smiley || 2% {{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}, 5% {{GameIcon|SSBU}} ||{{fractions|35|58}} | ||
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| [[File:Vegetable Face Bored SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert | | [[File:Vegetable Face Bored SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert]] || Bored || 2% {{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}, 5% {{GameIcon|SSBU}} ||{{fractions|6|58}} | ||
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| [[File:Vegetable Face Sleep SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert | | [[File:Vegetable Face Sleep SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert]] || Sleepy || 2% {{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}, 5% {{GameIcon|SSBU}} ||{{fractions|5|58}} | ||
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| [[File:Vegetable Face Shock SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert | | [[File:Vegetable Face Shock SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert]] || Shocked || 2% {{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}, 5% {{GameIcon|SSBU}} ||{{fractions|3|58}} | ||
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| [[File:Vegetable Face Laugh SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert | | [[File:Vegetable Face Laugh SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert]] || Laughing || 2% {{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}, 5% {{GameIcon|SSBU}} ||{{fractions|3|58}} | ||
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| [[File:Vegetable Face Wink SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert | | [[File:Vegetable Face Wink SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert]] || Wink || 6% {{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}, 10% {{GameIcon|SSBU}} ||{{fractions|4|58}} | ||
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| [[File:Vegetable Face Dot SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert | | [[File:Vegetable Face Dot SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert]] || Dot-eyes || 12% {{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}, 16% {{GameIcon|SSBU}} ||{{fractions|1|58}} | ||
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| [[File:Vegetable Face Stitch SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert | | [[File:Vegetable Face Stitch SSBM.png|64x64px|class=invert]] || Stitch-face || 30% {{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}, 23% {{GameIcon|SSB4}}, 24% {{GameIcon|SSBU}} ||{{fractions|1|58}} | ||
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A thrown Mr. Saturn deals incredible shield damage, especially in ''SSB4'' and ''Ultimate'', often breaking shields in one hit in said games. This can give the user a huge advantage if she manages to land a hit with one on a shielding opponent. | A thrown Mr. Saturn deals incredible shield damage, especially in ''SSB4'' and ''Ultimate'', often breaking shields in one hit in said games. This can give the user a huge advantage if she manages to land a hit with one on a shielding opponent. | ||
Should the user pull a Bob-omb using this move, it can be the strongest attack in her entire moveset if the opponent is caught in the explosion, being a very dangerous and highly volatile projectile item. A smash-thrown Bob-omb will deal extreme damage and knockback, KOing within low double digit numbers. As the user usually has difficulty landing her KO moves, the unpredictability of a Bob-omb pull can easily turn the tide of a match. However, | Should the user pull a Bob-omb using this move, it can be the strongest attack in her entire moveset if the opponent is caught in the explosion, being a very dangerous and highly volatile projectile item. A smash-thrown Bob-omb will deal extreme damage and knockback, KOing within low double digit numbers. As the user usually has difficulty landing her KO moves, the unpredictability of a Bob-omb pull can easily turn the tide of a match. However, Peach will receive damage and knockback herself if she is too close to the Bob-omb explosion, although this is not the case in ''Ultimate'', making Bob-ombs even safer and scarier. | ||
==In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''== | ==In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''== | ||
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Peach also has an increased chance for pulling out items, with the chance now being {{fractions|1|80}}. The probabilities for each individual item are {{fractions|1|160}} for Mr. Saturns, {{fractions|1|240}} for Bob-ombs and {{fractions|1|480}} for Beam Swords. While these chances are still very low, it still give Peach a higher chance to completely turn the game in her favor, even if that chance is only the slightest bit higher. | Peach also has an increased chance for pulling out items, with the chance now being {{fractions|1|80}}. The probabilities for each individual item are {{fractions|1|160}} for Mr. Saturns, {{fractions|1|240}} for Bob-ombs and {{fractions|1|480}} for Beam Swords. While these chances are still very low, it still give Peach a higher chance to completely turn the game in her favor, even if that chance is only the slightest bit higher. | ||
Overall, while it has reduced utility in some areas, Vegetable still remains an incredibly powerful tool in Peach's | Overall, while it has reduced utility in some areas, Vegetable still remains an incredibly powerful tool in Peach's due to the sheer versatility the move has. There are an even greater amount of ways in which the move can be used, and it is overall an even more effective projectile. | ||
===Turnip Free Pull=== | ===Turnip Free Pull=== | ||
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====Bone-Walking==== | ====Bone-Walking==== | ||
'''Bone-Walking''' (also known as '''Turnip Dash Pull''') is variant of the Turnip Free Pull discovered by {{Sm|Bone}}. To start the technique, Peach must be [[Fox-trotting]]. As quickly as possible after starting a fox-trot ([[IASA]] frame 22), pluck a turnip and then roll the stick a quarter-circle forward (↓ ↘ → ), like a [[Hadoken]]. Again, B-Sticking can be used to alleviated the tight timing. The length of the slide gradually decreasing the longer the player takes to complete the action. Bone-Walking has similar applications to Turnip Free Pull, | '''Bone-Walking''' (also known as '''Turnip Dash Pull''') is variant of the Turnip Free Pull discovered by {{Sm|Bone}}. To start the technique, Peach must be [[Fox-trotting]]. As quickly as possible after starting a fox-trot ([[IASA]] frame 22), pluck a turnip and then roll the stick a quarter-circle forward (↓ ↘ → ), like a [[Hadoken]]. Again, B-Sticking can be used to alleviated the tight timing. The length of the slide gradually decreasing the longer the player takes to complete the action. Bone-Walking has similar applications to Turnip Free Pull, accept Peach can now travel up to one-third the length of {{SSBB|Final Destination}}.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHppOHdDZ2s Bone-Walking example]</ref><ref>[http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=227854 Different methods of Bone-Walking]</ref> | ||
==In ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''== | ==In ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''== | ||
:{{Main|Peach (SSB4)/Down special/Default}} | :{{Main|Peach (SSB4)/Down special/Default}} | ||
[[File:Vegetable_SSB4.jpg|thumb|Peach plucking a vegetable in {{forwiiu}}.]] | [[File:Vegetable_SSB4.jpg|thumb|Peach plucking a vegetable in {{forwiiu}}.]] | ||
In ''Super Smash Bros. 4'', the move's sound effect was changed to the item pull sound effect heard in the international version of ''[[Super Mario Bros. 2]]''. The item pull sound effect is still heard if Peach pulls an item though. Besides its sound effect change, the move has been toned down in numerous ways. First of all, it takes Peach considerably longer to pull turnips (13 frames more), making it more punishable. Peach also lost her turnip edge cancel technique (in update [[1.0.4]]) as well as her turnip free pull and bone walking techniques, making it more committal to pull turnips. The move is also hindered by Peach's weaker item toss and her now-negligible glide toss, hindering Peach's item game. The turnips themselves are also heavier, like in ''Melee'', preventing them from being thrown as high, and the stitch face turnips deal 7% less damage, making them considerably weaker. The probability of pulling items has also slightly decreased to {{fractions|1|100}}, with Peach having a {{fractions|1|166}} chance of pulling a Mr. Saturn, a {{fractions|1|250}} chance of pulling a Bob-omb and a 0% chance of pulling Beam Swords, making the latter impossible to pull now | In ''Super Smash Bros. 4'', the move's sound effect was changed to the item pull sound effect heard in the international version of ''[[Super Mario Bros. 2]]''. The item pull sound effect is still heard if Peach pulls an item though. Besides its sound effect change, the move has been toned down in numerous ways. First of all, it takes Peach considerably longer to pull turnips (13 frames more), making it more punishable. Peach also lost her turnip edge cancel technique (in update [[1.0.4]]) as well as her turnip free pull and bone walking techniques, making it more committal to pull turnips. The move is also hindered by Peach's weaker item toss and her now-negligible glide toss, hindering Peach's item game. The turnips themselves are also heavier, like in ''Melee'', preventing them from being thrown as high, and the stitch face turnips deal 7% less damage, making them considerably weaker. The probability of pulling items has also slightly decreased to {{fractions|1|100}}, with Peach having a {{fractions|1|166}} chance of pulling a Mr. Saturn, a {{fractions|1|250}} chance of pulling a Bob-omb and a 0% chance of pulling Beam Swords, making the latter impossible to pull now. The chances of pulling Mr. Saturns and Bob-ombs are accurately stated within the game's tips section. In [[Home-Run Contest]], Peach now exclusively pulls out "dot-shaped eyes" Vegetables. | ||
Vegetable was more effective in the initial release of the game, as Peach not only retained her instant turnip pull technique by running off an edge, but she could also use her item toss with down special to cancel certain actions. Peach could throw turnips with down special to remove landing lag from her normal landing, aerials, air dodge and even her hitstun landing animation. This allowed her to land more safely and it notably benefitted her aerials, allowing her to combo out of her aerials in situations it normally would not be possible, as giving them better shield pressuring potential. Not only could Peach cancel her landing lag in multiple situations but she could also cancel tumble hitstun with a down special item toss. This was naturally quite powerful is it allowed her to avoid combos which would otherwise be guaranteed and it even improved her endurance as she could throw a turnip and then utilise momentum canceling to survive for longer. All of these techniques were removed in update 1.0.4 however and were never possible in any Wii U version. | Vegetable was more effective in the initial release of the game, as Peach not only retained her instant turnip pull technique by running off an edge, but she could also use her item toss with down special to cancel certain actions. Peach could throw turnips with down special to remove landing lag from her normal landing, aerials, air dodge and even her hitstun landing animation. This allowed her to land more safely and it notably benefitted her aerials, allowing her to combo out of her aerials in situations it normally would not be possible, as giving them better shield pressuring potential. Not only could Peach cancel her landing lag in multiple situations but she could also cancel tumble hitstun with a down special item toss. This was naturally quite powerful is it allowed her to avoid combos which would otherwise be guaranteed and it even improved her endurance as she could throw a turnip and then utilise momentum canceling to survive for longer. All of these techniques were removed in update 1.0.4 however and were never possible in any Wii U version. | ||
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The item probabilities are still the same as in the previous game, with Bob-ombs in particular being more effective since Peach can no longer get hit by her own Bob-omb explosion. | The item probabilities are still the same as in the previous game, with Bob-ombs in particular being more effective since Peach can no longer get hit by her own Bob-omb explosion. | ||
Additionally, with Daisy being added as Peach's [[Echo Fighter]], she also retains Vegetable as her down special, which functions identically to Peach's. This was not originally the case, however; in earlier versions of the game, Daisy's turnips had the same knockback values that Peach's had in the previous two games. This made Daisy's turnips weaker for edgeguarding | Additionally, with Daisy being added as Peach's [[Echo Fighter]], she also retains Vegetable as her down special, which functions identically to Peach's. This was not originally the case, however; in earlier versions of the game, Daisy's turnips had the same knockback values that Peach's had in the previous two games. This made Daisy's turnips weaker for edgeguarding, but it meant that they did have better combo potential at higher percentages. This was the only non-aesthetic difference between Daisy and Peach. It was removed in update {{SSBU|3.0.0}}, where the knockback values on Daisy's turnips were changed to match Peach's, suggesting that the previous difference may have been an oversight. | ||
Vegetable was more effective in earlier versions of the game, as Peach could pluck turnips faster and the turnips were more effective against shields. After update 3.0.0, turnips deal less shield damage much like many other projectiles. In update 3.1.0, the move was also made a few frames slower, decreasing the safety of pulling turnips. | Vegetable was more effective in earlier versions of the game, as Peach could pluck turnips faster and the turnips were more effective against shields. After update 3.0.0, turnips deal less shield damage much like many other projectiles. In update 3.1.0, the move was also made a few frames slower, decreasing the safety of pulling turnips. | ||
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==Customization== | ==Customization== | ||
Special Move customization was added in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''. These are the variations: | Special Move customization was added in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''. These are the variations: | ||
{{CustomSet|Peach|Down|name1=Vegetable|desc1 | {{CustomSet|Peach|Down|name1=Vegetable|desc1=Pluck a veggie if on the ground. The veggie's power depends on its mood.|name2=Light Veggie|desc2=Pluck a slow-flying veggie from the ground. Can only be used so many times in a row.|name3=Heavy Veggie|desc3=Pluck a heavy veggie that doesn't go far but can launch opponents.}} | ||
# '''Vegetable''': Default. | # '''Vegetable''': Default. | ||
# '''Light Veggie''': Pulls out a slow-flying vegetable, but can only be used twice in a row. The vegetables fly back towards Peach when they hit an enemy, allowing her to catch them and throw them again. {{Main|Peach (SSB4)/Down special/Custom 1}} | # '''Light Veggie''': Pulls out a slow-flying vegetable, but can only be used twice in a row. The vegetables fly back towards Peach when they hit an enemy, allowing her to catch them and throw them again. {{Main|Peach (SSB4)/Down special/Custom 1}} | ||
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**Isabelle's [[Lloid Trap]] cannot be planted off the ground, but it can be activated using the same input while she is airborne. | **Isabelle's [[Lloid Trap]] cannot be planted off the ground, but it can be activated using the same input while she is airborne. | ||
**[[Hand Slap]] and [[Pokémon Change]] used to share this trait, before gaining midair properties in ''Super Smash Bros. 4'' and ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'', respectively. | **[[Hand Slap]] and [[Pokémon Change]] used to share this trait, before gaining midair properties in ''Super Smash Bros. 4'' and ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'', respectively. | ||
==References== | ==References== | ||
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{{Multiple Special Moves|Peach|Daisy}} | {{Multiple Special Moves|Peach|Daisy}} | ||
[[Category:Items]] | [[Category:Items]] | ||
[[Category:Items (SSBM)]] | [[Category:Items (SSBM)]] | ||