Talk:Shy Guy

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Source for his supposed inclusion in Melee please. --{{SUBST:User:Wiismartey/sig}} 18:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Split[edit]

I oppose this split. There's not much that could be moved from this page if a split takes place. Berrenta (talk) 16:25, 27 October 2014 (EDT)

I support the split. Fly Guys appear as separate enemies in Smash Run. PikaSamus (talk) PikaSamus 16:29, 27 October 2014 (EDT)

Oppose Littlesquirtle, an average user who doesn't like his signature. (talk) 16:39, 27 October 2014 (EDT)

Support, they're separate enemies from separate universes. Laikue (talk|contribs) 13:32, 30 October 2014 (EDT)

Support. They're completely different enemies, this is ridiculous. ---Previously unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 13:35, 30 October 2014 (EDT)

@Berrenta: It would be expanded with an origin section, actual information about the enemy, the trophy description, and all that stuff. PikaSamus (talk) PikaSamus 11:06, 31 October 2014 (EDT)

Support. They're separate enemies, Koopa Troopa and Koopa Paratroopa have separate page despite being in the same universe, then, What do you expect ?. Jf811 (talk) 01:45, 2 November 2014 (EDT)

Support, they are different enemies and are considered to be from different universes. --SnorlaxMonster 11:19, 16 November 2014 (EST)

should this be split now? ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 19:36, 27 November 2014 (EST)

6 supports (including mine right now), 2 opposes (though one oppose has no reason, it's an oppose nonetheless). So yeah, I'd split it. Rtzxy Image for my signature (and before you say it's too large, I'm going to resize it as [[|20px]]. Reflect! 19:39, 27 November 2014 (EST)

Mario or Yoshi[edit]

It was categorized as a Mario trophy in Smash 4, even though Smash Bros says it’s from the Yoshi universe. 174.55.24.64 00:13, June 19, 2022 (EDT)

Bump because no one replied to this somehow. 174.55.24.64 19:09, June 26, 2022 (EDT)
Ok... what is the issue? They debuted in a Mario game and appear in several more. Some variants, like Fly Guys, debuted in Yoshi games and appear in several more. --CanvasK (talk) 20:36, June 26, 2022 (EDT)
see what I said above, it was also classified as a Mario spirit in Smash Ultimate. 174.55.24.64 20:47, June 26, 2022 (EDT)
Again, what is the issue? The article is classed as both because it appears or its variants appear in both series. --CanvasK (talk) 20:49, June 26, 2022 (EDT)
Just to clarify: The only time the vanilla Shy Guy was ever counted under the Yoshi series was its Yoshi's Story sticker in Brawl. All other instances are either Fly Guy/Propeller Shy Guy or some other variant. JacketTerraSig1.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinJacketTerraSig2.png 20:53, June 26, 2022 (EDT)

Origin artwork[edit]

Continuing off from File talk:Porygon2-Origin.png, Shy Guy is... rather difficult to find good origin artwork for, judging from the galleries on Super Mario Wiki. The main red Shy Guy is fine; it has plenty of pre-SSBU artwork to choose from. But as for the other colors if we want to fully showcase their Smash Run origins? They don't have any good artwork predating their Smash Run appearances in SSB4.

  • Green: In SSB4, they have brown shoes. Their pre-SSB4 artwork shows them with red (Yoshi's Story) or blue (Yoshi Topsy-Turvy) shoes.
  • Light Blue: They don't have any pre-SSB4 artwork.
  • Yellow: In SSB4, they have green shoes. Their pre-SSB4 artwork only shows them with blue shoes.

Therefore, if we stick exclusively to pre-SSB4 images, then we're stuck using small sprites and in-game screenshots if we want to accurately portray these Shy Guy variants as seen in Smash Run. This highlights an oversight in the policy precluding post-Smash origin images. If Mario Kart Tour offers the best quality and clearest artwork for these designs that are unchanged from their pre-SSB4 games, then why shouldn't we use it?

The alternative, of course, is that we don't include origin images for the other Shy Guy colors. I'd rather that not be the case, since these other Shy Guy color origin images do showcase elements featured in Smash that a single artwork of a red Shy Guy cannot cover by itself. --PeabodySam (talk) 12:35, July 30, 2023 (EDT)