Editing Talk:Melee: SD Remix

Hopefully someone who understands technical data better than me can maybe fix what I put or make it sound better, or just add more in general since I left parts I didn't understand how to word out. For reference, click [http://uglook.net/writing/sdremix/ here] if you need the change list. [[User:F0rZ3r0F0r|F0rZ3r0F0r]] 14:59, 12 April 2015 (EDT)

== Wait a minute... ==

I thought PM was the only gameplay hack we were planning on covering? This does not just apply here, what about the page on [[Brawl-]], [[Brawl+]], [[20XX_Melee_Training_Hack_Pack]], etc? Is it alright to cover it as long as we do not make pages for individual characters, stages, etc? And where is the line here? Do we cover the multiple fan-made hacks, or just the popular ones?  [[File:SKSig.png|16px]] [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color: #008833;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 15:05, 12 April 2015 (EDT)
:Single pages on major hacks are acceptable. Only PM got more than that and that required a lengthy voting process. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:22, 12 April 2015 (EDT)

== Technical changelogs? ==

Would it be too much to create technical changelogs for characters like the ones in Smash 4 patch notes? If not, where should we put them? [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 13:04, 29 June 2016 (EDT)
:I see no reason to not add them, besides the fact that it could be tedious  [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 14:13, 29 June 2016 (EDT)
::Bump. I did Captain Falcon as a sort of example. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 21:37, 1 July 2016 (EDT)

== SD Remix's buffs have "sparked controversy" ==

I can't express my thoughts in an edit summary, so I'll just put it here.

It's unfair and conflicting to say that SD Remix has low recognition, but also to say that its buffs spark significant controversy that warrants mentioning. This is a clear example of recency bias that has arose from MagicScrumpy's videos. Scrumpy is really the only relevant person who has spoken out against SD Remix, and since his "Making [X] Viable" series took up that topic, people have been parroting his opinions and basically treating SD Remix as Project M, which is an inaccurate assumption to make (and in my opinion is extremely unfair to the SD Remix devs whose only real recognition now is that "Scrumpy said they can't balance"). So yeah, that doesn't belong on the page. Long explanation for a small change in the page, but felt like it was warranted. <b>-- [[File:Yellow sig.png|16px]] [[User:Yellow|<span style="color:#000;text-shadow: 1px 2px 3px #CCCC00;">Yellow</span>]] [[User talk:Yellow|<span style="color:#006400;text-shadow: 1px 2px 3px #9ACD32;">of the Grove</span>]]</b> 20:46, 11 September 2016 (EDT)

:Agreed. It's basically speaking from one perspective instead of multiple perspectives. Sure, some people don't like the changes they made, but it's not like Nintendo is even going to follow them anyway, as in the case of the other gameplay modifications. Also to add to the Scrumpy statement: They praise his opinions as power...? Wow. That's...kind of awkward. Also like the rewording you did on the article. --[[User:HillustrationM|HillustrationM]] ([[User talk:HillustrationM|talk]]) 06:56, 22 September 2016 (EDT)

== ...So do we really need to have changelogs for every character for this? ==

SD Remix is about dead and this information is next to useless and I for one find it to be an eyesore. Anyone else? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 22:40, 9 December 2016 (EST)
:Axe it, imo. We shouldn't be in the business of this kind of changelog for hacks/mods. (I still plan on re-introducing a proposal to reduce our PM coverage at some point.) [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:07, 10 December 2016 (EST)
:I'd say put it on a subpage. There are still people who would like to know what exactly changed in the mod, even if it doesn't have a big following. I agree that having it on the main page is a bit much at this point. <b>-- [[File:Yellow sig.png|16px]] [[User:Yellow|<span style="color:#000;text-shadow: 1px 2px 3px #CCCC00;">Yellow</span>]] [[User talk:Yellow|<span style="color:#006400;text-shadow: 1px 2px 3px #9ACD32;">of the Grove</span>]]</b> 18:01, 10 December 2016 (EST)
::Unless someone else has a comment, this is probably going to get axed in the near future. Timson, moving to a subpage does not solve the eyesore problem, it just sort of hides it away a bit. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 22:00, 19 December 2016 (EST)

== Good to unlock this? ==
It's been nearly almost two years since the page was reverted back and forth to put back the character changelogs. I don't think it can hurt to unlock it. [[User:F0rZ3r0F0r|F0rZ3r0F0r]] ([[User talk:F0rZ3r0F0r|talk]]) 23:47, 4 March 2019 (EST)
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