Editing Talk:List of updates (SSB4-3DS)/1.0.4 changelog

==Update List==
There are a lot of listed differences that basically say that attacks deal 1% more damage than before. We need verify if this is correct; I doubt that many of the characters listed have only this change if they actually changed. [[User:LimitCrown|LimitCrown]] ([[User talk:LimitCrown|talk]]) 18:02, 18 November 2014 (EST)

== Pac-Man ==

Does any of His Attacks Have Changed?
I Tried with His Neutral Attack. Still Deals 9% Damage. [[User:Igor The Mii|Igor the Mii]] ([[User talk:Igor The Mii|talk]]) 14:26, 19 November 2014 (EST)

== Dr. Mario changes ==

Just wanted to see if anyone else had noticed these changes before putting it on the page.

*{{buff|Forward smash now deals 19% base damage instead of 15%.}}
*{{buff|Pummel does 3.5% damage instead of 2%.}}
*{{nerf|[[Megavitamin]] does 4-5% damage as opposed to 5-6%.}}
*{{nerf|Down smash now does 11% base damage instead of 13%.}}

Thanks for taking a look! [[Special:Contributions/72.152.70.243|72.152.70.243]] 16:32, 19 November 2014 (EST)
:My Megavitamins still do 5-6%, and I'm in the new version. The other values are correct, but I don't remember what they were in 1.0.3 {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 16:38, 19 November 2014 (EST)
:The second hit of the down smash attack dealt 11% damage of the first hit and 13% damage for the second hit. The sourspot of the forward smash deals 15% damage while the sweetspot deals 19%. The Megavitamins deal damage depending on the distance. [[User:LimitCrown|LimitCrown]] ([[User talk:LimitCrown|talk]]) 17:03, 19 November 2014 (EST)
::Oh, I see. Didn't know about those properties (except the Megavitamins', but I seem to be the only one experiencing the lowered damage.). Thanks!
EDIT: What about the pummel? [[Special:Contributions/72.152.70.243|72.152.70.243]] 20:27, 19 November 2014 (EST)
:The pummel deals the same amount of damage as it did before which is 3.5%. [[User:LimitCrown|LimitCrown]] ([[User talk:LimitCrown|talk]]) 20:44, 19 November 2014 (EST)

== Old and new states ==

Why do we have to list them on the page? We don't do it for the Changes from Brawl section on the character pages. Is the situation any different here? [[Special:Contributions/168.9.128.3|168.9.128.3]] 09:07, 20 November 2014 (EST)
:Ideally, the "changes from previous game" lists would also list the previous states. It's just much more important here because there's no corresponding article for the previous game to compare with. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Awesome 10:17, 20 November 2014 (EST)

== DACUS: Removed or not? ==

I did an edit to [[Dash attack canceled up smash|this page]] stating that DACUS cannot be performed as of SSB3DS ver. 1.0.4 and somebody reverted it because apparently "DACUS can still be done". Can someone confirm this and, if true, edit either the update list or the DACUS article accordingly?

-[[User:Arikk|Arikk]] ([[User talk:Arikk|talk]]) 12:28, 20 November 2014 (EST)
:I think some people are still confused whether "interrupting a dash attack with an up smash" is the same as "the technique known as DACUS". [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Undirigible 12:32, 20 November 2014 (EST)

== Clarification ==

*{{change|[[Copy ability|Copy abilities]] of neutral specials altered by this patch changed to match.}}

What does this specifically mean? Because, to my understanding, it means Kirby can copy alternate specials (which was said to not be the case). [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 13:15, 20 November 2014 (EST)
:It means that if a neutral special was altered in the update, Kirby follows suit.{{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 13:17, 20 November 2014 (EST)
::Oooooohhh. Ok. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 13:18, 20 November 2014 (EST)
:::I already reworded it to be more clear once, but apparently that wasn't enough. I'll try that again. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 13:35, 20 November 2014 (EST)

== Master Core Alpha? ==

I've discovered a resource that compares raw character data from 0.0.3 to 0.0.4 called Master Core. A few additional differences are listed there. Any chance we could look for all of them and have someone interpret the code? Thanks. http://opensa.dantarion.com/s4/mastercore2/ [[Special:Contributions/50.180.249.132|50.180.249.132]] 12:47, 25 December 2014 (EST)
:Unless I'm mistaken, we already have stuff from that on the page. I mean, both links on the bottom of the page have all the crap we need. [[File:AidanzapunkSig.jpg]][[User:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''BlueStreak'''</span>]] [[User talk:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''Speeds By'''</span>]] 12:53, 25 December 2014 (EST)
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