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This was the 1st smash 64 tier list, created by the smash 64 community on Gamefaqs. Tier list B and C are used in Low Tier tournaments.
This was the 1st smash 64 tier list, created by the smash 64 community on Gamefaqs. Tier list B and C are used in Low Tier tournaments.


S
<div style="width: 100%;"><div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''S'''
#Pikachu
* Pikachu
#Kirby
* Kirby
#Ness
* Ness</div>
A
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''A'''
#Fox
* Fox
#Captain Falcon
* Captain Falcon
#Jigglypuff
* Jigglypuff</div>
B
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''B'''
#Mario
* Mario
#Yoshi
* Yoshi
#Donkey Kong
* Donkey Kong</div>
C
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''C'''
#Luigi
* Luigi
#Samus
* Samus
#Link
* Link</div></div>
 
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===Second Tier List===
===Second Tier List===
This is the 2nd and current version of the ''Super Smash Bros.'' tier list, created by the smash 64 community on [[Smashboards]]. Tier List B and C are used in low tier tournaments.
This is the 2nd and current version of the ''Super Smash Bros.'' tier list, created by the smash 64 community on [[Smashboards]]. Tier List B and C are used in low tier tournaments.


S
<div style="width: 100%;"><div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''S'''
#Pikachu
* Pikachu
#Fox
* Fox</div>
A
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''A'''
#Kirby
* Kirby
#Captain Falcon
* Captain Falcon
#Mario
* Mario</div>
B
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''B'''
#Yoshi
* Yoshi
#Donkey Kong
* Donkey Kong
#Jigglypuff
* Jigglypuff
#Ness
* Ness</div>
C
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''C'''
#Luigi
* Luigi
#Link
* Link
#Samus
* Samus</div></div>
 
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===The differences in the tier list and the general reasons why they are where they are in their respected tier===
===The differences in the tier list and the general reasons why they are where they are in their respected tier===
*Pikachu. No Change. Heavy tournament representation
*Pikachu. No Change. Heavy tournament representation

Revision as of 23:38, February 28, 2010

The Smash Back Room tier list has changed many times since its inception. Previous versions of the list are as follows. In later tier lists, characters are broadly ranked by their tier, and further ranked by the order in which characters are listed within the tier list. For instance, Falco is ranked above Samus in the fourth Melee tier list. Earlier tier lists use numerical rankings, and characters with the same numerical value are listed alphabetically.

Super Smash Bros.

First Tier List

This was the 1st smash 64 tier list, created by the smash 64 community on Gamefaqs. Tier list B and C are used in Low Tier tournaments.

S
  • Pikachu
  • Kirby
  • Ness
A
  • Fox
  • Captain Falcon
  • Jigglypuff
B
  • Mario
  • Yoshi
  • Donkey Kong
C
  • Luigi
  • Samus
  • Link


Second Tier List

This is the 2nd and current version of the Super Smash Bros. tier list, created by the smash 64 community on Smashboards. Tier List B and C are used in low tier tournaments.

S
  • Pikachu
  • Fox
A
  • Kirby
  • Captain Falcon
  • Mario
B
  • Yoshi
  • Donkey Kong
  • Jigglypuff
  • Ness
C
  • Luigi
  • Link
  • Samus


The differences in the tier list and the general reasons why they are where they are in their respected tier

  • Pikachu. No Change. Heavy tournament representation
  • Kirby Minus 1. Due to Fox gaining ground
  • Ness Minus 6. Due to recovery/spacing issues
  • Fox Plus 2. Due to Fox gaining new advanced techniques, great approach
  • Captain Falcon Plus 1. A better pikachu matchup. Better spacing
  • Jigglypuff Minus 2. Too many exploitable matchups, a "glass cannon"
  • Mario Plus 2. A better matchup vs Fox, Kirby, and Ness than before, Up air combos.
  • Yoshi Plus 2. Better matchups, people have developed quicker DJC's.
  • Donkey Kong Plus 2. The Jigglypuff matchup, Better grab and down b usage
  • Luigi No Change. Gained ground due to some better matchups, loses ground due to bad short hop.
  • Samus Minus 1. Bad approach and short hop, low combos.
  • Link Plus 1. Better projectile use.

Melee

First tier list (October 8, 2002)

Though this was the first tier list, Smash World Forums was rife with discussion about tiers long before the Melee Back Room released its "MBR Tier Averages." The term "F/F/S" (short for "Falco, Fox and Sheik") was popular as a quick reference to Melee's top tier. Members on Smashboards, perhaps in backlash against novice sentiment towards Roy and Link, generally disdained those characters, and generally favored the game's fastest characters.

Members on Smashboards largely contested this tier list's placement of Mewtwo, which they felt to be too low. Many Smashboarders considered Mewtwo a low or even middle tier character and were bothered that it, despite its great recovery and powerful throws, was placed at the bottom of bottom tier, where most people believed Bowser belonged.

Second tier list (December 19, 2002)

For the second tier list, the Melee Back Room not only averaged the votes for every character to determine a tier list, but also calculated the mode of characters' placements.

Mean

  • 2.2: Sheik
  • 2.3: Fox
  • 3.9: Falco
  • 4.4: Peach
  • 4.7: Marth
  • 8.5: Mario
  • 8.8: Dr. Mario
  • 9.6: Samus
  • 10.0: Luigi
  • 11.0: Ganondorf and Jigglypuff
  • 13.0: Captain Falcon and Ice Climbers
  • 15.0: Zelda, Ness and Link
  • 16.0: Pikachu
  • 17.0: Yoshi and Young Link
  • 20.0: Roy and Donkey Kong
  • 21.0: Mr. Game and Watch, Kirby and Bowser
  • 23.0: Mewtwo
  • 24.0: Pichu

Mode

  • 1: Sheik
  • 2: Fox
  • 3: Falco
  • 4: Peach
  • 5: Marth, Zelda
  • 6: Samus
  • 7: Ganondorf
  • 9: Dr. Mario
  • 10: Jigglypuff, Mario
  • 11: C.Falcon
  • 12: Luigi
  • 13: Ice Climbers
  • 14: Link
  • 15: Young Link
  • 16: Ness
  • 18: Yoshi
  • 20: Pikachu
  • 22: Bowser
  • 23: Donkey Kong, Roy
  • 24: Kirby, Mewtwo
  • 25: Pichu
  • 26: Mr. Game and Watch


Third tier list (June 23, 2003)

Top Tier
  • Sheik
  • Fox
  • Falco
  • Marth
  • Peach
Upper Tier
  • Mario
  • Dr. Mario
  • Luigi
  • Samus
  • Jigglypuff
  • Captain Falcon
  • Ganondorf
Middle Tier
  • Ice Climbers
  • Yoshi
  • Ness
  • Pikachu
  • Roy
  • Link
  • Young Link
  • Zelda
  • Donkey Kong
Bottom Tier
  • Mr. Game & Watch
  • Kirby
  • Mewtwo
  • Pichu
  • Bowser


This tier list was released soon after Ken Hoang won Tournament Go 4. Before Ken, Marth strategy largely encompassed rolling and C-stick smashing symptomatic of low-level play today, but Ken introduced to the community the uses of dash-dancing, chain throwing and aerial attacks, all techniques that largely improved Marth's metagame and moved him to top tier for years to come.

This is the first tier list that officially ranks characters into tiers.

Fourth tier list (July 1, 2003)

Top Tier
  • Sheik
  • Fox
  • Marth
  • Peach
Upper Tier
  • Falco
  • Samus
  • Mario
  • Dr. Mario
  • Jigglypuff
  • Ganondorf
  • Captain Falcon
  • Luigi
Middle Tier
  • Pikachu
  • Yoshi
  • Ice Climbers
  • Zelda
  • Ness
  • Link
  • Young Link
  • Roy
Low Tier
  • Donkey Kong
  • Mr. Game & Watch
  • Kirby
Bottom Tier
  • Mewtwo
  • Pichu
  • Bowser


Fifth tier list (September 29, 2003)

Top Tier
  • Sheik
  • Marth
Upper Tier
  • Fox
  • Peach
  • Falco
High Tier
  • Samus
  • Captain Falcon
  • Ganondorf
  • Mario
  • Dr. Mario
  • Jigglypuff
  • Luigi
Middle Tier
  • Yoshi
  • Link
  • Roy
  • Pikachu
  • Young Link
  • Ice Climbers
  • Zelda
Low Tier
  • Ness
  • Kirby
  • Donkey Kong
  • Mewtwo
Bottom Tier
  • Mr. Game & Watch
  • Pichu
  • Bowser


Sixth tier list (April Fools: March 31, 2004)

Top Tier
  • Sheik
  • Jigglypuff
Upper Tier
  • Fox
  • Captain Falcon
  • Falco
  • Link
High Tier
  • Marth
  • Roy
  • Peach
  • Luigi
  • Ice Climbers
Middle Tier
  • Ganondorf
  • Samus
  • Mewtwo
  • Ness
  • Mario
  • Dr. Mario
Low Tier
  • Young Link
  • Kirby
  • Pikachu
  • Mr. Game & Watch
  • Donkey Kong
Bottom Tier
  • Zelda
  • Pichu
  • Bowser


This tier list doubled as an April Fools joke and a lesson to the community to not blindly swallow the Melee Back Room tier list as the truth. Though most people suspected this tier list was a hoax, it set a precedent to criticizing the tier list that had not existed before.

To "defend" this hoax during the two tumultuous days it was the official tier list, Melee Back Room members argued that Marth was too slow to remain in the top two tiers, that Link had untapped aerial prowess, and that Jigglypuff, through speed and the Wall of Pain, ruled the air to the point of domination.

The Melee Back Room forgot to include Yoshi in this tier list; once people realized he was missing, the MBR placed him in middle tier, between Ness and Mario.

Sixth tier list (April 2, 2004)

Top Tier
  • Sheik
  • Fox
  • Marth
Upper Tier
  • Falco
  • Peach
  • Captain Falcon
  • Samus
  • Jigglypuff
High Tier
  • Ganondorf
  • Mario
  • Dr. Mario
  • Luigi
Middle Tier
  • Link
  • Pikachu
  • Ice Climbers
  • Roy
  • Zelda
  • Young Link
  • Yoshi
Low Tier
  • Ness
  • Donkey Kong
  • Kirby
  • Mr. Game & Watch
  • Mewtwo
Bottom Tier
  • Bowser
  • Pichu


Seventh tier list (March 19, 2005)

Top Tier
  • Sheik
  • Fox
  • Marth
Upper Tier
  • Peach
  • Falco
  • Captain Falcon
  • Samus
High Tier
  • Jigglypuff
  • Dr. Mario
  • Ganondorf
  • Mario
  • Ice Climbers
Middle Tier
  • Luigi
  • Link
  • Roy
  • Donkey Kong
  • Pikachu
  • Zelda
Low Tier
  • Ness
  • Young Link
  • Yoshi
  • Kirby
  • Mr. Game & Watch
  • Bowser
Bottom Tier
  • Mewtwo
  • Pichu


Eighth tier list (July 8, 2006)

Top Tier
  • Fox
  • Falco
High Tier
  • Sheik
  • Marth
  • Peach
Middle Tier
  • Captain Falcon
  • Ice Climbers
  • Samus
  • Dr. Mario
  • Jigglypuff
  • Mario
  • Ganondorf
Low Tier
  • Link
  • Luigi
  • Donkey Kong
  • Roy
  • Young Link
  • Pikachu
Bottom Tier
  • Yoshi
  • Zelda
  • Mr. Game & Watch
  • Ness
  • Bowser
  • Kirby
  • Pichu
  • Mewtwo


The names of these tiers were originally called God Tier, Top Tier, High Tier, Middle Tier, and Low Tier; these names were changed to the ones shown above on July 10th, two days after the tier list was released.

This tier list marks the first time Sheik was not in top tier, and contains the biggest bottom tier of any tier list thus far. The balance of the tier list was a point of contention amongst many Smashers, who felt that it was too bottom-heavy and that the lower tiers should themselves be split, or the high tiers merged (particularly the top two).

Ninth tier list (October 14, 2008)

This is the current and final tier list. For the first time since June 2003, the Smash Back Room published each character's numerical scores.

Top Tier
High Tier
Middle Tier
Low Tier
Bottom Tier


Brawl

First Tier List (September 1, 2008)

Top Tier High Tier Middle Tier Low Tier
Meta Knight Marth Toon Link Lucas
Snake Wario Olimar Ness
King Dedede Lucario Fox Mario
Mr. Game and Watch Donkey Kong Zelda Pokemon Trainer
Falco Diddy Kong Zero Suit Samus Samus
R.O.B. Pikachu Bowser Yoshi
Ice Climbers Luigi Sonic
Kirby Peach Jigglypuff
Pit Ike Ganondorf
Wolf Sheik Link
Captain Falcon

While many players wanted to have a tier list a month or 2 after Brawl's release, the SBR decided (and with good reason) to wait at least a couple of months before making the first tier list. The idea was that making a tier list too early would result in it becoming quickly outdated, forcing the SBR to make a second one. The SBR made the correct decision. Players' perception of the tier list changed dramatically between the game's release and September. The most noticeable fluctuation was Snake's placing, who was first about mid tier, then sky rocketed to the #1 spot above Metaknight. Snake was considered the best character in the game for quite a while, this opinion being backed up by tournaments where Snake took almost all the top spots (in one case, the top 5 placings were all Snake). It wasn't until around when Mew2king started dominating with Metaknight that players realized Metaknight was better.

Second Tier List (January 5, 2009)

SS Tier S Tier A Tier B Tier C Tier D Tier E Tier F Tier G Tier

1. Meta Knight (15.00)

2. Snake (13.91)

3. Falco (13.03)
4. King Dedede (12.94)
5. Mr. Game & Watch (12.50)
6. Marth (12.09)
7. Diddy Kong (11.94)

8. Wario (11.47)
9. R.O.B. (11.38)
10-11. Lucario (10.94)
10-11. Olimar (10.94)

12. Pikachu (10.34)
13. Kirby (10.16)
14. Donkey Kong (10.06)
15. Ice Climbers (9.59)

16. Zero Suit Samus (8.88)
17. Toon Link (8.47)
18. Pit (8.44)
19. Peach (8.16)
20. Wolf (7.91)

21. Luigi (7.41)
22. Zelda (7.03)
23. Bowser (6.91)
24. Fox (6.66)
25. Sheik (6.44)
26. Ike (5.91)

27. Mario (4.56)
28. Lucas (4.50)
29. Ness (4.50)
30. Samus (4.41)
31. Sonic (4.16)
32. Pokémon Trainer (3.94)
33. Yoshi (3.66)

34. Link (2.28)
35. Jigglypuff (2.03)
36. Ganondorf (1.88)
37. Captain Falcon (1.63)

By this time no player doubted Metaknight's placing in the old tier list. In many players' opinions, Metaknight wasn't just better than every other character, but better by a noticeable gap. Metaknight was considered so good that it caused a huge debate on whether Metaknight should be allowed in tournaments. After many heated discussions, the SBR decided by vote that Metaknight should be left alone and no one should be banned.

Snake was also elevated above other characters to a similar degree, though not to the point of being considered banned. This resulted in both of these characters having their own tier list.

Diddy Kong received a huge bump up the tier list after NinjaLink successfully beat Mew2king by abusing Diddy's bananas to a level not seen before. Because landing on a banana leaves your character open to any hit or grab, Diddy is able to control the stage by placing and moving bananas around as needed.

Third Tier List (June 4, 2009)

S-Tier A-Tier B-Tier C-Tier D-Tier E-Tier F-Tier
Metaknight Marth Lucario Peach Bowser Lucas Jigglypuff
Snake Mr. Game & Watch Zero Suit Samus Luigi Zelda Mario Captain Falcon
Wario Pikachu Toon Link Fox Pokemon Trainer Ness Link
Falco Olimar Pit Wolf Ike Yoshi Ganondorf
Diddy Kong Ice Climbers Donkey Kong Sonic Samus
King Dedede R.O.B. Sheik
Kirby

The first tier list to not have Captain Falcon last on the list. Instead, Ganondorf is last because of his slow attacks, bad recovery, and lack of mobility. In this list, Wario and Sonic made a large jump. Wario's change is due to the newly found usefulness of his great air mobility, coupled with great recovery and heavy weight, making him a very defensive character that is hard to KO. While most of the community perceived Sonic as a bad character, dedicated mains continued to defy the tier list of Jan 1, 2009 by placing high in tourneys. In this tier list, their efforts were finally recognized.

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