Roy (SSBM)

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Roy
in Super Smash Bros. Melee
Roy
FireEmblemSymbol.svg
Universe Fire Emblem
Other Smash Bros. appearance in SSB4

Availability Unlockable
Tier F (20)
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While Roy's moves are well balanced, he's a little on the slow side, and doesn't excel at midair combat.
—Description from Roy's trophy.

Roy (ロイ, Roy) is a secret character in Super Smash Bros. Melee. Roy is voiced by Jun Fukuyama. He is a clone of Marth, differentiated primarily by his sweetspots being located near the center of his blade rather than the tip.

Roy currently ranks 20th on the Melee tier list, in the F tier. Roy's advantages include an above average approach due to having one of the best SHFFLs in the game, as well as a good grab game, and among the best reaches in the game thanks to his sword. However, Roy's flaws are significant, which include having poor flexibility in his combo game, attacks that are difficult to properly land, generally possessing significantly laggy attacks, having few moves that can KO reliably and only one of which (forward smash) that is an adequate finisher, and one of the worst recoveries in the game while being a light character that is heavily susceptible to combos; as a result, Roy has significant KOing problems while being easy to KO himself. These flaws overpower Roy's strengths, leading to numerous matchups hard countering him, especially against those who are higher ranked than him on many tier lists.

How to Unlock[edit]

To unlock Roy, the player must complete either Classic or Adventure Mode as Marth without using a continue, or play 900 VS. matches. Roy is fought on the Temple stage, with the track "Fire Emblem" playing.

Attributes[edit]

Overall, Roy does not fall into any specific fighter archetype; while having a slew of powerful attacks, Roy himself is rather nimble, with a relatively fast dash, a good dash-dance and a very high falling speed. However, Roy has a relatively below average air speed, similarly to Marth. A combination of a fast falling speed and a low traction gives Roy a somewhat long wavedash (sixth longest in the game).

Among Roy's primary strengths is the overall power in most of his ground-based attacks. Roy's forward smash is a fast attack and is his primary KO move. Additionally, Roy has a powerful but laggy down smash and an up smash with multi-hit properties, decent knockback, and, when struck at the tip, spike properties, though the lattermost property is rather situational. Roy's specials are also powerful; his Flare Blade is a deadly edgeguard tactic, almost guaranteeing a one-hit KO if fully or almost fully charged. His Double-Edge Dance naturally combos into itself and can act as a reliable finisher, and his Counter scales in power against other attacks. Against smash attacks, Roy's Counter can quickly become his most powerful move; its pseudo-semi-spike properties also makes it useful when the opponent's back is to the ledge.

Roy also has a decent ground-based approach. Roy has a disjointed hitbox with his Sword of Seals, as well as a fast dashing speed. Additionally, a combination of low-lag, fast aerials and a very high falling speed gives Roy a useful SHFFL. Roy's SHFFL is among the best in the game due to its extreme speed, and it is faster and stronger than Marth's. Roy's down tilt also sends opponents directly upward, with decent hitstun, giving Roy a very good method to start combos. Additionally, while Roy's wavedash is not as long as Marth's, it is still one of Roy's most reliable approach options, aided by his disjointed hitbox (giving him good wavesmashing abilities) and long grab range. As a result of his approach, Roy's reach is one of the best in Melee, with only Marth having a superior reach.

Roy's grab game is also admirable. Roy has the second highest grab range among characters who do not have disjointed grabs (such as Link), behind only Marth in this regard. His throws can easily chain into each other, as their low knockback and Roy's high grab range allow him to decently tech-chase and chain grab. His up throw is also the second strongest in the game and can chain grab other fastfallers. Roy's grab game comprises a good deal of his edgeguard game. A common tactic is to force opponents off the stage with a down or forward throw and immediately intercept their recovery with a forward smash or Flare Blade.

However, Roy's primary flaw is the sweetspot placement of his disjointed hitboxes. Unlike Marth, who can safely attack opponents from a distance, Roy must go into close proximity with the opponent to deliver strong damage and knockback, as the sweetspot on his sword is closer to the hilt than the tip. While attacks can become incredibly powerful at this close of a range, this causes Roy to become very vulnerable, especially against characters with powerful close range attacks or grabs, such as Fox, Falco or Mewtwo. While Counter can potentially mitigate against physical attacks, it requires particularly good reads from the player to avoid punishment, and the attack is completely ineffective against grabs. Roy's sourspot is also weaker compared to Marth's; while Marth still has some KOing potential in his sourspotted attacks, Roy's sourspotted attacks have very poor knockback and damage in comparison. As a result of this very close sweetspot, Roy himself lacks a particularly reliable KO move. With the exception of his forward smash and potentially his down smash, Roy has few options to quickly KO, and even these two attacks need to connect in close ranges in order for them to have any reasonable KOing power. Further compounding Roy's problems with KOing are his aerials; even when sweetspotted, none of these aerials can reliably KO under 200%, they require good setups in order to properly connect, and none of them can easily inflict damage in the first place. Roy also lacks any quick KO options. While he may have two meteor smashes (the third hit of his upward Double-Edge Dance and his down air) and one spike (tippered up smash), all three are highly situational, requiring particularly lucky or skilled setups in order to properly connect. Coupled with poor offstage options as a result of high-lag aerials that are all of high risk off the edge and a poor recovery, Roy is almost completely dependent on attempting to rack up damage with brief combo strings, culminating in a reliance on wave-smashing and edgeguarding to garner KOs.

Roy also has poor combo ability, in stark contrast with Marth. Roy has slightly below average air speed like Marth, but Roy's sweetspot once again hurts him. Roy cannot move fast enough in the air to hit with the hilt of his blade, causing primarily sourspotted attacks, resulting in low hitstun and hitlag attacks, impairing Roy's combo game. Roy himself, however, is easy to combo; like other fastfalling characters, his high falling speed harms him by making him extremely vulnerable to chain grabs and potentially the space animal slayer combo. Even with fast falling speed, Roy's vertical survivability from the upper blast line is average due to a combination of his lighter weight than characters such as Captain Falcon and much slower falling speed than characters like Falco, despite him being slightly lighter than Roy.

Like Marth, Roy also has a non-stellar recovery, though his faster falling speed and higher gravity only exacerbate it to make it far worse than Marth's and among the worst in the game; adding to this, his high falling speed makes him extremely vulnerable to edgeguarding, as well as being easy to gimp. While Roy's Blazer is slightly more effective than Marth's Dolphin Slash, due to its greater horizontal distance, multi-hit properties that can aggravate edgeguarders, and its ability to be controlled to an extent, it still has high ending lag, leaving him open to punishes as he lands. Additionally, while Roy can still use Double-Edge Dance to recover horizontally, it is not as effective as Marth's Dancing Blade due to his higher falling speed.

Differences from Marth[edit]

Roy is overall a considerably less effective character than Marth. All of his sweetspots are placed at the hilt or center of his blade, making it hard for him to space, and his down aerial's spike is a meteor smash hitbox that is difficult to hit with. Many of his attacks are slightly slower and his KO potential is much worse. Additionally, his wavedash and moonwalk are both shorter than Marth's, resulting in him being less mobile.

However, Roy does have some advantages. His up smash hits multiple times and can spike, making it more reliable than Marth's, and Flare Blade is much stronger than Shield Breaker, being a one-hit KO when fully charged. Additionally, unlike Dolphin Slash, Blazer has multi-hit properties and can OHKO most lightweight fighters, like Mewtwo and Jigglypuff.

However, these advantages are not enough to alleviate his significant weaknesses, and it results in him having far less successful tournament results and a much smaller playerbase in comparison to Marth.

Aesthetics[edit]

  • Notice.png Some of Roy's attacks have the flame effect.
  • Notice.png Roy's idle animation, taunt, and victory animations are different from Marth's.

Attributes[edit]

  • Notice.png Roy is shorter than Marth. This shortens his hurtbox, making him harder to hit, but also slightly reduces the range in his attacks.
  • Notice.png Roy's sweetspot is placed at the hilt of his blade, meaning he fights at close range in order to be most efficient. Roy's sweetspot is larger than Marth's, but Marth can space the tipper sweetspot of his sword for maximum safety and damage.
  • Nerf.png Roy jumps one frame later than Marth (frame 4 → frame 5). Not only does this mean catching opponents by surprise with aerials is slightly harder for Roy, but it also makes his wavedash slightly less useful than that of Marth.
  • Nerf.png Roy's wavedash is shorter than Marth's.
  • Nerf.png Roy's walking speed (1.6 → 1.2) and dash speed (1.8 → 1.61) are much slower than Marth's, and his dash dance window is smaller as a result of his slower dash speed.
  • Nerf.png Roy jumps lower than Marth.
  • Notice.png Roy's falling speed is higher (2.2 → 2.4), causing him to have less vertical knockback than Marth, despite Marth remaining heavier than Roy, and makes his SHFFL faster than Marth's. However, his increased falling speed makes him much easier to combo, worsens his recovery, and is usually unable to go off-stage for edgeguards or gimps, hindering his ability to close out stocks at low percentages.
  • Nerf.png Almost all of Roy's moves have hitboxes that come out slower, remain out for less frames, or stay out for the same period as Marth's but with slower animation speed (leading to unfortunate hitbox timing on moves like his dash attack, three of his aerials and Blazer). All of these moves contain far more lag at the end than Marth's. Roy's sourspot does far less knockback and damage than Marth's, and his sweetspots do somewhere in between the knockback and damage of Marth's sourspot and sweetspot, making his KO potential much worse than Marth's, contrary to popular belief.
  • Notice.png Roy is lighter than Marth (NTSC 87 → 85). It hinders his survivability slightly but makes him less susceptible to waveshine followups from Fox as he is knocked down by the shine.

Ground attacks[edit]

  • Nerf.png Roy's neutral attack does not have a second hit, is incapable of being buffered, and has a slower animation than both hits from Marth, making it worse for edgeguarding characters with linear recoveries, such as Fox or Falco. It also deals less damage (4%/6% → 3%/5%/6%) and the sourspot has much less knockback (20 base/50 growth → 5/60) than the second hit of Marth's.
  • Buff.png Roy's forward tilt has a longer duration than Marth's (4 frames → 5).
  • Nerf.png Roy's forward tilt has more start-up (frame 7 → 9), has more ending lag, and deals less damage (9%/13% → 7%/10%/12%) than Marth's.
  • Nerf.png Roy's up tilt has more start-up (frame 6 → 7), much more ending lag (IASA 32 → 40), a smaller hitbox, deals less damage (8%/9%/12% (early)/9%/10%/13% (clean) → 6%/8%/9%/10%) and has much less base knockback (50/40/30 → 35/20) than Marth's, making it drastically inferior for combos and KOing.
  • Buff.png The sweetspots of Roy's down tilt deals more damage (9%/10% → 10%/12%) and has more base knockback (50/40/25/20 → 90/70) than Marth's.
  • Nerf.png Roy's down tilt has more start-up (frame 7 → 8), and the sourspot deals less damage (8% → 6%) than Marth's.
  • Notice.png Instead of having horizontal knockback, Roy's down tilt has vertical knockback (30° → 80°), which allows it to leads into many combo setups, especially on fast fallers. In exchange, this makes Roy's down tilt much less useful for neutral resets and edge-guards against the rest of the cast than Marth's.
  • Nerf.png The sourspot of Roy's dash attack's deals less damage than Marth's (9%/11% → 6%), and the move's animation is much slower with no change in hitbox timings leading to an infamously terrible hitbox placement.[1]
  • Buff.png Roy's forward smash's sweetspot is much larger than Marth's.
  • Nerf.png Roy's forward smash has more start-up with a shorter duration (frame 10-13 → 12-14), more ending lag (IASA 48 → 54). All its hitboxes also deal less knockback than Marth's, with his sourspot in particular dealing significantly less knockback (60 base/70 growth → 30/65) and his sweetspot having slightly less knockback growth (70 → 65). The sourspot also deals 1% less damage (14% → 13%).
  • Buff.png Roy's up smash has longer duration (4 frames → 10), deals more knockback without sourspots (196 set knockback/30/80 base/100/80 growth → 73 base/90 growth), and deals more damage than Marth's sourspots (8%/15% → 16.56%). It and it can also serve as an unconventional spike if hit with the tip of Roy's sword on the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th hits.
  • Nerf.png Roy's up smash has smaller hitboxes, more start-up (frame 13 → 15), and deals less damage than Marth's tippered up smash (18% → 16.56%). It is also a multi-hit move, giving it the possibility of being SDI'd before connecting with the final hit.
  • Buff.png The front hit of Roy's down smash deals more damage than Marth's (16%/11% → 21%/14%).
  • Nerf.png Roy's down smash comes out one frame slower than Marth's (frame 5 → frame 6), has much more ending lag (IASA 62 → 72), and the second hit comes out slower (frame 20 → 23). The sourspot of the back hit also deals less damage (11% → 8%) and both hits of the move deal drastically less knockback (front hit: 16/20/70 base/72/100 growth → 15/42 base/100/70 growth, back hit: 15/30/70 base/72/100 growth → 15/42 base/68/100 growth) than Marth's.

Aerial attacks[edit]

  • Nerf.png All of Roy's aerials except back aerial and down aerial have more landing lag than Marth's (15 frames → 20 (neutral aerial), 15 frames → 20 (forward aerial), 15 frames → 18 (up aerial)).
  • Nerf.png Roy's neutral aerial has more start-up on both hits and less duration on the second hit (6-7 (hit 1) 15-21 (hit 2) → 7-8 (hit 1) 17-20 (hit 2)) and the move has slightly more ending lag (IASA 49 → 50). The second hit also deals less damage (10% → 8%/6%).
  • Nerf.png Roy's forward aerial has more start-up with a shorter duration (frame 4-7 → 5-7), more ending lag (IASA 30 → 35), deals moderately less damage (13%/10%9% → 8%/5%), and has significantly base knockback (42/30/20 → 30/10) than Marth's.
  • Notice.png Roy's forward aerial consistently sends opponents at a Sakurai angle unlike Marth (67°/361° → 361°).
  • Nerf.png Roy's back aerial has more start-up with a shorter duration (frame 7-11 → 8-10) with no difference in animation, leading to an unfortunate hitbox placement. It also has much more ending lag (IASA 32 → 43), deals moderately less damage (13%/10%/9% → 9%/6%), and the sourspot has much less base knockback (30/25/10 → 10) than Marth's.
  • Buff.png Roy's up aerial has longer duration than Marth's (frame 5-8 → 5-10).
  • Nerf.png Roy's up aerial deals moderately less damage (13%/10%/9% → 9%/6%) and much less base knockback (40/30/20/18 → 20/10) than Marth's.
  • Nerf.png Roy's down aerial is considerably more difficult to sweetspot with (the sweetspot is located around Roy's hand rather than the tip of his sword as with Marth), has more start-up (frame 6 → 7), much more ending lag, deals less damage (13%/10%/9% → 9%/6%), and its sweetspot is meteor smash instead of a spike (NTSC 290° → 270°), meaning it can be meteor-cancelled. All of this makes the move considerably weaker than Marth's despite the sourspots having more base knockback (40/30 → 40).

Grabs and throws[edit]

  • Nerf.png Roy's grab range is shorter than Marth's, but is still one of the farthest reaching grabs in the game.
  • Buff.png All of Roy's throws deal 1% more damage than Marth's (forward/back/up throw: 4% → 5%, down throw: 5% → 6%).
  • Notice.png Roy's forward throw sends opponents at a slightly lower angle (50° → 45°).
  • Notice.png Roy's back throw has less knockback growth than Marth's (60 → 45). This improves its follow-up potential, but hinders its ability to set-up edge-guards at higher percents.
  • Notice.png Roy's up throw sends opponents at a different angle (93° → 97°).
  • Nerf.png Roy's down throw has more knockback growth (50 → 60) and sends opponents at a slightly higher angle than Marth's (135° → 120°), hindering is ability to follow-up and tech-chase.

Special moves[edit]

  • Buff.png Flare Blade is much stronger than Marth's Shield Breaker (30/34/40 base/100 growth → 40/110 (uncharged)/50/83 (fully charged)) and can charge for a longer period. A fully charged Flare Blade also deals drastically more damage than a fully charged Shield Breaker (28% → 50%), resulting in a OHKO on hit.
  • Nerf.png Flare Blade deals 10% recoil damage to Roy when fully charged. An uncharged Flare Blade also deals less damage than an uncharged Shield Breaker (7% → 6%), and the move deals drastically less shield damage (uncharged:30/38 → 1, fully charged: 60 → 30).
  • Notice.png Flare Blade has a flame effect, and near the end of charging it, Roy glows white and the screen shakes violently.
  • Notice.png Double-Edge Dance has sourspots unlike Dancing Blade, however the sourspots range from dealing more or less damage than Dancing Blade's variations depending on the angle. Most of Double-Edge Dance's hits also have different knockback (second (forward): 16 base/100 growth → 20/40 base/60/35 growth, second (upwards): 30/60/70/85 base/40 growth → 50/30, fourth (downward final hit): 20 base/130 growth → 30/110) and angle (first: 85°/96°/80°/76° → 96°/80°/60°/85°, second (forward): 105°/80°/70°/50° → 80°/56°/35°/105°, second (upwards): 90°/85°/70° → 96°, third (upwards): 80° → 280°/270°/60°, third (downward): 270° → 90°/75°/90° (multi-hits)/64° (final hit), fourth (upwards): 80° → 40°) properties compared to Dancing Blade's variations. The third hit upwards of Double-Edge Dance also meteor smashes instead of the third hit downwards like Dancing Blade.
  • Buff.png Double-Edge Dance has normal priority as opposed to transcendent priority unlike Dancing Blade, allowing it to cancel projectiles. The first hit, all angles of the second hit, third hit inputted upwards, and fourth hit inputted upwards of Double-Edge Dance deal more damage than Dancing Blade's variations (first: 4% → 5%/4%, second (all angles): 5% → 6%/4%, third: 6% → 10%/8%, fourth: 10% → 13%/10%), and the fourth hit inputed forward deals much more knockback (15 base/120 growth → 35/135). The first hit also has less base knockback than Dancing Blade's (55 → 50/40), allowing it to connect better with the second hits.
  • Nerf.png Double-Edge Dance's third hit inputted forwards has more base knockback, but less knockback growth (0 base/160 growth → 50/110) than that of Dancing Blade's variation. This makes it overall weaker than Dancing Blade's variation at higher percentages, while also making it more difficult to combo into the fourth hits at lower percentages. The third hit inputted downward also has more start-up (frame 13 → 14), more ending lag, and is a multi-hitting move, making it weaker overall despite the final hit having more base knockback (50 → 70), and meaning it can be SDI'd before it connects with the final hit due to it being a multi-hit. The third hit inputted forward and downwards and the fourth hit inputted forward also deal less damage (third (forward): 10% → 10%/8%, third (downward): 12% → 11.51% (due to how stale-move negation works on multi-hit moves), fourth: 14% → 13%/10%) and the fourth hit inputted upwards has much less base knockback than Dancing Blade's variation (40 → 22). The third hit inputted upward's meteor smash is also overall weaker than Dancing Blade's third hit inputted downward's meteor smash (50 base/100 growth → 80/36 base/60/40 growth).
  • Buff.png Blazer deals slightly more damage (13%/10%/7%/6% → 13.18%), can be angled forwards for better horizontal recovery, and has slightly less landing lag than Dolphin Slash (34 frames → 30). Blazer's first hit also has very strong set knockback (200 set knockback), allowing it to KO floaty characters like Jigglypuff and Peach at 0% on certain stages.
  • Nerf.png Blazer has more start-up (frame 5 → 9), deals drastically less knockback (80/60/20 base/70/90 growth → 0/10 base/100 set knockback/100 growth), and covers less vertical distance. Because the move is multi-hit, it makes it possible to SDI out of the move to reduce its damage potential.
  • Buff.png Roy's Counter does 1.5x the damage of the countered move as opposed to Marth's dealing a flat 7%, making it a powerful KO move when used against strong attacks (such as Falcon Punch, Warlock Punch, or a charged smash attack).
  • Nerf.png Roy's Counter window has more start-up with a much shorter duration than Marth's (frame 5-29 → 8-20). It also deals less knockback with an added sourspot (90 base/35 growth → 30 base/90/70 growth), making it much weaker at low percents if it counters a move that deals 4.6% or less.
  • Notice.png Roy's Counter pose is slightly different. A successful counter uses the flame effect.

Moveset[edit]

For a gallery of Roy's hitboxes, see here.

Roy's aerial attacks
A demonstration of the spike hitbox of Roy's up smash.

All of Roy's attacks are at their strongest when they hit with the center of the Sword of Seals; if an attack hits with both the sourspot and sweetspot hitboxes, then the sweetspot usually takes priority but sometimes sourspots do occur.

  Name Damage Description
Neutral attack   5% (blade), 3% (tip), 6% (body) Identical to Marth's; he slashes in front of himself. However, Roy only slashes once, and at a slower rate than Marth. Additionally, Roy's version is devoid of buffer, meaning the player has to press the attack button one at a time instead of mashing it.
Forward tilt   10% (blade), 7% (tip), 12% (body) A fast upward swipe with the Sword of Seals while leaning forward. Deals more damage if the opponent is closer to Roy. Can KO at high percentages or when the blast line is close by.
Up tilt   Clean: 8% (blade & arm), 6% (tip), 10% (body)
Late: 8% (blade & arm), 6% (tip), 10% (body)
Swings his sword in a large arc above his head. Despite generally covering Roy's hurtboxes, it is less powerful and has less combo potential than Marth's.
Down tilt   10% (blade), 6% (tip), 12% (body) A sword poke to the ground. Has longer hitstun than most of Roy's other attacks, and also sends opponents upward, making it a good combo starter overall. Its range and speed makes it a very favorable move to use in the neutral game and spacing, as well as edgeguarding.
Dash attack   12% (blade), 6% (tip) A quick upward sweeping diagonal slash. Like Marth's, can either send opponents in front of him, behind him, or above him. Because this move has a slower animation overall than Marth's but the hitboxes are active for the same frames, the move starts before he even swings the sword and ends before it reaches halfway through his swing in front of him.
Forward smash   20% (blade), 12% (tip) Rotates body counter-clockwise with a strong arc-like swing from his head to the ground, similar to the animation of his neutral special. It is rather fast, and is Roy's primary KO move.
Up smash Flame Sword 2% (hits 1-4), 10% (hit 5) A relatively quick sword thrust upwards with fire effects. Can act as an unorthodox spike if the enemy is hit on the sword's tip during the start of the attack, though this is highly situational. This attack is a multi-hit attack and the last hit has decent vertical knockback, if enemy is hit at the base. All hits can approximately deal up to 16.56% damage due to stale move negation.
Down smash   21%/14% (front), 16%/8% (back) Sweeps his sword on the ground towards the front, then towards the back. A decent finisher, useful for vertical KOs, though there is rather high ending lag. Deals less damage if the opponent hits the tip of Roy's sword.
Neutral aerial   4% (hit 1), 8% (hit 2 base), 5% (hit 2 tip) Two swipes around him via an inward slash then a full outward spin, with decent knockback and damage if sweetspotted.
Forward aerial   8% (base), 5% (tip) Swipes sword in front of him with surprising range and tends to be a primary combo tool due to its speed and recovery.
Back aerial   9% (base), 6% (tip) Turns around and swipes inward with his sword, similar to his forward aerial in terms of usage and knockback. Like Marth's back aerial, this move turns Roy around.
Up aerial   9% (base), 6% (tip) Swipes above outward while doing a delayed backflip. Meant to be a juggle tool, but is often subpar due to its low early knockback.
Down aerial   9% (base), 6% (tip) Swipes below via an outward wide slash. Meteor smashes opponents who come in contact with Roy's body, but is rather weak and has nearly unrecoverable ending lag. The move's sweetspot is extremely tiny; which is located at Roy's right arm and left shoulder (meaning that Roy has to overlap the opponent significantly), making it more difficult to hit with than Jigglypuff's Rest.
Grab   Roy grabs his opponent with his free hand. Due to Roy being shorter than Marth, his grab range is slightly shorter, making it the 5th longest grab range overall and the second longest non-tether grab.
Pummel   3% Knees the opponent.
Forward throw   5% Grabs and pushes forward, tripping them with his leg.
Back throw   5% Pulls the opponent behind him and extends his leg simultaneously.
Up throw   5% Thrusts opponent upwards. Can chain grab fast-fallers at lower percentages. It is the second strongest up throw in the game.
Down throw   6% Tosses the foe to the ground. Has chain grab potential.
Floor attack (front)   6% Sweeps his sword on the ground, front to back.
Floor attack (back)   6% A quick stab to the left followed by a horizontal slash to the right.
Edge attack (fast)   8% (sword), 6% (hilt) Flips onto ledge with a quick downward diagonal slash downwards. Hitbox only exists on Roy's right arm arm and his sword, meaning that foes close to the ledge Roy is hanging on can avoid the attack.
Edge attack (slow)   8% (sword), 6% (hilt) Slowly gets up and performs a quick horizontal slice upwards. Just like his quick edge attack, opponents can avoid the attack if they are close to the ledge Roy is currently hanging on.
Neutral special Flare Blade 6-41%, 50% (fully charged) Roy holds the Sword of Seals over his head before doing a powerful overhead slash in a similar fashion to his forward smash. When the move is fully charged, Roy slams his sword on the ground, creating a large explosion that can one-hit KO any character in the game, but he takes 10% recoil damage as a side effect. This attack has transcendent priority.
Side special Double-Edge Dance Varies A sequence of sword maneuvers with several variations based on the direction the control stick is held. All variations have transcendent priority.
Up special Blazer 5%/3% (hit 1), 2%/1% (hits 2-4), 1% (hits 5-7) Roy soars upwards with his sword, engulfed in flames. This move can be aimed by quickly pushing the control stick in a direction after the initial jump. It deals more hits on heavier characters such as Bowser. Can deal approximately up to 13.19% damage if all hits connect and not tippered. The first hit of this move deals great base knockback and is capable of sending floaty foes off the top on certain stages if this is the only hit that connects. (Capable of KOing Jigglypuff at 0% on Final Destination). This is most easily done with a reverse Blazer.
Down special Counter 1.5x the damage of the countered move (min 1%) Twirls his sword into reverse grip and holds it over his his left forearm, while bending down and performs a defensive stance. He will block incoming attacks by immediately raising his sword up in reverse grip and slash in a downwards arc. Damage and knockback dealt depends on the strength of the move that is countered.
Double-Edge Dance
Hit Damage Description
First Hit (Neutral) 5% (base), 4% (tip) Does a vertical slash, has little knockback: incapable of KOing.
Second Hit (Up) 6% (base), 4% (tip) Does an upwards slash.
Second Hit (Neutral) 6% (base), 4% (tip) Does a stab, has a little more knockback then the first slash, but still not much.
Third Hit (Up) Clean: 10% (base), 8% (tip)
Late: 7% (base), 5% (tip)
Does a downwards vertical slash. Can meteor smash at the beginning of the move.
Third Hit (Neutral) 10% (base), 8% (tip) Does a fairly powerful horizontal slash.
Third Hit (Down) 3% (hits 1-3), 5% (hit 4) Stabs his sword at the ground, dealing multiple flame damage.
Fourth Hit (Up) 13% (base), 10% (tip) Does a jumping slash. Deals flame damage.
Fourth Hit (Neutral) 13% (base), 10% (tip) Does a powerful vertical slash. Deals flame damage.
Fourth Hit (Down) 3% (hit 1-4), 5% (hit 5) Does a flurry of lower stabs, each stab dealing flame damage.

Taunt[edit]

  • Leans back and holds his sword behind him in an attack position, shouting "Heee-ya!"
Roy-Taunt-SSBM.gif

Idle pose[edit]

  • Gets in a ready pose.
Roy Idle Pose Melee.gif

Crowd cheer[edit]

English Japanese
Cheer
Roy Cheer NTSC Melee.ogg
Roy Cheer JP Melee.ogg
Description Roy's-Our-Boy! Roy! Roy! Roy!
Pitch Group chant Male

Victory poses[edit]

A rendition of a portion of the main theme of the Fire Emblem series.
  • Swipes his sword once over his shoulder, then swipes it down and behind him while facing left, saying "守るべきもののために、負けられない!", which translates to: "For those whom I must protect, I cannot lose!".
  • Spins the Sword of Seals one and a half times and then thrusts it into the ground in front of him, looking to slightly to the left, and says either of the following lines: "苦しい戦いだった。", which translates to: "It was a painful fight", or "僕 は 負けない。", which translates to: "I won't lose".
  • Flourishes his sword and poses with it by his side, saying "真の戦いは、これからだ。", which translates to: "The true battle, is soon to begin".
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In competitive play[edit]

Matchups[edit]

Super Smash Bros. Melee Character Matchups
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Roy has a below-average matchup spread. According to the matchup chart, he has the 21st weighted total (tied with Yoshi). He counters only Pichu, soft counters two characters, and has two even matchups. On the disadvantageous side, he is soft countered by four characters (including a losing matchup to Kirby, despite Kirby being at the very bottom), countered by twelve characters, and is hard countered by four. His poor comboing ability, underwhelming recovery, and high vulnerability to combos have resulted in him struggling against most of the cast, with his matchups against those who can exploit the latter two problems (like Sheik and Jigglypuff) being especially detrimental. The need to get up close in order to hit with his blade's sweetspot has also been cited as a major problem in and of itself, as he cannot strike from afar without losing a heavy load of power in his attacks; such a detrimental property gives him trouble against characters with more favorable hitbox placements (like Marth and Falco). Some modern players have shown that his punish game against Fox and Falco is very similar to Marth's, implying that Roy's matchup against them is not as bad as the spread indicates. However, such punishes are very stage-dependent, and can only come about after Roy has the advantage in the neutral game, something that is more difficult to consistently perform as Roy than Marth at top-level play due to his inferior approaches and lack of safety in his moves.

Notable players[edit]

See also: Category:Roy professionals (SSBM)

Active[edit]

Inactive[edit]

Tier placement and history[edit]

On the current tier list, Roy ranks 20th, in the F tier. Roy as a competitive character has been ranked very low on most revisions of the tier list, with his highest rank being fifteenth on two separate occasions. Despite boasting some decent attacks and a great SHFFL, Roy has ranked low primarily because of his risky, unsafe approach, stemming from the poor sweetspot placement of his sword; Roy's physics had also harmed his tier placing, as his high falling speed makes him easy to combo, creating poor synergy with his risky approach that favors close-ranged fighting, and it also causes his recovery to become considerably worse than most other characters. Roy's metagame also did not boast the potential creativity of other characters, especially Marth, owing to his over-reliance on his very few KO moves; a lack of dedicated Roy mains have also prevented his metagame from potentially evolving, and most of Roy's previous mains have either become inactive in the tournament scene or have dropped him for a chance to use other higher tier characters. Roy himself does not place well in tournaments, even in low tier tournaments, and arguably Roy's only notable representation ever has been NEO, because of his top 8 placings. His only arguable results in the current Melee metagame have been via Mew2King and PewPewU, who occasionally use him in games against lower-leveled players or in smaller-scale tournaments as a weaker substitute for their usual Marth.

The "Tier Wars" and comparison to Marth[edit]

Marth and Roy's differences became the center of controversy and discussion on GameFAQs' tier list debates, specifically in 2003 and 2004, when the competitive scene was picking up. Marth players who generally supported the tier list claimed Marth had overall better attributes, in terms of speed, weight, and recovery capabilities. They also cited tournament results as proof for his superiority, with a multitude of professional Marth users such as Ken placing extremely high in major tournaments, while Roy lacked any such representation to back up the anti-tiers' arguments. Roy players who generally opposed the tier list, however, claimed that Roy's different attributes, such as his larger sweetspot in the center of his blade and general "superiority" in power, were enough to allow him to be as efficient of a character as Marth was; they also argued that professionals needed to learn how to use Roy as a different character from Marth in an attempt to disprove the tournament results.

Owing to the fact that these debates took place before extensive testing of Melee's engine, the debates were plagued by numerous inaccuracies that have since been disproven. The point about Marth's extra weight, for instance, is now considered moot; his extra weight is decidedly negligible, and can even be interpreted as a disadvantage, considering his extra weight makes him susceptible to Fox's shine combos, while Roy's lighter weight makes him immune to such combos. More importantly, pro-tiers made a common assumption that Marth is faster than Roy. While Marth indeed has a faster dashing speed, this claim is questionable, considering that Roy's SHFFL is faster than Marth's due to his falling speed and lower short hop. Similarly, some points brought up about Roy's viability are also now considered inaccurate. For instance, Roy's "superiority" in power has been disproven, as many of Marth's attacks, tippered and non-tippered, deal more knockback and damage than Roy's respective centered and non-sweetspotted strikes. The sweetspot in the hilt of the blade is now considered a disadvantage and one of the main reasons for Roy's poor tier placement; while Marth can attack from afar and still deal respectable damage, Roy cannot do so, lest his attacks hit with extremely low knockback; Roy's sourspot on the entire length of his Sword of Seals, besides the hilt, is also much weaker than Marth's sourspot on the hilt of the Falchion.

Overall, the primary reason for Roy's named inferiority is precisely the one that anti-tiers attempted to refute: Roy has too much trouble trying to KO his opponents. Marth has far more creative and flexible ways to string together moves, deal damage, KO, and edgeguard (especially due to his down aerial spike). Roy, however, lacks the same flexibility in his comboing and KOing games, and is instead heavily reliant on predictable and repetitive chaingrab and down tilt setups, with almost all of his viable combos ending in a forward smash. Roy's edgeguarding game is also considerably worse than Marth's; while Roy's down tilt is more useful for combos, it is not at all useful for intercepting the majority of recoveries (unlike Marth's). Additionally, Roy has a notoriously poor off-stage game due to his falling speed and ineffective aerials, which hinders his ability to perform gimps without self-destructing. The current metagame for Melee reflects these differences and conclusions: Marth ranks in the S tier at 3rd place and features numerous dedicated mains, while Roy ranks in the F tier at 20th, and has very few dedicated mains of his own.

Perhaps in spite of his inferiority to Marth, Roy still has a notably large fanbase in the Melee community, partially stemming from his notable roles in some machinima. In an unofficial poll held by NinBuzz, Roy was voted the fifth favorite Melee fighter among viewers, gaining 9% of the total vote.

In single-player modes[edit]

In Classic Mode[edit]

Roy's unused intro image.

Unusually, Roy does not appear at all in the Classic Mode when unlocked, neither as an ally, nor as an opponent, making him the only fighter who never appears at all; the reason for this is unknown. Despite this, Roy does have an introduction image for the "Now Loading..." screen between matches programmed into the disc.

In Adventure Mode[edit]

The Adventure Mode makes no concessions to Roy when he is unlocked. Like Marth, however, music associated with him can play in the Underground Maze stage.

In All-Star Mode[edit]

In All-Star Mode, Roy and his allies are fought on Final Destination, as Roy was not designated an official home stage. Final Destination has the unusual property of playing the Fire Emblem music track when accessed this way.

In Event Matches[edit]

Roy appears in two Event Matches:

  • Event 46: Fire Emblem Pride: The player battles and must defeat a team of Marth and Roy in an untimed match on Temple, with all three characters receiving 3 stock.
  • Event 49: All-Star Match Deluxe: Roy is the fifth opponent fought in this series of staged battles. The selected character battles him on Temple with a stock of 2 while Roy has 1. With a timer of four minutes, the player must defeat him and the other five characters one-by-one with the overall time and damage: Dr. Mario, Falco, Pichu, Young Link and Ganondorf.

Ending images[edit]

Japanese Translations[edit]

Roy speaks Japanese when in the results screen, or using Counter, like fellow Fire Emblem character Marth.

Roy's four victory lines are:

  • "苦しい戦いだった。", which translates to "It was a difficult fight."
  • "僕 は 負けない。", which translates to "I won't lose!"
  • "真の戦いは、これからだ。", which translates to "The true fight is yet to come."
  • "守るべきもののために、負けられない!", which translates to "For those whom I must protect, I will not lose!".

When using Counter, he either says:

  • "今だ!", which translates to "Now!"
  • "そこ!", which translates to "There!"

Trophy Descriptions[edit]

In addition to the normal trophy about Roy as a character, there are two trophies about him as a fighter, unlocked by completing the Adventure and All-Star modes respectively with Roy on any difficulty:

(Smash Red)
While Roy's moves are well balanced, he's a little on the slow side, and doesn't excel at midair combat. His blade, the Sword of Seals, gives him excellent reach, and makes his Double-Edge Dance slightly different than Marth's Dancing Blade. When it's fully charged, Roy's destructive Flare Blade delivers an instant KO.
  • B: Flare Blade
  • Smash B: Double-Edge Dance
(Smash Blue)
Roy's blade is different than Marth's; he does the most damage hitting with the center of his sword. So, a fearless advance into the arms of his foe is Roy's best bet. Blazer is a bit slower than Marth's Dolphin Slash, but it's still a mighty attack that sets anyone it strikes aflame. Roy's attack after using Counter differs slightly from Marth's.
  • Up & B: Blazer
  • Down & B: Counter

Alternate costumes[edit]

Roy's alternate costumes in Melee

Trivia[edit]

Closeup of Roy's sword, showing the text "©HAL LABRATORY.INC"
  • Roy does not feature a sheath during gameplay and his "Challenger Approaching" screen like Marth does; this is considered unusual, as Roy has a sheath in his victory poses, official art, character select portrait and all three of his trophies, as well as his unused Classic Mode introduction.
  • Roy and Marth are the only two characters in Melee that speak Japanese even in the international release.
  • Roy and Marth are the only playable characters in Melee that do not have a stage representing their universe, though hacked data shows that one was indeed planned.
  • Roy with his Flare Blade, Mr. Game & Watch with his Judge, and Pichu with most of its electric attacks are the only characters in Melee to have attacks that directly inflict recoil damage. Kirby can also harm himself if he copies either Roy or Pichu.
  • Along with Marth, Roy was originally going to be a character exclusive to the Japanese version of Super Smash Bros. Melee, but was kept in all versions on request of an employee at Nintendo of America. Because of their inclusion, Western players took an interest in the Fire Emblem franchise, which sold in countries where the games in the series had not been released.
  • Roy, Marth, and Peach are the only characters in Melee with a special move that can counter.
  • Roy's appearance in Melee was the first time he appeared in any game, as his game was released after Melee.
    • This technically makes Roy the first ever playable Nintendo character to debut through the Super Smash Bros. series.
  • Close examination of textures for the Sword of Seals shows that the text "©HAL LABRATORY.INC" was included in the file. It is not known why the signature is there.
  • All of Roy's sourspotted attacks make a punch/kick sound effect instead of a slashing sound effect.
  • Ironically, Roy's sword trails indicate that the sweetspot is at the tip of the sword.